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Dubai threat to hit back (UAE Threatens Against Boeing and US Bases Support)
The Hill.com ^ | March 9, 2006 | Roxana Tiron

Posted on 03/09/2006 9:02:17 AM PST by prairiebreeze

Dubai is threatening retaliation against American strategic and commercial interests if Washington blocks its $6.8 billion takeover of operations at several U.S. ports.

As the House Appropriations Committee yesterday marked up legislation to kill Dubai Ports World’s acquisition of Britain’s Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation (P&O), the emirate let it be known that it is preparing to hit back hard if necessary.

A source close to the deal said members of Dubai’s royal family are furious at the hostility both Republicans and Democrats on Capitol Hill have shown toward the deal.

“They’re saying, ‘All we’ve done for you guys, all our purchases, we’ll stop it, we’ll just yank it,’” the source said.

Retaliation from the emirate could come against lucrative deals with aircraft maker Boeing and by curtailing the docking of hundreds of American ships, including U.S. Navy ships, each year at its port in the United Arab Emirates (UAE), the source added.

It is not clear how much of Dubai’s behind-the-scenes anger would be followed up by action, but Boeing has been made aware of the threat and is already reportedly lobbying to save the ports deal.

The Emirates Group airline will decide later this year whether it will buy Boeing’s new 787 Dreamliner or its competitor, Airbus A350. The airline last fall placed an order worth $9.7 billion for 42 Boeing 777 aircraft, making Dubai Boeing’s largest 777 customer.

Dubai in mid-February also established the Dubai Aerospace Enterprise, a $15 billion investment to create a company that will lease planes, develop airports and make aircraft parts to tap into growing demand for air travel in the Middle East and Asia.

The family-ruled sheikhdom may buy as many as 50 wide-body aircraft from Boeing and Airbus during the next four years, according to Aerospace Enterprise officials.

The UAE military also bought Boeing’s Apache helicopters. Meanwhile, Boeing has been in talks with the emirates to try to sell its AWACS planes.

An industry official with knowledge of Boeing’s contracts with Dubai said that the company has been involved in the emirate and that it would take a lot “to knock” those relationships.

“Nothing about the [ports] controversy diminishes our commitment to the region,” said John Dern, Boeing’s corporate spokesman. He added that at this point the company has no indication that there is or will be an impact on the company.

Any repercussion to Boeing could put House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) in a delicate position. Boeing’s decision to move its headquarters to Chicago has been seen as calculated to facilitate a close relationship with Hastert. He is against the ports deal, and his office did not return calls by press time.

Several businesses have expressed concern that the controversy over the $6.8 billion ports deal could damage trade with the UAE. Dubai is one of the seven emirates. The United States and the UAE are meeting next week for a fourth round of talks to sign a free-trade agreement. The American Business Group of Abu Dhabi, which has no affiliation with the U.S. government, said that Arabs may hesitate to invest into the United States, according to a report by Reuters.

A Republican trade lobbyist said that because the ports deal is a national-security issue blocking it would not be in violation of World Trade Agreement rules.

“In terms of them retaliating legally against the U.S. … I don’t think there are many options there,” the lobbyist said.

But when it comes to the emirates’ cooperation in the war on terrorism and in intelligence gathering, there is concern that some help may be pulled.

“If we reject the company in terms of doing the [ports] work, they are going to lose a lot of face. In the Arab culture, losing face is a big deal,” a former government official said. “We risk losing that help. It is not an empty threat.”

Dubai is a critical logistics hub for the U.S. Navy and a popular relaxation destination for troops fighting in the Middle East. On many occasions since the ports story erupted, the Pentagon has stressed the importance of the U.S-UAE relationship.

Last year, the U.S. Navy docked 590 supply vessels in Dubai, plus 56 warships, Gordon England, deputy secretary of defense, said in a Senate hearing last month. About 77,000 military personnel went on leave in the UAE last year, he added.

During the hearing, he warned about the implications of a negative decision on the ports deal: “So obviously it would have some effect on us, and I’d not care to quantify that, because I don’t have the facts to quantify it. It would certainly have an effect on us.”

Although owned by the Dubai government, the company at the heart of this controversy, Dubai Ports World, is trying to distance itself from any kinds of threats, said a lobbyist closely tracking the deal.

Another lobbyist monitoring the controversy said K Street still believes there will be a compromise that allows the Dubai deal to go through while meeting congressional security concerns, even though a bill aimed at that result, put forward by House Homeland Security Committee Chairman Peter King (R-N.Y.), was widely repudiated amongst lawmakers Tuesday.

Senate leaders have indicated that they would wait to take action until the new 45-day Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) review is completed.

Meanwhile, in London, DP World cleared the last hurdle for its take over of P&O. The Court of Appeal in London refused Miami-based Eller & Co., which opposed the deal, permission to appeal against clearances for the legal and financial measures necessary to implement the takeover.

P&O said it expects to file the requisite court orders, making the takeover terms binding on DP World, according to the Financial Times.

Elana Schor contributed to this report.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: americafirst; dubai; howdareyouopposew; nationalsecurity; portgate; thenwebetterbendover; uae
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To: Jhohanna

There are. Now and then the posting guidelines are posted. I don't have them handy, but someone no doubt does.


1,301 posted on 03/09/2006 2:02:39 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: gondramB

The first voices were RAT voices. You need to get out more. ;)


1,302 posted on 03/09/2006 2:02:47 PM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: mlc9852

That is not exactly true (Plato gay), it was a diferent era, with diferent views of the roles of men and women. The short version is: women are intelectually infeior to men, so much so that man could not have a real 'soul mate' with a women only another man. Sex was a diferent issue altogether.


1,303 posted on 03/09/2006 2:02:52 PM PST by jpsb (Proud USMC vet.)
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To: ohioWfan
all your zigzagging and insulting me personally (when I had opened a civil debate)

Is that supposed to be a joke? Your initial post to me, and my initial reply to you were both civil. Then, unhappy with my reply you started letting the insults fly. Anybody can go up in the thread and see that, so I don't see the point in lying about it. As for your assertion that this forum is filled with people who want to "kill all the arabs", I don't see any of them either. As much as you would like to rely on the race card to cut short the debate, there simply is no justification for it.

1,304 posted on 03/09/2006 2:03:21 PM PST by Junior_G
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To: yellowdoghunter

"I have heard that also. Just makes me sick to my stomach."

I just think it sounds odd to quote someone just because they lived thousands of years ago and were greek, then it makes great wisdom.

sorta like saying today, "Oh Yeah!! Well Barney Frank said...."


1,305 posted on 03/09/2006 2:04:04 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?")
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To: paulcissa
I don't need to feel vindicated for stating my opinion.

No, you don't even need to be consistent, realistic, or rational. Bush does, though.

1,306 posted on 03/09/2006 2:04:19 PM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Peach


DITTO, Peach.


1,307 posted on 03/09/2006 2:04:22 PM PST by onyx (IF ONLY 10% of Muslims are radical, that's still 120 MILLION who want to kill us.)
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To: Solson
We have nukes. We are in a war. The problem is some think the war is against just a few crazy muslim terrorists. If that were true, then there would be a least 10,000 troops from Dubai helping us in Iraq - but there isn't.

Why?

Because the enemy is Islam.

Nuke Tehran and Islam will get the message. If they don't, keep Nuking them till they do. Either way we win and they lose.

Now, if we wait and go with the compassionate kinder gentler war fighting, that has taken us longer to beat a bunch of punks with RPGs than it took us to beat 10 million veteran German and Japanese troops, and thousands of their planes and ships.......

Tagline:

Actually it will be much worse than Nam because the enemy will have Nukes and other WMDs.
1,308 posted on 03/09/2006 2:05:13 PM PST by TomasUSMC ((FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.))
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To: Howlin
since you obviously haven't learned the proper forum etiquette:

Obviously, Howlin', you have some issues with me. There is nowhere that "proper forum ettiqutte" is dictated, near as I can tell, and I searched this site up and down and all around, and I could never find it. So, I would appreciate it if you could *point* me in the direction to find it myself.

Again, you start the whole thing off with another personal attack. I don't understand why you are so nasty to me in particular, or to the others that I have seen you do. You are getting off on it, apparently, and I'm through with you. You did have an ounce of respect in my heart before this post. No longer.
1,309 posted on 03/09/2006 2:05:28 PM PST by Jhohanna (Born Free)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
"That is totally false"

Oh OK if you say so. LOL, do you listen to conservative talk radio?

1,310 posted on 03/09/2006 2:06:07 PM PST by jpsb (Proud USMC vet.)
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To: KJC1
Gee...someone with knowledge of their country. Perhaps you can share that with the bumpkins around here thinking the UAE is just another sand desert with tents and camels, no big cities, no modern conveniences and run by folks who live in nomadic tribes and crap on the floor of their homes.

I'd love to know the percent of people on this thread that have ever engaged in business with a foreign based company. From the looks of it, it cannot be many.

1,311 posted on 03/09/2006 2:06:20 PM PST by Solson (magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.)
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To: Jhohanna
It's really hard to have an honest debate with everyone feeling so defensive because people attack them as you have me

BS; I have not ATTACKED you. In fact, it is you who has made false claims about me, which I'm still waiting for an answer on.

People don't put forth what they really want to share for fear of reprisal.

Really? Perhaps I should tell the people who I post with all day long they should be in fear; you're not going to find many hear fearful of me.

Reprisal? The facts?

And I might remind you that YOU start this with your post to me; I made a simple statement about how long I had been posting and observing on this site and you've been making snarky remarks and lecturing me ever since.

1,312 posted on 03/09/2006 2:07:21 PM PST by Howlin ("Quick, he's bleeding! Is there a <strike>doctor</strike> reporter in the house?")
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To: JFC
I've seen the words 'pull the race card' one too many times around here, JFC.

To use another gambling term, what it really is, is calling a spade a spade. When people on this forum use the term 'raghead' with regularity, and talk about bombing them ALL (including the 'nits'), it IS a problem, and it's dangerous..........no matter how hard some try to turn the accusation around on the one speaking the truth.

If people don't think racism was a factor in some people's opposition to this port deal (which was approved by the U.S. military), then they're in complete denial.

1,313 posted on 03/09/2006 2:07:49 PM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: Solson
"I swear this is Pat Buchanan's revenge. He helped create a bunch of nationalists who seek to paint all ME countries with one big brush...damn the consequences. EVERY person on FR who opposes this Dubai deal is also in favor on constructing a bigass wall along the mexican border. It's no surprise. And they wonder why they're able to paint Republican's with the hillbilly brush...."

Pat can't do things like that without help....

Although I would like to note that I am in favor of criminalizing entering the country illegally and building a big ass wall but did not oppose the port deal.
1,314 posted on 03/09/2006 2:08:28 PM PST by gondramB (Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and unto God that which is God's.)
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To: TomasUSMC

Please...tell me more about the role dubai plays in Iraq...and what their role is in helping the US in the Middle East.


1,315 posted on 03/09/2006 2:08:29 PM PST by Solson (magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
Plato push for homosexuality among troops. http://members.aol.com/matrixwerx/glbthistory/plato.htm Any other philosphers you wanna quote?

And then? Homosexuality far predates us... it didn't change anything about his teachings that remain true to this day. And in the Ancient World, homosexuality was practiced open and freely. Funny, we all still came into being.

Why does being gay automatically discount something, because you don't like it? How does it change the fact that the four virtues of politics are taught and challenged to this day? I'm sorry, but I'm not among the classic conservative homophobe stance. I love too many of them to be as such.
1,316 posted on 03/09/2006 2:08:54 PM PST by Jhohanna (Born Free)
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To: gondramB
I'm not in favor of illegal immigration EITHER, but there are many, many folks here who ARE in favor of rounding up anyone they SUSPECT as an illegal and shipping em out. Furthermore, there are a HUGE number of people here simply opposed to anyone Mexican or South American period.

It's 1914-1917 immigration policy all over again. woopee.

1,317 posted on 03/09/2006 2:11:01 PM PST by Solson (magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.)
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To: Jhohanna
Again, you start the whole thing off with another personal attack.

That's big time projection; you started this.

I don't understand why you are so nasty to me in particular, or to the others that I have seen you do.

Only to people who misstate facts.

As you have done about me.

And I am STILL waiting for the link to my post about bin Laden Construction Company and the UAE.

1,318 posted on 03/09/2006 2:12:27 PM PST by Howlin ("Quick, he's bleeding! Is there a <strike>doctor</strike> reporter in the house?")
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To: TigersEye
You know better than this. Or you should. It was establised beyond any doubt that DPW was in management, seven levels removed from any onsite position. The longshoremen that are there now would have, and will be, the same men.

Coulda, shoulda. Divesting is the best option. Saves face for Dubai, and brings the rhetoric down a few notches. Immigration is inextricably tied to this. I wrote and called my Representative and Senator regarding this. And regarding immigration. I fall into the "let's do something reasonable about illegal immigration" crowd. No round them all up. No wall. No trade the Green card for Gold card. Yes for document compliance, workplace enforcement, wage/hour/safety enforcement. The only way to plan a viable policy is to get an accurate count of illegal immigrants and register them. I do not pretend to know exactly how the program should work. That is why legislators make the big bucks. I do know that there is a problem, and the Dims are whipping people into an isolationist/nationalist frenzy regarding Mexico.

1,319 posted on 03/09/2006 2:13:13 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever
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To: Jhohanna

"Why does being gay automatically discount something, because you don't like it?"

Does your husband know you are pushing the homosexual agenda? :)


1,320 posted on 03/09/2006 2:13:27 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?")
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