(School) Board votes down evolution analysis

cnn/ap ^ | 3-10-06

[curiosity]

Well put!

[edsheppa]

Only 25 posts to the first Catholic bash. Prolly not a record but pretty quck nontheless.

[Coyoteman]

===> Placemarker <===

[JamesP81]

Only 25 posts to the first Catholic bash. Prolly not a record but pretty quck nontheless.

Uhhh, who are you talking about?

[doc30]

I'd rather be a right wing flying monkey that a left wing moon-bat :)

[Ichneumon]

Another way to look at it is that "acting like an animal" does not equal "anything goes". Any higher order pack animal has to follow the pack's rules of society, or it is punished with death or exile. Atheists don't want to live in a community filled with amoral people any more than believers do.

Or as I wrote a while back in response to a similar argument:

If we deny that we are created beings (a creation must have a Creator), we have no accountability and an excuse to behave badly.

This is complete and utter nonsense. Even absent a creator, we still have accountability to others in our society. Behave badly, and pretty soon you're going to get the crap kicked out of you (literally or figuratively) -- and excuses about "it's in my nature" aren't going to fly.

If kin to apes, our primal desires to murder and breed are then instinctual.

...and so are our "primal desires" for cooperation, family and community bonds, love, caring for and protecting our children, defending our peers, etc. etc.

You really haven't thought this through at all, have you?

We are without guilt and free to roam and do as we please.

Horse manure. Even *apes* feel guilt, and fail to act as hedonistically and unrestrained as you ignorantly assume they "should". Get a clue.

Even apes understand that that sort of behavior is a recipe for disaster. And humans have even more of an ability to use their minds to understand why short-term selfish gains are *not* worthwhile or desirable strategies in the long run. Instead, cooperation, mutual altruism, "golden rule" ethics, and so on are vastly more effective ways to enhance even your *own* net benefits in a society, as well as the welfare of others. It's a win-win situation.

Duh. Even *apes* figure this out pretty fast as they grow up. What's *your* excuse?

Promiscuous sex, unwanted pregnancy, abortion (murder). The decline of the family... the decline of civilization.

Uh huh. Whatever you say.

Tell me, if it were somehow proven tomorrow that there wasn't a creator after all, would *you* suddenly start raping, killing, and pillaging? Yes or no? If Yes, shame on you, and you'd better have "fun" quick before you get shot or thrown in jail. If No, then realize you're not the only one with an actual brain and a conscience.

[Ichneumon]

Oz! Haven't seen you around for a while. Welcome back.

[Doctor Stochastic]

[edsheppa]

Why you of course. In #25 you said Catholics aren't Christians. Oh, and I guess you also mean that anyone who rejects the ideas listed in #16 (flat earth, 5000 year old earth, fossils are tools of satan, quantum mechanics is secular-speak for Jesus, etc) is also not a Christian.

Oh, that's not what you meant? Well, I guess LouAvul wasn't comparing Christians to "Mooselimbs" either. He was remarking on the ridiculous anti-science beliefs of creationists.

[Oztrich Boy]

Recalcitrant Computer (Maybe it believed it was just an animal)

[Senator Bedfellow]

...leave me alone...

Four-sides-to-every-story marker.

[wyattearp]

Let's see. The theory of evolution was introduced in the 1870's. Premarital sex rates started going up in the 1970's. Oh yeah, I definitely see a link there! What's a hundred year lag time? /sarcasm.

The increase in the rate of premarital sex has nothing to do with evolution, or religion for that matter. It can be tied directly to the availability of the birth control pill. Those little pills are what opened Pandora's Box (if you'll pardon the pun).

[Oztrich Boy]

The IDers want the research and debate conducted at the universities.

And I want a threesome with Claudia Black and Charlize Theron. But they're not interested, so - not going to happen.

[wyattearp]

Just do a simple study: compare the behavior of children taught in a Christian school that teaches Creation to the behavior of children in a non-Christian school that teaches evolution.

One of my half-sisters was raised in a fundamentalist church, and went to a school run by the church. She was taught science as the bible tells it. She was taught a curriculum that any YEC creationist would approve of.

She is a methamphetamine addict. She mainlines the junk. I do not expect her to be alive much longer. According to your logic, her fundamentalist Christian education is to blame. I do not agree with you.

[PatrickHenry]

And I want a threesome with Claudia Black and Charlize Theron.

It's only your belief in evolution that has caused you to be so twisted. No creationist would ever consider such a thing.

[wyattearp]

Um... hate to say this... but the crushing that appears to be going on is under Shiva's right foot.

[Oztrich Boy]

It's only your belief in evolution that has caused you to be so twisted

Belief or otherwise in evolution does not affect the Id.

[grey_whiskers]

And I want a threesome with Claudia Black and Charlize Theron.

Ummm, how about Lisa Randall and Ann Coulter?

(Yes, I just came from the Snarks when Bored thread on alternatives to black holes....)

Cheers!

[grey_whiskers]

Why not, Christianity originated in those few sandy countries during the same period as Mooselimbs. Their main argument was who was the returned prophet, Jesus or Mohammad.

Whiskey...Tango...Foxtrot...?

Cheers!

[grey_whiskers]

the Creationists do hire Harun Yahya extremists as experts to present their case.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is an ID'er? (Speaking of Dajjal...)

Cheers!

Moonbats of the world, unite.

OTOH, there are respectable scientists who are a bit, ummm, "odd" in their beliefs -- tho' not representative.

Kary Mullis comes to mind, as does the late Henry Eyring.

Cheers!