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8,000 desert during Iraq war
Yahoo! News ^ | 3/7/06 | Bill Nichols

Posted on 03/07/2006 8:23:23 AM PST by libertarianPA

Edited on 03/07/2006 9:58:14 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: armedforces; citizensoldier; deserters; iraqwar; treason
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To: Coop

LOL...I will bet the poor guy never reached her...they probably had some men with shiny shoes pulling him onto the pier (read: Marines)

We all thought it was funny at the time, but when I look back, it is just sad. Military life is tough on relationships.


41 posted on 03/07/2006 9:01:39 AM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: libertarianPA

Desertion rate in the Mexican Army is near 10%, and they aren't fighting in Iraq!

¿Por qué es eso, abogados?


42 posted on 03/07/2006 9:01:59 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (Liberals-beyond your expectations!)
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To: libertarianPA
8,000 desert during Iraq war

Title is misleading since it seems to indicate that ALL desertions are from the Iraq Theater, not the overall scope of the US military around the world.

I think most of the desertions are probably far from the war.

43 posted on 03/07/2006 9:02:17 AM PST by Former Dodger ( "Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." --Einstein)
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To: Calpernia

My feeling is that if someone is willing to accept a less than Honorable Discharge to get out of the military, then we don't want him there anyway. Do you have a link to that report?


44 posted on 03/07/2006 9:03:47 AM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: Coop
Imagine, if you will, an America where the news media actually rooted for our side.

I just can't imagine such a thing.

We just now came from the chow hall where #$%! CNN was on the big screen. That moron, Anish What's-His-Face-Lying-Scumbag was giving his daily Iraq-Gloom-and-Doom report (he had to kind of scrape for it today; it's been relatively quiet, but he managed to make everything look dark and hopeless anyway) and he started going on about how the Iraqis need unity in order for their government to succeed. Then, he said

"Unity here has been elusive."

Every one of us at my table reacted. "WHAT???" "Where is he getting THAT???" "What kinds of drugs is HE on??" "Where is he really??"

He was just flat out lying. Like they always do. This was just about 45 minutes ago. I'm sure he'll pour on some more lies on the 10:00 broadcast.

45 posted on 03/07/2006 9:08:46 AM PST by Allegra (Please pray for peace in Iraq.)
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To: rlmorel
Military life is tough on relationships.

It is, but that one sounded doomed no matter what. For his wife to bring some lover to the pier as he left on deployment to serve his nation was cold and calculated. This wasn't simply loneliness or separation anxiety.

46 posted on 03/07/2006 9:09:23 AM PST by Coop (FR= a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Allegra

10:00?!??! It's after noon here, you slacker! ;-)


47 posted on 03/07/2006 9:11:23 AM PST by Coop (FR= a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: 2banana

Thanks for posting this. I couldn't remember the total number of personel serving (and I knew someone would post it) but that's almost Zero desertions! The armed forces should be proud I should think. A 99% non-desertion rate must be a record of some type,.


48 posted on 03/07/2006 9:12:34 AM PST by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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To: libertarianPA
What was it that Henry V said Westmoreland????

No, faith, my coz, wish not a man from England. God's peace! I would not lose so great an honour As one man more methinks would share from me For the best hope I have. O, do not wish one more! Rather proclaim it, Westmoreland, through my host, That he which hath no stomach to this fight, Let him depart; his passport shall be made, And crowns for convoy put into his purse; We would not die in that man's company That fears his fellowship to die with us.

49 posted on 03/07/2006 9:14:03 AM PST by mware (A teacher of geography.)
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To: libertarianPA

Interesting...


50 posted on 03/07/2006 9:14:40 AM PST by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: Jim Pelosi

"I have to think that most of these "desertions" are reserve soldiers, sailors, marines, airmen, etc. not showing up or refusing to oblige their contracts for active duty."

Some of these desertions are Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, and Marines who are facing Court Martial or NJP for other offences, and they don't want to face the music. My unit had two of these in Jan. They were being prosecuted for fraud, and never returned from the New Years 96.


51 posted on 03/07/2006 9:24:13 AM PST by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: libertarianPA
"Since fall 2003, 4,387 Army soldiers, 3,454 Navy sailors and 82 Air Force personnel have deserted."

The high Navy numbers (other than Marine medics there are few Navy losses in the WOT) would seem to very strongly indicate that there is no correlation between combat in the WOT and desertions, assuming that is what the MSM intend to say. In fact, if there are a lot fewer total people in the Navy vs. the Army, the Navy might want to lower the desertion rate by finding ways to get more of their personnel on the ground in Iraq, to boost their morale.

52 posted on 03/07/2006 9:27:47 AM PST by LZ_Bayonet
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To: libertarianPA
Instead of the headline reading “8,000 desert during Iraq war”. shouldn’t it read “Desertion numbers have dropped since 9/11.
53 posted on 03/07/2006 9:28:55 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: cripplecreek
Gee, I wonder when the last death penalty was imposed causing them to feel the need to include it?

There were 21,049 soldiers sentenced for desertion during WWII, with 49 of them receiving death sentences. However, only one death sentence was carried out - Edward Donald Slovik.
54 posted on 03/07/2006 9:33:06 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: oldleft

I'd as much rely on "Yahoo News" as on the "National Inquirer".


55 posted on 03/07/2006 9:35:02 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: tonycavanagh
After you have been gone 24 hours, then you can be officially listed as AWOL. Up until 23:59, you are simply failing to be at your appointed place of duty. Both are Article 86, UCMJ offenses. You cannot be listed as a deserter until you have been missing for 30 consecutive days. On day 31, the unit then drops you from the unit rolls as a deserter. You have to be carried on what we used to call "the Morning Report" many, many years ago, then the new thing came into being, SIDPERS. I don't know what they call it now, as I have been retired for 14 years now (March 1, 1992). But, I assume it is still the same 30-days and dropped from the rolls. The unit cannot replace you until you are dropped. So, for those 30 days, they cannot even request a replacement for the missing person.

Once you are gone 30-days and listed as a deserter, you can be arrested by any law enforcement agency for desertion and returned to military control Normally, most of these people were punished by Article 15, UCMJ, non-judicial punishment, stripped of rank, fined, and then put under some type of Administrative Chapter for getting rid of them and getting them out of the military.

It is usually some type of personal, financial, or failure to adapt problem, rather than what the leftist press wants you to believe that they ran off for anti-war crap. Now, some may have ran off simply because maybe they had been deployed over to Iraq once, twice, etc., and just were not going again. It was not because they were anti-war, but rather they were anti-having to go overseas and serve again, without girl friend or mama to baby sit their sorry asses.

56 posted on 03/07/2006 9:36:30 AM PST by RetiredArmy (America is doomed to be socialist. Way too many people with palms pointed up!)
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To: Jim Pelosi

During my career, I had only one man dropped from the roles as a deserter. He decided he needed an extended vacation, but forgot that it included a 31 day month. He reported back late on what he thought was the 30th day – it was the 31st day.
I had the paperwork and MPs waiting as he strolled into my office. He stayed in the area and I had been keeping track of him.


57 posted on 03/07/2006 9:38:05 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: RetiredArmy

See post #57.


58 posted on 03/07/2006 9:42:06 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: cripplecreek
"Gee, I wonder when the last death penalty was imposed causing them to feel the need to include it?"

If I remember correctly I saw a film staring Martin Sheen called Private Slovik (sp?) and I believe it was a docudrama stating that he was the last US soldier shot for desertion, the show was set during WWII.

59 posted on 03/07/2006 9:43:27 AM PST by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: rlmorel

I posted this one:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1582629/posts
Legislators reject bill to reduce drinking age for military


60 posted on 03/07/2006 9:43:57 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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