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Drop Out of the [Electoral] College ("Please, PLEASE Let NY and CA Rule Everyone Else!" Times Begs)
New York Times ^ | 03/14/2006 | Staff

Posted on 03/14/2006 1:14:21 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

The Electoral College is an antidemocratic relic. Everyone who remembers 2000 knows that it can lead to the election of the candidate who loses the popular vote as president. But the Electoral College's other serious flaws are perhaps even more debilitating for a democracy. It focuses presidential elections on just a handful of battleground states, and pushes the rest of the nation's voters to the sidelines.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
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1 posted on 03/14/2006 1:14:25 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Don't Jefferson, Madison, Adams, Monroe, Washington, Franklin et al just seem more brilliant as the centuries go by???


2 posted on 03/14/2006 1:17:46 AM PST by PittsburghAfterDark
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Leave the Constitution alone. I do not trust any modern politician as far as I can throw pianos. It is not broken. In retrospect I am so very grateful that the election of 2000 went as it did.


3 posted on 03/14/2006 1:18:29 AM PST by carumba (The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Well, but then why wouldn't CA and/or NY dwellers legally move to those battleground states in time for the next election? Red-staters from the safe red states could consider the same maneuver


4 posted on 03/14/2006 1:19:45 AM PST by GSlob
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Hellary: Tell your minions it won't work.


5 posted on 03/14/2006 1:20:17 AM PST by Dahoser (Time to condense the spending nonsense: Terry Tate for OMB head.)
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To: carumba

This so 2000'ish.... Get over it, you're a loser NYT.


6 posted on 03/14/2006 1:20:19 AM PST by Quick Shot
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To: carumba

If the electoral college hadn't existed in 2000 then the campaign would've been totally different, and there's no way to guess who would've won.


7 posted on 03/14/2006 1:21:03 AM PST by AntiGuv
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To: PittsburghAfterDark
Don't Jefferson, Madison, Adams, Monroe, Washington, Franklin et al just seem more brilliant as the centuries go by???

Yep.
And doesn't the scumbag Democrat New York Times seem more desperate and irrational as the days go by???

8 posted on 03/14/2006 1:26:10 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I think California and New York, obviously enlightened and advanced states, should take the initiative, unilaterally, and award their electoral votes proportionately to the popular vote in their respective states.

That'll show that anachronistic electoral college!


9 posted on 03/14/2006 1:27:09 AM PST by RWR8189 (George Allen for President)
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To: AntiGuv
If the electoral college hadn't existed in 2000 then the campaign would've been totally different, and there's no way to guess who would've won.

"Uhhh.... Oh yeah. Never thought about that. Hmmm...." - The New York Times

10 posted on 03/14/2006 1:28:46 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: RWR8189

I vote for changing it to one state, one vote. That will get them.


11 posted on 03/14/2006 1:29:05 AM PST by Quick Shot
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Note to the times: We're not a freakin' democracy.


12 posted on 03/14/2006 1:33:00 AM PST by kenth (Mi alce tiene gusto del queso.)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark
Don't Jefferson, Madison, Adams, Monroe, Washington, Franklin et al just seem more brilliant as the centuries go by???

It's hardly a fair comparison when one only has idiot democrats to compare them to.

How about this for a plan...the "blue" states can release their electoral votes in direct proportion to the vote. Of course that way a dem would never be elected to a national post...which sounds pretty good to me since they can't seem to locate any candidates who aren't idiots, insane or both.

13 posted on 03/14/2006 1:33:57 AM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

"Everyone who remembers 2000 knows that it can lead to the election of the candidate who loses the popular vote as president."

The NYTs is so stupid. Everyone with a brain knows that if the popular vote determined the winner, both candidates would have had different campaign strategies in 2000.




14 posted on 03/14/2006 1:36:39 AM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; All
The Electoral College is an antidemocratic relic.

"Democracy?"

Two wolves, one sheep, vote for dinner...

15 posted on 03/14/2006 1:39:02 AM PST by backhoe (-30-)
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To: backhoe

Know what else is undemocratic? The US Senate (one State, two votes). Not to mention rule by the judiciary.
If the EC were abolished, everyone would campaign differently and the result might stil be the same. But it is just stupid for the NYT to call for changing the rules AFTER the game is over as a previous poster pointed out.


16 posted on 03/14/2006 1:42:36 AM PST by Viet Vet in Augusta GA
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Government by California and New York? Why take half-measures! Let's just appoint Pinch Sulzburger King of the United States, and return the nation to the sort of hereditary monarchy that governed before the Revolution. There's no doubt he feels he's more suited to the job than George III ever was, and loathes anyone who doesn't share his views.


17 posted on 03/14/2006 1:44:45 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: carumba

One change is badly needed; REPEAL THE SEVENTEENTH AMENDMENT.


18 posted on 03/14/2006 1:56:01 AM PST by SUSSA
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To: RWR8189

Absolutely.

Lead by example or shut the pie-hole, New York!

Ditto for California.

In both states conservative majorities outside the urban areas are routinely disenfranchised by the very winner-take-all system that the Times is complaining about.

People should clean up their own yards before complaining about their neighbors'.


19 posted on 03/14/2006 2:02:33 AM PST by John Valentine
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
I'll happy discuss dismantling and destroying the constitution over their dead, mangled corpses. Shall we have tea ready?
20 posted on 03/14/2006 2:12:20 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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