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Darwin smacked in new U.S. poll (69% of Americans Want alternate theories allowed in class)
WorldnetDaily.Com ^ | 03/07/2006

Posted on 03/07/2006 2:34:37 PM PST by SirLinksalot

Darwin smacked in new U.S. poll

Whopping 69 percent of Americans want alternate theories in classroom

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Posted: March 7, 2006 5:00 p.m. Eastern

© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

A new poll shows 69 percent of Americans believe public school teachers should present both the evidence for and against Darwinian evolution.

The Zogby International survey indicated only 21 percent think biology teachers should teach only Darwin's theory of evolution and the scientific evidence that supports it.

A majority of Americans from every sub-group were at least twice as likely to prefer this approach to science education, the Zogby study showed.

About 88 percent of Americans 18-29 years old were in support, along with 73 percent of Republicans and 74 percent of independent voters.

Others who strongly support teaching the strengths and weaknesses of evolutionary theory include African-Americans (69 percent), 35-54 year-olds (70 percent) and Democrats (60 percent).

Casey Luskin, program officer for public policy and legal affairs with Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture said while his group does not favor mandating the teaching of intelligent design, "we do think it is constitutional for teachers to discuss it precisely because the theory is based upon scientific evidence not religious premises."

The Seattle-based Discovery Institute is the leading promoter of the theory of Intelligent Design, which has been at the center of challenges in federal court over the teaching of evolution in public school classes. Advocates say it draws on recent discoveries in physics, biochemistry and related disciplines that indicate some features of the natural world are best explained as the product of an intelligent cause rather than an undirected process such as natural selection.

"The public strongly agrees that students should be permitted to learn about such evidence," Luskin said.

The Discovery Institute noted Americans also support students learning about evidence for intelligent design alongside evolution in biology class – 77 percent.

Just over half – 51 percent – agree strongly with that. Only 19 percent disagree.

As WorldNetDaily reported, more than 500 scientists with doctoral degrees have signed a statement expressing skepticism about Darwin's theory of evolution.

The statement, which includes endorsement by members of the prestigious U.S. National Academy of Sciences and Russian Academy of Sciences, was first published by the Discovery Institute in 2001 to challenge statements about Darwinian evolution made in promoting PBS's "Evolution" series.

The PBS promotion claimed "virtually every scientist in the world believes the theory to be true."


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To: Elsie
How did they ever EVOLVE theirselves into THIS perdicament?

Bad luck?

621 posted on 03/08/2006 12:52:47 PM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: Thatcherite

Don't worry. I'm sure I've committed it too, whatever it is.

Standby for sermon   [or crap; depending on your point of view...]

 

NIV Matthew 12:31
  And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.

 

 

So, just what IS this - blasphemy against the Spirit - anyway?

 

Matthew Henry, in his commentary, said the following...

Matt 21:31-32  Here is a gracious assurance of the pardon of all sin upon gospel terms. Christ herein has set an example to the sons of men, to be ready to forgive words spoken against them. But humble and conscientious believers, at times are tempted to think they have committed the unpardonable sin, while those who have come the nearest to it, seldom have any fear about it. We may be sure that those who indeed repent and believe the gospel, have not committed this sin, or any other of the same kind; for repentance and faith are the special gifts of God, which he would not bestow on any man, if he were determined never to pardon him; and those who fear they have committed this sin, give a good sign that they have not. The trembling, contrite sinner, has the witness in himself that this is not his case.

I found a pretty good explanation online: http://members.tripod.com/~robertwells/unforgivable.html

 

 


622 posted on 03/08/2006 12:57:24 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Right Wing Professor

We talkin' 80% proof?? ;^)


623 posted on 03/08/2006 12:58:26 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
I read the most amazing statistics this morning...

The really amazing statistic is hidden in this article; that 31% of the people don't wish for students to have a balanced understanding of the issue.

624 posted on 03/08/2006 12:59:54 PM PST by HarleyD ("A man's steps are from the Lord, How then can man understand his way?" Prov 20:24 (HNV))
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To: js1138
Just out of curiosity, which is which?

Time will tell...

(Time is always the answer to anything related to "E")

625 posted on 03/08/2006 1:00:24 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Right Wing Professor
If we had a videotape of Monica servicing Bill, that would have been proof they'd had sex.

Not if it came from ILM or PIXAR!

626 posted on 03/08/2006 1:01:38 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie
Thanks. I've read the Bible.

I adopted that tagline from a convert from Islam who was one of the Iranian terrorists who helped the Ayatollah return from exile and was instrumental in setting up the government.

He is now an evangelical Christian and feels Islam is the anti-Christ.

It works for me. But I expected someone to call me on it in just the manner you have done.

Thanks for fulfilling prophecy!;)

627 posted on 03/08/2006 1:03:32 PM PST by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American (Islam is the Anti-Christ)
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To: Elsie
"SCIENCE, as a whole, is TRUTH on Earth."

Science is the closest approximation to the truth* as is humanly possible.

*For all non-absolute definitions.

628 posted on 03/08/2006 1:08:38 PM PST by b_sharp (Come visit my new home page.)
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To: Elsie
We talkin' 80% proof?? ;^)

If you HAVE to water it down.

629 posted on 03/08/2006 1:14:08 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
In 1990 it wasn't false. There was no evidence that the pine existed still. Scientists altered their position when knew information was uncovered.

Oh, but you are mistaken, statement #1 was as false in 1990 as it is today. The evidence, just like the fingerprint on the light switch, was sitting over there in Austrailia just waiting to be found. Those claiming extinction just hadn't looked in the right places...
630 posted on 03/08/2006 1:14:41 PM PST by darbymcgill (FRevolution: The science of mutating concepts and definitions while tap dancing)
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To: TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
But I expected someone to call me on it ...

MY 'calling', as I see it, is to shed a bit of Light into the world of various assumptions.

MANY folks have heard some of the terms we use, all their lives, but do not have a clue as where to find the straight skinny, so to speak.

So, you get what the Bible says (that is, if I can find it... ;^)

631 posted on 03/08/2006 1:19:16 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie

Sorry about snapping...but the truth of the matter is that regardless of how much detail I give you, you will remain unconvinced.

You believe in Creation, which is faith in the words written in the Bible, faith is defined as the belief in something sans physical proof of its existence.

I can't show you anything that will move you away from your belief in something that you've never seen, because your belief will always reject the reality of what you see, and that's fine with me.

I believe in something other than you do on this subject; I am not only perfectly comfortable with my beliefs, but in my relationship with the Creator.

That's all...I just believe in something other than what you believe in.


632 posted on 03/08/2006 1:20:22 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: b_sharp; Elsie
Science is the closest approximation to the truth* as is humanly possible.

*For all non-absolute definitions.


Thanks b_sharp for that clarification... now I can tell Elsie I completely agree and thank him for his #610....
633 posted on 03/08/2006 1:20:55 PM PST by darbymcgill (FRevolution: The science of mutating concepts and definitions while tap dancing)
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To: Elsie

For instance: you saw NOTHING about 666 in the definition of Anti-Christ.

(Whole different subject)


634 posted on 03/08/2006 1:21:20 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie
"Then this PROOF should be easy to replicate."

It's easy to demonstrate, and it's been done.

Some don't believe that it leads to the conclusion that others believe it does.

635 posted on 03/08/2006 1:23:36 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Elsie
"Evolution isn't predictive" in no way contradicts the fact that predictions can be made using the theory of evolution."

"OKKkkkkkaaay......."

Evolution is not predictive in the sense that it is a complex system where the determination of the specific future changes in a population can not be predicted with a high level of confidence. The farther into the future we attempt to look the less likely any prediction we make will be accurate.

It is predictive in the sense that we can predict what features we should find in fossils that fit in between two others, what DNA sequences will tend to look like given two related organisms, what a specific mechanism will produce if given a controlled environment. This last is highly important since it gives us verification that during controlled experiments evolutionary mechanisms do work and allows us to predict what we should find in nature.

636 posted on 03/08/2006 1:23:54 PM PST by b_sharp (Come visit my new home page.)
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To: SirLinksalot
"Intelligent design" may be interesting as theology, but as science it is a fraud.
~Charles Krauthammer
637 posted on 03/08/2006 1:24:13 PM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth-Estate is a Fifth-Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
There is no more evidence that humans are evolved from common ancestors to apes ...

So how do you explain the fact that people, the other great apes, and no other animals, have precisely the same mutation (a frame shift) in the gene for an enzyme needed to make ascorbic acid (vitamin C)?

638 posted on 03/08/2006 1:25:14 PM PST by Virginia-American
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To: Elsie
"So, you get what the Bible says (that is, if I can find it... ;^)"

Fair enough.

I understand the frustration of people who think they know something about the Bible but don't.

If you have a chance, check out ExodusFromDarkness.com. It's the Site of Dr. Daniel Shayesteh, the former Islamofascist turned evangelical I mentioned. He's a wonderful, gentle man now, and gives all the glory to Christ.

639 posted on 03/08/2006 1:26:02 PM PST by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American (Islam is the Anti-Christ)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Sorry about snapping...but the truth of the matter is that regardless of how much detail I give you, you will remain unconvinced.

You believe in Creation, which is faith in the words written in the Bible, faith is defined as the belief in something sans physical proof of its existence. I can't show you anything that will move you away from your belief in something that you've never seen, because your belief will always reject the reality of what you see, and that's fine with me.

I didn't mean for you to try to give me 'enough data' to change my mind; I was looking into how YOU were convinced one way, and not trying to explain how I am convinced the other.

For me, I WAS a believer in E, before I got asked a guestion I could not answer.

640 posted on 03/08/2006 1:26:20 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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