Posted on 03/08/2006 10:43:37 AM PST by Stoat
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Wouldn't "low conviction rates" suggest that a large number of men are being brought to trial improperly, when they are in fact not guilty?
It seems that they are launching an 'awareness campaign' directed at men, when the problem actually is women making false rape charges.
I bet some good lawyer on this forum can develop a 'release form' that we can have signed at the appropriate moment. Of course we would need at least two witnesses to sign also. Video would be good. Need a release for that too.
The campaign will begin with two radio advertisements, followed on March 20 with magazine advertisements and posters in men's lavatories in urban pubs and clubs, and the Clinton Library.
Jeez! And they used to complain about diaphragms spoiling the spontaneity.
Note to self: It's officially time to invest in artificial vagina manufacturers in the UK.
Coffee spit on screen alert!
Although of course Clinton's conduct was criminal, not funny.
Well, the radical fems are behind this, for sure. The low rate of convictions is the problem - we need more MEN convicted of rape! Especially since ALL MEN are rapists! Hetrosexual sex itself is rape!
Hmmm... Does a woman have to be assured of consent if she hops on top of a guy.... or is this just "a guy thing"?
Blanket Release
This certifies that I, the undersigned female about to give my body voluntarily in a sexual intercourse with __________________________ am above the lawful age of consent, am in my right mind and not under the influence of any drug or narcotic. Neither does he have to use any force, threats nor promises to influence me.
I am in no fear of him whatever, do not expect or want to marry him, don't know whether he is married or not, and don't care. I am not asleep or drunk, and am entering into this relation with him because I love it and want it as much as he does, and if I receive the satisfaction I expect, I am willing to consider an early return engagement.
Furthermore, I agree never to appear as a witness against him or to prosecute him under the Mann White Slave act.
Signed before jumping into bed this _____ day of __________, 19____.
By ________________________________________ Age ____________
Address ________________________________________
Phone Number __________________
Lotsa loopholes, but you get the idea:
P R E - R E L A T I O N S H I P A G R E E M E N T
The party of the first part (herein referred to as "she"), being of sound mind and pretty good body, agrees to the following with the party of the second part (herein referred to as "him"):
1. FULL DISCLOSURE: At the commencement of said relationship(colloquially referred to as the "first date"), each party agrees to fully disclose any current girl/boyfriends, dependent children, bizarre religious beliefs, phobias, fears, social diseases, strange political affiliations, or currently active relationships with anyone else that have not yet been terminated. Further, each party agrees to make known any deep-seated complexes and/or fanatical obsessions with pets, careers, and/or organized sports. Failure to make these disclosures will result in the immediate termination of said relationship before it has a chance to get anywhere.
2. INDEMNIFICATION OF FRIENDS: Both parties agree to hold the person who arranged the liaison (colloquially referred to as the "matchmaker") blameless in the event that the "fix-up" turns out to be a "real loser" or "psycho b*tch". (For definition of "real loser", see "John DeLorean: My Story", available at most bookstores, or any picture of Bob Guccione in "Penthouse". For definition of "psycho b*tch," see Sharon Stone in "Basic Instinct" or Glenn Close in "Fatal Attraction.")
3. DEFINITION OF RELATIONSHIP: Should said relationship proceed past the first date, both parties mutually agree to use the following terminology in describing their said "dating": For the first thirty (30) days, both parties consent to say they are "going out". (This neither implies nor states any guarantee of exclusivity.) Following the first thirty (30) days, both parties may say they are "seeing somebody" and may be referred to by third parties as "an item". Sixty (60) days following the commencement of the first date, either member may elect to use the terms "girl/boyfriend" or "lover" and their mutual acquaintances may refer to them as "a couple". Under no circumstances are the phrases "my better half," "the little woman," "the old ball and chain," or "my old man/lady" acceptable. Furthermore, if both members consent, this timetable may be sped up; however, if either party "gets too serious" and disregards this schedule, the other party may dissolve the relationship on the grounds of "moving too fast" and may once again be said to be "on the market."
4. TERMS OF EXCLUSIVITY: For the first thirty (30) days, both parties agree not to ask questions about the other's whereabouts on weekends, weeknights, or over long holiday periods. No unreasonable demands or expectations will be made; "rights" or "holds" on the other's time. Following the first six weeks or forty-five (45) days, if one party continues to be "missing in action" the "wounded party" agrees to "give up".
5. DATING ETIQUETTE: For the first thirty (30) days, both members of the couple agree to be overly considerate of the other's work pressures, schedules, and business ambitions. All dates will be made at least twenty-four (24) hours in advance; there will be no "running off in the middle of the night to console an old girl/boyfriend", and both parties agree to strike the phrase "but he/she needs me" from their vocabularies. Further, during the first six (6) weeks each member of said relationship agrees to attempt one spontaneous home-cooked meal or to arrange the delivery of at least one unexpected bouquet of flowers. Following the first forty-five (45) days, both parties will return to their normal personalities.
6. TERMS OF PAYMENT: It is agreed that -- respective gross income aside "he" will pick up the tab at all dinners, clubs, theaters, and breakfasts until: He considers her suitably impressed, He is broke, or He says, "this is ridiculous, you pay!" Not included in this agreement are meals ordered from the bedroom, which are subject to the availability of discretionary funds on hand at the time.
7. LIVING ARRANGEMENTS (occasionally known as the "Why do I bother to keep my own apartment?" codicil): Should said relationship progress to the point where the couple spends more than four nights a week together, every effort shall be made to split the time between their respective apartments. Further, it is agreed that both sides will attempt to silence the lewd remarks of landlords, or roommates. Both will avoid having their mothers call at 7:30 in the morning. He agrees to "pick up after himself" while in residence at her apartment, including washing his whiskers out of the sink, and assisting with household duties. By the same token, she agrees to respect his right to keep his apartment "a mess".
8. THE 90-DAY GRACE PERIOD: For the first three months, each member of the couple agrees to hold the other blameless in the euphoric use of phrases like "Let's move in together," "Why don't we start a family?" and -- using archaic terminology -- "Let's get married."
9. THE "L" WORD: For the first sixty (60) days, both parties agree not to use the phrase "I love you." They may love plants, dogs, cats, cars, concerts, or the way a particular pair of jeans fits, but not each other. Failure by one party to abide by this rule will result in the other party using the "G" word ... "Gone."
10. GROUNDS FOR TERMINATION: Any of the following will be grounds for immediate termination and final dissolution of said relationship:
* Infidelity: Running off at any time to console an ex-girl/boyfriend,
* Ending any argument with the sentence "My ex used to do that same exact thing."
I guess now when in Britain, always remember to take a condom and a lawyer.
"Wouldn't "low conviction rates" suggest that a large number of men are being brought to trial improperly, when they are in fact not guilty?"
Well, maybe that might be true part of the time. Or even half the time. But it's hard to believe it's true 16 out of every 17 times a woman in England or Wales alleges she's been raped, as these numbers suggest. Why would not just some, but the vast majority of women alleging rape in those countries be doing so falsely? Is it possible there are other factors involved?
I can see it now.....a beautiful dinner....some red wine....Marvin Gaye on the Bose speakers singing "Let's Get it On".... and then those magical words burst forth like fruit from the cornucopia.
"Look baby, we gonna hump?"
Other than a breathtakingly vicious nature on the part of the accusers, I have no idea.
Is it possible there are other factors involved?
What "other factors" did you have in mind?
Yeah. Then you still have to make sure that it's the type of woman who screams "Yes! Yes! Yes!" at the right time instead of "No! No! No!" (I've been with both kinds!)
Beats me. It does seem an extremely low conviction rate, though. Maybe British prosecutors are bad at handling such cases, or the court system doesn't take them seriously. Check out this URL, comparing conviction rates in the US and the UK. graph on the upper right.
Woops--forgot the URL:
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/html/cjusew96/cpp.htm
US Dept of Justice, Bureau of stats.
bump
If this is the case, wouldn't it be more appropriate to reform the criminal justice system in Great Britain?
Where are the 'usual suspect' shrill voices demanding a 'complete overhaul' of rape laws and the criminal justice system in the UK?
Thank you for the link, but is it appropriate to compare the criminal justice system in Great Britain to that of the USA? Their judges wear wigs, after all :-)
Haven't had any for six years? You have my condolences....
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