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Europe's Islamist future is now
.amnation.com ^ | Friday, July 1, 2005 | Alex Alexiev

Posted on 03/11/2006 6:16:43 PM PST by strategofr

The resounding rejection of the EU constitutional project in France and the Netherlands has triggered much frenzied hand-wringing and anxious bickering about the future of Europe, though it appears to tells us more about the pervasive angst of the continent’s elites than about its future.

Completely unnoticed in this noisy brouhaha is a survey in France that tells us more about what Europe’s future will look like than the collective wisdom of its chattering classes. Innocuously entitled “Signs and Manifestations of Religious Affiliation in the Educational Establishments” and headed by the inspector general of French education Jean-Pierre Obin, the study was actually finished last year but remained unpublished until leaked on the Internet a few weeks ago.

It is easy to understand why the French government was unwilling to publish it. For the survey is a devastating indictment and an anxious wake-up call at the same time.

The result of an extensive research and five months of field interviews in numerous schools in 20 French provinces by a distinguished group of educators, the Obin report documents the extensive Islamization of French schools in the vicinity of Moslem ghettoes and the imposition of strict conformity with Islamist dictates through violence and intimidation.

Having by and large completed their takeover of the Moslem ghettoes, often by “targeted violence” against non-Moslems and moderate Moslems alike, the Islamist fanatics are making great progress towards achieving control of the educational system as well.

As usual, girls are the first victims of religious extremism. The “big brothers,” as the Islamists are known in school, enforce a strict Islamic dress code which prohibits make-up, dresses and skirts, forbid any co-educational activities and make going to the movies, the swimming pool or the gym all but impossible for Moslem girls.

The punishment for refusal to conform is often physical violence and beatings. And this, says the report, is a relatively protected environment compared to “what girls experience outside of school.” Such as forced marriages at 14 or 15.

No less disturbing is the picture Obin paints of the spread of the kind of religious obscurantism that one associates with Wahhabi zealots, but would find difficult to envisage in a public school in the heart of Western Europe.

Moslem students often refuse to study Voltaire or read Madame Bovary, acknowledge even the existence of other religions, or sing, dance, draw faces or right angles because they resemble the cross. English, on the other hand, is hated as the “language of imperialism.”

Increasingly, the radical Islamists are able to secure special, often preferential, treatment for Moslem students making a mockery of French secular traditions. In some schools, Moslems already have the right to eat at separate tables, have their own toilets off limits to the infidels, be served only halal (Islam’s kosher) food and practice mass absenteeism during Moslem holidays.

In addition to the routine expression of violent anti-Semitic sentiments, schools have also become a major focus of aggressive proselytism. The report states that it is virtually impossible for non-practicing Moslem kids in school not to conform to the strict Islamist behavior prescriptions. Even non-Moslems are often forced to take part in Ramadan fasting, against the wishes of their parents.

Perhaps most troubling is the study’s finding that this new generation of Moslem children, born and raised in Europe, is growing up already indoctrinated to consider themselves part of a “Moslem nation” separate and opposed to everything Western civilization stands for.

Whether it is their obscurantist worldview, their anti-democratic and violent tendencies or wide-spread admiration for Osama Bin Laden and assorted terrorists, this is a generation that is clearly on a collision course with democratic society.

Faced with this wholesale assault on basic democratic values and secularism, the educational establishment appears powerless and immobilized. It admits that Jewish kids can no longer be schooled without being subject to constant racist and anti-Semitic harassment and cannot protect the freedom of spiritual choice of minor children, but does not know what to do. Instead, it engages in self-censorship and tolerates and appeases violent intolerance.

And this is not just France’s problem. The same phenomenon of large numbers of angry young Moslems who totally reject European civilization is easily observable in virtually every large urban center across the EU.

Moreover, the future is on their side. With fertility rates twice those of the native Europeans and large-scale legal and illegal immigration, Europe’s Moslem population is growing by leaps and bounds. Though only 4 to 5% of the general population, Moslems already make up 25% to 30% of the under 18 cohort in large cities.

On present demographic trajectory, they will become a majority of that cohort in the metropolitan areas where they are concentrated in 30 years or less. If they were to resemble the students described in the Obin Report at all, it would be difficult to imagine Europe remaining secular and democratic for long.

Alex Alexiev is vice president for research at the Center for Security Policy in Washington, D.C. He can be reached at alexiev@centerforsecuritypolicy.org.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: eurabia; france; frenchmuslims; indoctrination; muslims; schools
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To: strategofr

One could always argue that outlawing a religion is NOT the same as establishing one. If the law is: you can be anything you want -- christian, jewish, buddhist, hindu, wiccan or even atheist -- but you can't be a Muslim, then it is hard to see how that constitutes an estabishment of religion.


21 posted on 03/11/2006 7:35:48 PM PST by Maceman (Fake but accurate -- and now double-sourced)
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To: patriotUSA
"the non-islamic people will respond."

What possible response could they make? They can't talk the mohammedans out of their goals. And they certainly don't have the will to make any physical response.

22 posted on 03/11/2006 9:32:59 PM PST by isrul
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To: El Cid
All we have to do is win the hearts and minds of the "moderate moslems" and all will be well. That's what I heard.
23 posted on 03/11/2006 9:38:59 PM PST by isrul
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To: strategofr
I'm not a lawyer, however I believe a strong distinction can be made that islam is 'unique' amongst 'religions' (again, I submit that islam is not a religion, but I'll use that word in this context) in that its foundational writings encourage its adherents to kill those that aren't in its club. No other religion (as far as I know) calls out for killing non-believers. Thus I believe the case can be made that islam is not a religion but a dangerous mental disorder/philosophy.

Probably the nearest analogy is the Thuggee cult of ancient India -- and the Brits eventually stamped that out.
From Wikipedia:

Thuggee Origins

The thuggee religion was allegedly a cult with both Hindu and Muslim members who practiced large-scale robbery and murder of travellers by strangulation. Induction was typically passed from father to son, with the women of the household being kept ignorant of the cult's activities.

Both of the factions into which the Thuggee belonged were divided by the Nerbudda river. Also, both Thuggee factions laid claim to antiquity. While members of the northern faction , however, did not trace their origin further back than the period of the early Muslim kings of Delhi, members of the southern faction not only claimed an earlier and purer descent, but adhered also with greater strictness to the rules of their profession.

The earliest authenticated mention of the Thugs is found in the following passage of Ziau-d din Barni's History of Firoz Shah (written about 1356):

"In the reign of that sultan (about 1290), some Thugs were taken in Delhi, and a man belonging to that fraternity was the means of about a thousand being captured. But not one of these did the sultan have killed. He gave orders for them to be put into boats and to be conveyed into the lower country, to the neighborhood of Lakhnauti, where they were to be set free. The Thugs would thus have to dwell about Lakhnauti and would not trouble the neighborhood of Delhi any more." (Sir HM Elliot's History of India, iii. 141).

Though they themselves trace their origin to seven Muslim tribes, the Hindu followers only seem to be related during the early periods of Islamic development; at any rate, their religious creed and staunch worship of Kali, one of the Hindu Tantric Goddesses, showed no Islamic influence. Assassination for gain was a religious duty for them, and was considered a holy and honorable profession, in which moral feelings did not come into play. It should be noted, however, that not all followers of Kali are thuggees, and the majority do not share the thuggee viewpoint.

Beliefs and practices

The Thugs were a well-organized confederacy of professional assassins who travelled in various guises through India in gangs of 10 to 200, worming themselves into the confidence of wayfarers of the wealthier class. When a favorable opportunity arose, the Thug strangled his victim by throwing a yellow scarf or Rumal (symbolic of Kal Bhairab) around the neck, and then plundered and buried him. All this was done according to certain ancient and rigidly prescribed forms, and after the performance of special religious rites, in which the consecration of the pickaxe and the sacrifice of sugar formed a prominent part. Due to the fact that they used strangulation as the method of murder they were also frequently called "Phansigars", or "noose-operators."

The will of the goddess by whose command and in whose honor they followed their calling was revealed to them through a very complicated system of omens. In obedience to these, they often travelled hundreds of miles in company with, or in the wake of, their intended victims before a safe opportunity presented itself for executing their design. When the deed was done, rites were performed in the deity's honor, and a significant portion of the spoils was set apart for Her.

They believed each murder prevented Kali's (their goddess's) arrival for 1000 years. The fraternity also possessed a jargon of their own (Ramasi), as well as certain signs by which its members recognized each other in the most remote parts of India. Even those who from age or infirmities could no longer take an active part in the ritual murder continued to aid the cause as watchers, spies, or dressers of food. Because of their thorough organization, the secrecy and security of their operation, and the religious pretext in which they shrouded their murders, they were recognized as a regular tax-paying profession and continued for centuries to practice their craft, free of inquiry from Hindu rulers.

British destruction of the cult

Thuggee was suppressed by the British rulers of India in the 1830s, due largely to the efforts of William Sleeman, who started an extensive campaign involving profiling, intelligence, and executions. A police organisation known as the Thuggee and Dacoity Department was established within the Government of India and remained in existence until 1904 when it was replaced by the Central Criminal Intelligence Department. The defeat of the Thuggees played a part in securing Indian loyalty to the British Raj.

According to the Guinness Book of Records the Thuggee cult was responsible for approximately 2,000,000 deaths. Gang leader Behram (or Burham) has often been considered to be the world's most prolific serial killer with 931 killings between 1790 and 1830 attributed to him. Reference to contemporary manuscript sources, however, shows that Behram actually gave inconsistent statements regarding the number of murders he had committed, and that while he did state that he had "been present at" more than 930 killings committed by his gang of 25-50 men, elsewhere he admitted that he had personally strangled no more than 125 people. Having turned King's Evidence and agreed to inform on his former companions, furthermore, Behram never stood trial for any of the killings attributed to him, the total of which must thus remain a matter of dispute [James Paton, 'Collections on Thuggee and Dacoitee', British Library Add.Mss. 41300].

24 posted on 03/11/2006 9:39:05 PM PST by El Cid
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To: bill1952

Ough oh.....publishing a cartoon of Mohammed is a no-no, don't you know!!


25 posted on 03/11/2006 9:49:18 PM PST by HardStarboard
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To: strategofr

There's something happening here
What it is ain't exactly clear
There's a man with a gun over there
Telling me I got to beware

I think it's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down


26 posted on 03/11/2006 10:03:00 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Travis McGee

I have read a fiction book about that called "The Notre Damme Mosque".


27 posted on 03/11/2006 11:08:36 PM PST by K. Smirnov (Do not let the sands of time get into your lunch)
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To: strategofr
Perhaps most troubling is the study’s finding that this new generation of Moslem children, born and raised in Europe, is growing up already indoctrinated to consider themselves part of a “Moslem nation” separate and opposed to everything Western civilization stands for. Whether it is their obscurantist worldview, their anti-democratic and violent tendencies or wide-spread admiration for Osama Bin Laden and assorted terrorists, this is a generation that is clearly on a collision course with democratic society.

The next big war will be fought not in Korea or Taiwan or Kashmir, but in Europe. And once again, Americans will die saving Europe from itself.

28 posted on 03/11/2006 11:18:33 PM PST by denydenydeny ("Osama... made the mistake of confusing media conventional wisdom with reality" (Mark Steyn))
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To: little jeremiah

You are correct.


29 posted on 03/12/2006 1:01:57 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (TODAY WOULD BE A GOOD DAY FOR LOTS OF HEAVY PRAYING, THE WORLD NEEDS YOUR PRAYERS.)
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To: denydenydeny
" The next big war will be fought not in Korea or Taiwan or Kashmir, but in Europe. And once again, Americans will die saving Europe from itself."

Yep, your right, more directly as, france goes....europe goes.

It's comming people and countries are picking sides, I wish I saw a different future but I don't. Dubya, has bought us some time, unfortunately I don't see anyone on the political scene that will continue the "deflective action", were currently using let alone the full scale war we will have to wage.

30 posted on 03/12/2006 1:16:26 AM PST by Kakaze (I'm now a single issue voter.....exterminate Al Quaida)
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To: strategofr

bump


31 posted on 03/12/2006 1:43:50 AM PST by VOA
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To: K. Smirnov

Yes, it's by a Russian woman, isn't it? I think it is not yet translated in English.


32 posted on 03/12/2006 8:24:05 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: strategofr
The resounding rejection of the EU constitutional project in France and the Netherlands has triggered much frenzied hand-wringing and anxious bickering about the future of Europe

Couldn't happen to nicer people
33 posted on 03/12/2006 8:25:33 AM PST by Vision ("There are no limits to growth because there are no limits of human intelligence" Ronald Reagan)
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To: El Cid

"I'm not a lawyer, however I believe a strong distinction can be made that islam is 'unique' amongst 'religions' (again, I submit that islam is not a religion, but I'll use that word in this context) in that its foundational writings encourage its adherents to kill those that aren't in its club. No other religion (as far as I know) calls out for killing non-believers. Thus I believe the case can be made that islam is not a religion but a dangerous mental disorder/philosophy."

To be honest, I do believe that Islam is a religion. Even if you are right that a case could be made that it is not, I would prefer not to do it that way.

I would prefer a short, concise constitutional amendment to make it clear that Congress can make a law regarding establishment of religion---if that religion incorporates the idea of killing and injuring American citizens and damaging our property.


34 posted on 03/12/2006 9:19:20 AM PST by strategofr (Hillary stole 1000+ secret FBI files on DC movers & shakers, Hillary's Secret War, Poe, p. xiv)
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To: Travis McGee
Yup.

Here name is Elena Chudinova. Here are couple of links I googled out.

http://www.fsumonitor.com/stories/092205Russia.shtml

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/008553.php

http://pedestrianinfidel.blogspot.com/2005/10/elena-chudinova-russias-orianna.html

As she says (first link) "she would rather live in a Russia controlled and garrisoned by the Americans than in a Moscow where the Russian Federation's own Muslims have established a caliphate". Oh my... That is strong comparison for a Russian. I couldn't have picked better words myself.

35 posted on 03/12/2006 11:28:45 AM PST by K. Smirnov (Do not let the sands of time get into your lunch)
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To: strategofr

I've always indulged myself in those books that give predictions of the end of the world, etc. I don't remember where I read it but one of the predictions was that when the end is near, religion as we know it will no longer exist and it will be in another format.

Hmmmmm....


36 posted on 03/12/2006 11:40:16 AM PST by CommandoFrank (Peer into the depths of hell and there you will find the face of Islam...)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican; strategofr

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1401971/posts Here's a more detailed article on the report.


37 posted on 03/12/2006 11:52:40 AM PST by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: K. Smirnov

Are you living in Russia now, mui Russkij drug?


38 posted on 03/12/2006 12:09:42 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: strategofr
Faced with this wholesale assault on basic democratic values and secularism, the educational establishment appears powerless and immobilized

What petty socialist educrat would risk his security and well-being by standing up for the weak tea of EU "democratic values," much less "secularism?" He has no children, in all likelihood, and no stake in the future of the country past his own limited years left to run. What would be the point?

39 posted on 03/12/2006 12:11:01 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: isrul
And they certainly don't have the will to make any physical response.

This is the big question for the euros. Their institutions are invaded before their eyes by savage hordes, yet they dither and whimper and know not what to do. Spirits depleted by their vaunted socialist secularism, they find themselves lacking all conviction. They stand to be easy prey for the worst dregs of humanity, who are filled with a furious intensity.

40 posted on 03/12/2006 12:23:56 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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