[butternut_squash_bisque]

The author makes it pretty obvious where this article is going, in her opening line: "As the West enters the twilight hours of its civilization..."

[butternut_squash_bisque]

PING!

[CPOSharky]

"As the West enters the twilight hours of its civilization..."

Must have gone to a liberal journalism school. He writes what he wishes was true.

"Meanwhile the islamofacists struggle to move foward into the 15th century..."

[.cnI redruM]

She regard her culture in any manner she chooses. She's suffering from what a Marxist crank would call false consciousness. In the real world, where rational people size up different societies and cultures and then choose with their feet which one is better, the bulk of the traffic crosses the Rio Grande going North; not South.

Any value-system, or culture that lacks one, that gets hold of a big enough A-Bomb can threaten anyone they want. The real $60,000.00 question, is which culture can actually rebuild something once the Strontium has worked through three or four half-lives and is no longer radioactive enough to still pose a threat.

[Leo Carpathian]

America, of course, is the most glaring example of this Western malaise as manifested by its refusal to abide by international pacts and agreements or by its savage assaults on Afghanistan and Iraq.

Hey Shiiiites! I didn't know that World Trade Center buildings were in Afghanistan and Iraq!!!
Yeaaaaarghhh! Lets get back to culture times, cutting heads off, blowing innocent in the name of ..... Time to level the landscape of 21 ccccenturie!

[siunevada]

I glanced at an article on the Top Ten Inventions of the Islamic World the other day.

They are a little short on accomplishments in the last 800 years. Perhaps they have gone beyond twilight.

[Leo Carpathian]

Real deeeeep shiiiite tinkin'!

[elfman2]

"Can a Value System Supposedly Primitive Pose a Threat to West? "

No, not by itself.

Our value system which includes the value to self defense is far superior. It’s only the self doubt that grows from our value of freedom of thought and speech in the form of moral equivalence that poses a threat. That, plus the complacency that comes with all our success, is a threat to us by misleading us to compromise or supirior values, such as our value of self defense.

The rest of the article is wishful nonsense.

[Brilliant]

It's not the value system that is the problem. It is the cold blooded murder that these Islamofacists mete out.

[Jmouse007]

Can a Value System "Supposedly Primitive"

The title says it all Islam is: "supposedly primitive"

Ah yes; 7th century thought, lifestyle and living conditions; living in caves and treating women and everyone who does not follow Islam, Moham mad or your way of life like dirt, ...or worse, is so "modern," so "22nd century!"

Who knew?

[Publius6961]

Can a Value System Supposedly Primitive Pose a Threat to West?

YES!

But only if...
They have been given, by the west, unlimited wealth with which to "buy" brains.
They continue to go to the west to learn the tools of civilization.
If they employ the technical wonders of the west.
(As an honest muzzie once said, "we can use cell phones made in the west, but utterly unable to make even the tiniest screw in them"...

Otherwise, no. If all of them stayed home, the rest of the world would be a better place, and there would be no threat whatsoever.

[GeorgefromGeorgia]

This BS is not supported by any historical or factual data:

"Though we are witnessing the end of a world system which has dominated this planet for over two centuries one should expect a bitter resistance from the West to their slow but inevitable decline. As human beings most of us have difficulty accepting our mortality and many of us never do even to the last minute. The West can’t for the moment come to grips with the fact that they occupy this planet with other individuals who have a different set of values which are as true as theirs. Muslims are not the only ones who feel the intrusive and high-handed behavior of the West. We see examples of this kind of attitude all around the world from Latin America to Africa and Asia."

In fact most of the world has either adopted western civilization (Latin America, Sub-Saharan Africa) or their culture has changed by adopting much of the culture (East Asia and India). The Muslim world has been influenced by western civilization, particularly North African countries, Turkey, Iran, Pakistan and Indonesia, but the Muslim world probably resisted western culture more due to the Muslim religion.

The only reason some of the Arab states that have been left behind by the rest of the world are prospering is the presence of large amounts of crude oil. Once that oil dries up, just watch for the decline in those countries.

The only area that the West appears to be declining is its population. Europe in particular is in decline because of the population growth of Muslim immigrants and lack of replacement of native Europeans. That, I must admit is a threat to the continuation of Western Civilization.

However, Japan, India, China, Brazil, Australia, Canada, and in particular the USA will remain powerful economic, political and military forces in the future. They will dwarf any of the Muslim countries.

As for the Jews being more European than Middle Eastern. I disagree with this premise. It is true that most of Israel is populated by Jews that came from Europe. However, Jews have maintained their own subculture over the centuries. further Jews have positively influenced western civilization as well.

Another factor ignored by this article is the importance of Christianity. Latin America and Sub-saharan Africa are largely Christian, and that reinforces western culture. East and South Asian religions are tolerable to Christians than Muslims.

In summary, the only truthful aspect of this article is that Europeans are declining in population.

[Publius6961]

Why the "Barf Alert"?

This article is so egregiously off-the-wall that only another sandmaggot could see it as rational...

[Old Sarge]

BSB, this is NOT directed to you. You're just the messenger...

let us not forget the horror film the world has been forced to watch of torture and abuse of the so-called terrorists in American gulags spread across the planet.

As opposed to the snuff flicks the jihadis play on the Internet as recruiting drives during the hadj. How about watching prisoners getting their throats sawn open and pleading with their killers, begging them not to die?

If Muslims want to live by their own value system where is the threat in that to the West?

When you behead those who oppose you, and tax the survivors into squalor, like your Socialist brothers, you think we're going to submit, with our asses in the air, like you?

All the rest have lost bitterly. The Palestinians their lands, the Arabs their youth and wealth spent on never-ending wars for the past 50 years.

So, accept the fact you're losers, and submit.

Meanwhile, the rest of the Jews in the world are either held for ransom by Israel and forced to support it blindly through money and effort or held accountable by others for Israel’s criminal behavior.

Just as the rest of the Muslims are held hostage by international Jihad, but instead, they willingly support it through money and efforts - and you can't ever be held accountable due to PC and your Socialist brothers being in charge of two-thirds of the planet.

[elli1]

Can a Value System Supposedly Primitive Pose a Threat to West?

Not if it's armed with only sticks & stones.

[Clioman]

"One sees and hears an irrational logic in the West today where for some reason it thinks that Islam will overwhelm it and wipe out its own civilization, yet simultaneously it regards it as primitive."

What's irrational about taking the Islamists' openly stated intentions at face value? And given their preference for beheading opponents, oppressing women, and blowing up 'blasphemous' works of art, how can we NOT see them as primitives?

[conservativeharleyguy]

"In the days of the Cold War the Soviet Union and America could always agree on one thing and that was the necessity of the continued existence of the Israeli entity..."

WTF!!!
Given that the KGB spent pretty much the entire period of the "Cold War" arming, training, and indoctrinating every conceivable enemy of Israel, that's bulls**t!. The Russians did everything they could for 40 years to destroy Israel.

Remember the 6 Day War? Where did Egypt get all of those tanks, howitzers, AT-7's (our first real glimpse of an effective man-packable tank killer), and SAM's? From Russia.

Where did Arafat get his weapons, including CEMTEX manufactured in Czechoslovakia? From Russia.

Where did Hamas get their AK's? From Russia.

Where did Libya get their tanks, and SAM's? From Russia.

Where did Hezbollah get their RPG's? From Russia.

Sure the Chinese had some influence, and Egypt, Iraq, and others eventually developed their own versions of the above weapons, but they were all taught how to build them by Soviets, and they were all taught how to use them by the Soviets (even to the extent that when they fought conventional battles, they used Soviet doctrine).

The Soviets NEVER met an antisemitic terrorist that they didn't like and support.

The rest of her article is equally incorrect and inflammatory bulls**t.

[B.O. Plenty]

Enemy of islam bump

[wildcatf4f3]

The man who wrote this is my blood enemy.

[The Electrician]

One sees and hears an irrational logic in the West today where for some reason it thinks that Islam will overwhelm it and wipe out its own civilization, yet simultaneously it regards it as primitive.

Here's an allegorical tale that even the author can understand. Imagine a bucket of pure, clean, civilized water. Now, add some primitive camel dung to it. Is it irrational to think that the formerly civilized water should be concerned over the threat from the primitive camel dung?

(I will freely admit that there may be some cultural bias inherent in that tale that will make the point of the story all but unintelligible to the author - for all that I know, camel dung may be revered and worshipped in the author's society - after all, weren't we told that combining a statue of the Virgin Mary with elephant dung was actually a very high honor because of the cultural significance of elephant dung in parts of Africa? This multiculturism thing is a pain in the butt, isn't it? Oops, maybe the author regards a pain in the butt as a thing of rare beauty, never mind...)

[VOA]

Can a Value System Supposedly Primitive Pose a Threat to West?

Yep. Seeing how that primitive value system has no problem hijacking
the technology of The Great Satan.
And plenty of fellow-travelers and useful idiots amongst the
population of world of The Great Satan.