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Rape and Incest....Is Abortion Ever Okay?(Important legal perspective midway)
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Posted on 03/09/2006 11:44:59 AM PST by cpforlife.org

Rape and Incest… Is Abortion Ever Okay?

Many advocates for life are challenged with myths and tough questions. Is abortion the answer in some cases? No! All life has value and therefore should be respected and protected. Much of the truth about abortion receives little attention in public discourse, for it exposes what we, as a nation would rather not see. Following are myths and questions frequently raised by abortion proponents, and facts about the "hard cases" in the abortion debate.

ACCEPTING ABORTION FOR HARD CASES SUCH AS RAPE AND INCEST IS ONLY SENSIBLE. DOESN'T ABORTION NEED TO BE AVAILABLE FOR THESE DIFFICULT SITUATIONS? Pro-lifers must emphasize that no matter the circumstances of conception; there should never be embarrassment about bringing a child into the world. The value of a person is not determined by the circumstances of his or her conception. Rape and incest victims need support and compassion, not a "quick-fix solution" like abortion. Abortion only adds to the trauma and injustice already inflicted upon the mother.

ABORTION IS USED MAINLY AS A LAST RESORT, MOSTLY FOR PREGNANCIES THAT RESULT FROM RAPE OR INCEST. In a study conducted by the pro-abortion Alan Guttmacher Institute, entitled “Why Women Have Abortions,” women were asked to give specific reasons why they had an abortion. The top three answers were: 1. Unready for responsibility 2. Can't afford baby now 3. Concern about how having a baby would change her life. The three reasons, which came in last place and were tied at 1 percent included: 1. Was a victim of rape or incest 2. Husband or partner wanted the abortion 3. Didn't want others to know she has had sex or is pregnant. Studies and statistics consistently show that pregnancies due to rape and incest are rare. According to Guttmacher that 1% due to rape and incest is 14,000 babies per year. Therefore, abortion is not mainly used as a last resort.

ABORTION MUST BE ALLOWED IN ORDER TO SAVE THE LIFE OF THE MOTHER. "There are rare instances where a choice has to be made to save the mother's life over a child's," according to Kathleen M. Raviele, M.D. Dr. Raviele specializes in adult and adolescent gynecology and practices in Tucker, Georgia. Physicians now have the ability to treat the mother and child separately as the two individuals they are. Considering today's medical technology, it is extremely rare that an unborn baby's life must be sacrificed to save the mother' life. A very important distinction must be made between abortion, and removing an ectopic (tubal) pregnancy or inducing early delivery. While the former intends to destroy a life the latter seeks to preserve it.

WHAT ABOUT FETAL DEFECTS? WHY WOULD PRO-LIFERS PUNISH MOTHERS BY FORCING THEM TO HAVE BABIES WITH DISABILITIES? The value of human life cannot be measured by one's abilities or lack thereof. As human beings, we have unalienable rights despite any physical, mental or emotional disabilities we may have. Denying another's humanity on the basis of some concept of productivity or "perfection" is a very dangerous proposition. The door is then open to other forms of "mercy killing."

IF SAFE AND LEGAL ABORTIONS ARE NOT AVAILABLE WOMEN WILL BE DRIVEN TO DANGEROUS BACK-ALLEY ABORTIONS, RESULTING IN NEEDLESS INJURY AND DEATH. It should be remembered that a death occurs every time an abortion is performed - the death of an unborn child. It should also be emphasized that abortion is a surgical procedure, and though legal, it puts many women at serious physical, mental and emotional risk. Increasing attention is being focused on the fact that many women suffer post-abortion complications. While abortion proponents allege that thousands of women died from abortions prior to Roe v. Wade, such numbers were actually made up by individuals and groups pushing for abortion's legalization. The truth is that no one knows exactly how many women died from illegal abortions for the simple reason that illegal abortions were not reported. What we do know is that women - and their children - are suffering and dying now from legal abortion.

WHAT IF STATES PASS ABORTION-RESTRICTIVE LAWS THAT ALLOW FOR RAPE EXCEPTIONS? 1. Laws permitting abortion for pregnancy resulting from rape illustrate well the legal dictum "hard cases make bad law." Exceptions seem to make the rule.

2. Laws allowing abortion for impregnating rapes are unenforceable and easily abused.

3. Legislation allowing this exception has historically led to abortion on demand. Former President Reagan has attested to widespread abuse of the rape exception in his home state of California while he was governor. That exception became a legal loophole leading to abortion on demand due to overly broad interpretations of the law. Likewise, in England, the 1967 Abortion Act was passed to allow abortion for 'exceptional' cases. The outcome has been abortion on demand.

It is noteworthy that an entire U.S. Supreme Court case was predicated on the lie of a gang rape. That case, the now notorious Roe v Wade, brought us abortion on demand in this country.

SHOULDN'T ABORTION AT LEAST BE AVAILABLE TO VICTIMS OF RAPE AND INCEST? The last thing a woman who has been through the trauma of rape needs is the added trauma of an abortion. Rather than mitigating the original shock of the attack, abortion compounds it. Clinical studies demonstrate this. A study done at the University of British Columbia's Department of Psychiatry, as reported in the March 3, 1978, issue of Psychiatric News, a publication of the American Psychiatric Association, showed that abortion often exacerbates a woman's psychological stress. That study concluded in part: "Whatever may be the case at the conscious level, at a much deeper level abortion is regarded by many women as infanticide." Abortion advocates have used the rape and incest exceptions as a smokescreen - first to legalize, then to promote abortion on demand.

STILL, CAN'T ABORTION BE THE TRULY COMPASSIONATE RESPONSE TO RAPE? A cornerstone of the 'pro-choice' movement is that abortion is the treatment of choice for rape. Yet pregnancy rarely results from rape; the vast majority of abortions (over 99% according to the Alan Guttmacher Institute statistics-14,000 per year in the U.S.) are for far more convenient reasons than rape or incest. Vicki Seitzer in Volume 32 of the Journal of the American Medical Women's Association stated: "Perhaps more of a gross exaggeration than a myth is the mistaken and unfortunate belief that pregnancy is a frequent complication of sexual assault. This is emphatically not the case, and there are several medically sound reasons for it. Honesty requires us to say that it is unjust that a woman carry to term a child conceived through rape, but that it is a far greater injustice to kill the child. This is a rare situation in which injustice cannot be avoided; the best thing that can be done is to reduce it. The first injustice lasts for nine months of a life that can be relieved, both psychologically and financially. The second injustice ends a life, and there is no remedy for that."

WHAT ABOUT INCEST? Abortion actually protects the perpetrator of the crime by concealing the incestuous act. Returning the girl to the same environment after an abortion does nothing to solve the primary problem. By taking away the result of the incest, abortion advocates think they can take away the act itself. Consider the example of Edith Young, a 12-year-old incest victim, who writes 25 years after the abortion of her child: Throughout the years I have been depressed, suicidal, furious, outraged, lonely and have felt a sense of loss...The abortion which was to 'be in my best interest' just has not been. As far as I can tell, it only 'saved their reputations,' 'solved their problems,' and 'allowed their lives to go merrily on.'...My daughter, how I miss her so. I miss her regardless of the reason for her conception.

IF PREGNANCIES FROM RAPE AND INCEST ARE UNUSUAL, WHY CAN'T PROLIFERS COMPROMISE ON THIS ONE ISSUE? It is absolutely indisputable that the life within the womb is a unique human being. To say that this irreplaceable life can be destroyed for a crime its father committed is to deny the intrinsic humanity of the unborn. Civilized societies don't stoop to routine violence in an effort to conceal their social problems.

Abortion doesn’t stop rape! Abortion stops the life of the unborn child!


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To: SoothingDave

Yep, I am. Sorry, your not the judge of what it means to be pro life.


81 posted on 03/09/2006 2:57:58 PM PST by pissant
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To: coop71

Dang! Looking at you picture I would have never guessed you were a conservative/libertarian. No offense, but a Manhattan liberal is what I would have thought. Still, nice picture.


82 posted on 03/09/2006 3:39:21 PM PST by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: coop71
Well, if it makes you feel better, disregard the posts. My information should I suppose have been stated as being IMO, however it isn't. It is rather first hand accounts via doctors visits over the years, taking their advice, and information gathered in my PDR and drug administration courses.

So,e things, by nature and common sense are self explanatory anyway, as I believe what I posted is. Interfere with normal hormonal function, and you have medical issues.
83 posted on 03/09/2006 4:01:43 PM PST by gidget7 (Get GLDSEN out of our schools!!)
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To: SoothingDave
There are no easy solutions. Killing an innocent child doesn't make the rape go away, it compounds one crime with another, and turns the victim into a predator.

Well, then using your logic, if the mother cannot handle the pregnancy because it was caused by such an evil act and commits suicide because you will not allow the abortion, then you have caused two deaths.
84 posted on 03/09/2006 4:02:52 PM PST by microgood
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To: SoothingDave
There are no easy solutions. Killing an innocent child doesn't make the rape go away, it compounds one crime with another, and turns the victim into a predator.

Well, then using your logic, if the mother cannot handle the pregnancy because it was caused by such an evil act and commits suicide because you will not allow the abortion, then you have caused two deaths.
85 posted on 03/09/2006 4:03:12 PM PST by microgood
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To: pissant
I believe God will forgive the woman. You apparently believe he won't.

I believe God forgives any sin, but that does not excuse us for encouraging sin, or even for approving of it.

SD

86 posted on 03/09/2006 4:25:57 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: CounterCounterCulture

And this is in response to???


87 posted on 03/09/2006 4:51:44 PM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: cpforlife.org

How can it not be relative, if it has more than one perspective, and they are opposite?


88 posted on 03/10/2006 5:15:51 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Melas

Your hateful attacks at #43.


89 posted on 03/10/2006 11:15:45 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture (We shall overcome)
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To: Beagle8U; Jersey Republican Biker Chick; arasina; colorcountry; JLO; najida; Auntbee; BerthaDee; ...
Ever stop and think that perhaps lots of so called rapes were really a case of someone screwing around and getting pregnant?

Husband get a vasectomy, wife screws around and gets pregnant, claims she was raped?

Same deal for lots of daughters that mess around and get pregnant, claim rape.

Sure, there are lots of forced rapes, but there are lots of those other cases too.

In any case, the child committed no crime and shouldn't be put to death.

Another "enlightened" individual...


90 posted on 03/11/2006 1:23:08 PM PST by Dashing Dasher ( I prayed, ---- 'O Lord, make my enemies ridiculous.' ----- And God granted it.)
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To: Dashing Dasher

What do you think, DD? This is really controversial. I used to think one way, but now my thoughts are changing to more pro-life.

I know a guy who dated a girl in high school. She got pregnant, got an abortion without telling him. He was so upset, he never talked to her again. But now they are back together again. I know he is very pro-life, so I guess things change according to the situation. ???


91 posted on 03/11/2006 1:38:32 PM PST by phantomworker (The joy of engineering is to find a straight line on a double logarithmic diagram. - Thomas Koenig)
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To: pissant
If the gov't decided on a population program to increase our numbers, and abducted and impregnated our wives and daughters . . . .

Too much cocaine can make you paranoid.

92 posted on 03/11/2006 1:41:33 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: phantomworker

You know what I think? I think abortion is a personal or medical issue and not a political one.

I believe that Clinton was elected - not just because of Ross Perot - but also because of the politicalization of abortion.

I believe there are many MANY conservative individuals who vote for the Dems because of this one issue. We are stuck with horrible politics because of this ONE ISSUE! And... we have hurt ourselves and our country and our politics - to no avail. Abortion is still legal and we have idiots like Barbara Boxer and Diane Feinstein and Hillary Clinton in places of power in our country.

I, for one, have not been pregnant - so, have never been put in a position to make this decision. I certainly hope that I would choose life. I know many women who have chosen abortion - and I feel they have been affected by the decision forever.

I think that educating women about birth control - and making it accessible is a high priority. I think teaching abstinance to our youngsters is a VERY high priority - but I don't see it happening.

I don't think it's my place in the universe to tell someone else what to do with a very difficult and personal decision.

Sorry - I'm a MYOB kinda gal.

Oh - to those that feel like flaming me - don't bother. I've heard it all before and don't care. This is my opinion - you have yours.

Peace.


93 posted on 03/11/2006 1:47:39 PM PST by Dashing Dasher ( I prayed, ---- 'O Lord, make my enemies ridiculous.' ----- And God granted it.)
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To: Dashing Dasher

What you say makes a lot of sense!!!


94 posted on 03/11/2006 2:07:29 PM PST by phantomworker (The joy of engineering is to find a straight line on a double logarithmic diagram. - Thomas Koenig)
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To: cpforlife.org; 4lifeandliberty; AbsoluteGrace; afraidfortherepublic; Alamo-Girl; anniegetyourgun; ..

Pro-Life/Pro-Baby ping!

Please FReepmail me if you would like to be added to, or removed from, the Pro-Life/Pro-Baby ping list...

95 posted on 03/11/2006 4:23:54 PM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: pissant
A rapist is even worse, but his offspring should pay for his crime? And not only pay for the scumbag's crime, but pay by being ripped limb from limb?

Moronic. Absolutely moronic.

96 posted on 03/11/2006 7:30:03 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (GOP Blend Coffee--"Coffee for Conservative Taste!" Go to www.gopetc.com)
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To: al baby

Conception from rape is extremely rare. Many rapists don't even ejaculate, because it's a crime of domination.


97 posted on 03/11/2006 7:32:53 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (GOP Blend Coffee--"Coffee for Conservative Taste!" Go to www.gopetc.com)
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To: pissant
Then have at it partner, you can raise Ted Bundy's kid.

"Sorry kid, I know it'll hurt when I draw and quarter you, but your Daddy was a bad man, and I'm all about the justice." Yeah, real smart.

98 posted on 03/11/2006 7:35:23 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (GOP Blend Coffee--"Coffee for Conservative Taste!" Go to www.gopetc.com)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
If you could kill Ted Bundy's kid, how does that make you any better than Ted Bundy?

Wham! Direct hit!

99 posted on 03/11/2006 7:36:57 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (GOP Blend Coffee--"Coffee for Conservative Taste!" Go to www.gopetc.com)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball
Something I was thinking about. What if it can be determined the baby will be born with severe genetic disorder / deformities..say blind, missing limbs, etc ?

Forgive me for citing from a science fiction show, but I think Geordi LaForge from Star Trek: The Next Generation handled this issue best. In one episode they visited a planet populated by colonists who had sealed themselvves off from the world in an attempt to construct a perfect society. This included physical perfection; one of the colonists sheepishly admitted to Geordi that his congenital blindness would have been detected in utero and he would have been aborted. Geordi asked, "And who would they be to decide that my life was too difficult to be lived? Who are they to decide if a person like me gets to exist?"

Major birth defects are tragic, but abortion compounds the tragedy and is the worst sort of playing God.

100 posted on 03/11/2006 7:45:57 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (GOP Blend Coffee--"Coffee for Conservative Taste!" Go to www.gopetc.com)
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