Posted on 03/08/2006 2:53:43 PM PST by Ooh-Ah
House Appropiations Committe voted to block Dubai deal
"he didn't spend trillions on a border wall."
Naw, Bush is doing that on more important things, like prescription drugs.
Read this below
A ship owned by a Chinese government-run company that currently operates two giant terminals at the Port of Long Beach, California . . . .
"Yeah great. So the BushBorgs have finally gotten their blood, and they're going to take Bush down because he didn't spend trillions on a border wall.
Now Congresscritters scatter from Bush, Frist etal turn their daggers on him while he's "weak" and the true leftists are just hanging in the wings letting the divided house fall to them.
And the entire reason the GOP is in chaos is because...., let me guess, that's riiiight "BUSH'S FAULT!!!" Where have I heard that before?"
You have a great flair for the dramatic, however, it is probably pointless to debate here with you as you sound like you are a dyed in the wool Bushbot (which rhymes with robot), and will not allow for any faults to be found in Bush or his policies during his term(s) in office. Impasse reached. And by the way, who is sitting here defending Congress? No one. You are the one who went off on this tangent as if it is a comparison or either/or. These are not mutually exclusive concepts; Congress being inadequate in many ways, and Bush being inadequate in many ways. Nor does it negate some of the good things both have done. For the Pubs, it has been a hard road to hoe, as they have to fight the Dems in Congress all the time, along w/the occasional RINO.
But there is no requirement for the Pubs in Congress to walk in lockstep w/Bush on every issue, especially over something like turning over management of some of our major ports to an Arab company which is owned by their Dubai gov't, without blinking an eye. Now, when you can get off of your platform with your bullhorn, perhaps a rational discussion can be had.
Are you going to spam every thread with the same old stuff?
Again. Thank you.
I believe that the Dubai ports deal is good, will help us in the WOT and I think the UAE is a better ally than France or Germany. Also, the UAE is a perfect staging location should we decide to take out any Iranian nuke facilities.
Thought for the Day: The President will sign off on the 45 day review early and approve the port deal before any law is passed to stop the deal. Then no law can stop it. Forget the veto option.
I'm done. I'm throwing my hands up in disgust with this whole thing. Every time I hear port deal I'm putting my fingers in my ears and going lalalala.
I'm tired. Without looking it up, can you tell me:
1. Is the Miami port one affected by this deal?
2. Did I read right (giving a cursory glance) that Dems got all sort of $$ from the Miami port?
I readily admit I've had my concerns about this deal .. but the way the republicans have acted is way over board .. they had no intentions of reviewing this any of this .. they didn't want facts .. they didn't want questions answered
They already made up their minds .. which leads me to believe there are back room dealing going on
This reaction is all about them and screw the rest of us in finding out the answers to best handle this sale
Absolutely not. And I hope that I can make this clear, and at best, that we can simply disagree on what is a terrifically important matter.
My point is that for security, there are window bars, and there are motion detectors.
Nothing is infallible, but ideally I prefer that the FedGov focus on tracking/surveilling/catching potential terrorists BEFORE they commit their crime, NO MATTER WHERE THEY ARE. A wall does nothing for that.
I want the FedGov to be able to stop the DC Sniper. I want them to catch the Anthrax mailer. I want them to find a nuke in a container before it ships out of Dubai!
I understand your contention that you'd like to lock down the building, clean out all the bad guys, and live happily ever after.
With kids like the UNC Muslim thug, or Tim McVey or the Muslim DC Snipers, I don't see how a wall helps.....even worse....imagine this:
Suppose Bush unveils a five trillion dollar wall tomorrow. Conservatives everywhere rejoice. The economy suffers a jolt from the disconnect, but eventually, a protectionist nirvana takes hold. The USA is a shining city on a hill. A "lily white" licensed pilot a la McVey crashes a plane into the Whitehouse the day after, because he made a deal with Midle East terrorists. The following day, OBL puts out a video to the triumphal cheers of terrorists everywhere: "America's walls cannot hold out Allah's will!" Al Queada's ranks swell.
All it takes is one spectacular attack with the wall up, and it is not only worthless, but an albatross.
I'd rather focus on being able to kill these bastards before they even get here, and when they are here, monitor them to find their cohorts and kill them, too. I do not want to turn them away at the border. I want them DEAD.
Would you support rounding them up immediately? Or would you wait just short of them carrying out their plan?
With the exception of their officer corps, their entire army consists of foreign nationals, or people trained by other U.S. allies.
They are basically a protectorate of the United States and European governments.
Why on earth would a nation the size of a postage stamp-that relies exclusively upon us to protect their borders, and which would become a province of the IRI if we left-ask us to leave?
Good post. Great pics!!
In one day the Republicans became the party of NO. It use to be the Republicans were the party of ideas and compromise but they've become so lazy that no is just much easier.
Doesn't matter Mo. They care for THEM, not for us, not our security, nothing. It's all about them. We needed to be informed to make a right decision, now that was taken away from us. Like I said earlier, I saw on CNN when Blitzer was in Dubai. We're getting goods here through our ports from other countries (Korea,China) where Dubai runs their ports. If they want to get us they can get us from any port, not just the ones run by Dubai. Hell Mo, look what they do in Israel and other places, they don't need a port, all they need is a bus, garbage truck, or a person with a bomb belt strapped on themselves.
"WHY did the Congresscritter Know Nothings in the Congress put their Anti-Capitalism "Port" legislation INSIDE an Appropriation bill?
Simply to force Bush to choose between funding the troops, and sinking the port deal."
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"No different a tactic than a crook uses when he holds a hostage at a mini-mart."
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This forced Bush to sink the troops AND sinks the port deal.
"Suppose Bush unveils a five trillion dollar wall tomorrow..."
Who is giving you these numbers? La Raza?
Right now as far as I'm concerned .. the republicans in congress can go to hell
I'm sick of their games
Grrr... my headache is back
The impasse is simple. I fault Congresscrud more than I fault Bush....because.....I personally cna name initatives off the top of my head that Bush has taken that are critical to America's safety that no other candidate would touch (ABM, Kyoto, etc.) I personally cannot name a single thing that Congresscrud has done similarly.
I only asked for you to mention a single initiative that Congress or Bush has taken to garner your support, or deserve your opposition. We could then compare our "peeves" and weigh them with our own.
There would be no winner. No right or wrong. Maybe you'd recognize something in my concerns, me in yours.
I don't believe you've enumerated a single item, but perhaps you did take time to suggest that I sound like a Bushbot, and that supporting him in this matter means marching in "lockstep."
And I didn't call you a BushBorg (yes, rhymes with Borg). Unless you are one of the people that want to "take Bush down."
If the MSM and Rats start talking about how popular it would be to impeach the President these Republicans would be the first to draft the proposal.
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