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Saddam And WMD: Russia's Role
Investor's Business Daily ^ | 3/7/2006 | Editor

Posted on 03/07/2006 8:22:45 AM PST by Isara

..frenzy over the Katrina tapes stands in stark contrast to..disinterest of Democrats and the media in the Saddam tapes showing Iraq had WMD and Bush didn't lie.

...just before Operation Iraqi Freedom both Israeli intelligence and U.S. satellite surveillance detected large amounts of military material moving from Iraq to Syria.

...not a panicked move...it was a well-planned operation conducted with the assistance of Russia, to which Iraq was $8 billion in debt, much of it for weapons. Russia was worried about what coalition forces might find.

According to John Shaw, former deputy undersecretary for international technology security, the WMD were moved out of Iraq by Russian special forces (Spetsnaz) units. "While in Iraq," Shaw states, "I uncovered detailed information that Spetsnaz units shredded records and moved all WMD and specified advanced munitions out of Iraq to Syria and Lebanon."

Former top Romanian spy chief Ion Mihai Pacepa has written about the existence of "a standard Soviet operating procedure for deep-sixing weapons of mass destruction" in Soviet client states. The plan, which the Romanians called "Sarindar," or "emergency exit," was initially designed for Libya — a Reagan administration target — and implemented in Iraq.

According to an article by David Dastych in the Canada Free Press, the operation in Iraq was carried out by Russia's GRU (Military Intelligence), Spetsnaz (Special Troops) and Russian military and civilian logistic personnel in Iraq under the command of two veteran ex-Soviet generals — Vladislav Achalov and Igor Maltsev, operating under the guise of being civilian consultants.

Photos taken in early 2003 show Achalov and Maltsev receiving awards from Iraqi Defense Minister Sultan Hashim Akhmed in a building destroyed by U.S. cruise missiles.

What were they receiving awards for just days before coalition forces began their rush to Baghdad? Achalov reportedly said he "didn't fly to Baghdad to drink coffee."

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TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: achalov; bushlied; igormaltsev; ionmihaipacepa; iraq; jackshawjohnshaw; johnajackshaw; johnashaw; johnshaw; lebanon; maltsev; pacepa; russia; sarindar; shaw; spetsnaz; syria; vladislavachalov; wmd; wmds
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To: infidel29
re :My only guess is Washington wants to keep good relations with Russia considering all their stockpiles of nukes that they could be convinced to sell to radical Islamists.

When we stood up to Communism we had to make lots of dirty shady deals with a lot of dirty shady individuals.

Many of these individuals and groups are todays enemy in the War on Terror.

I wonder how many dirty shade individuals who we are using or need today as allies will be tomorrows enemy, in the next war after this.

41 posted on 03/08/2006 3:43:56 AM PST by tonycavanagh (We got plenty of doomsayers where are the truth sayers)
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To: justa-hairyape
re :The only logical situation that makes sense is that the WMD were always under control of the Russians.

Now that is an interesting thought, but if this is true for Iraq is it true for North Korea and Iran.

If I really was one of those conspiracy speculators I could say that the whole WMD was manufactured by Russia to cause America to overstretch herself as the old Soviet Union did.

After all if there is a Civil War in Iraq and American troops start getting killed in huge numbers would it lead to a Strong isolationist movement in America.

Actually from my experience no one could really carry out a plan this complex.

42 posted on 03/08/2006 3:48:28 AM PST by tonycavanagh (We got plenty of doomsayers where are the truth sayers)
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To: tonycavanagh

Russia would have to in that case presume America would fight wars as stupidly as Russia did (Not to mention have their own mafia selling weapons to their enemies).

Half the reason Russia did so poorly in Chechnya and Afghanistan is their own mafia arming to forces of the enemy.


43 posted on 03/08/2006 5:35:07 AM PST by x5452
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To: x5452
Afghanistan was and Chechnya is a tar pit the Russians could of done without.

Whose to say Iraq and Iran wont be for us.

And before I get lots of irate freepers flaming me.

Its not over yet and we are no where near a stable Iraq, I wont say it cant happen but we have some distance to go and a lot can happen before then.

44 posted on 03/08/2006 7:17:48 AM PST by tonycavanagh (We got plenty of doomsayers where are the truth sayers)
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To: tonycavanagh

As a plus we don't border Iraq or Iran, and we also have things like unmanned drones that releive preassure on troops. We also don't have mafia working within our own army to give weapons to the enemy.


45 posted on 03/08/2006 7:29:15 AM PST by x5452
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To: x5452
re :As a plus we don't border Iraq or Iran, and we also have things like unmanned drones that relieve pressure on troops. We also don't have mafia working within our own army to give weapons to the enemy.

Plus at least we are taking into account winning the hearts and minds of the local population, something the Russians never attempted.

46 posted on 03/08/2006 9:51:23 AM PST by tonycavanagh (We got plenty of doomsayers where are the truth sayers)
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To: justa-hairyape

Yeah, makes sense. Russia's been cozy w/ Saddam for a long time. Must be one hellava Russia/WMD connection if Bush is willing to get whacked around so much by the Dim/MSM crowd.


47 posted on 03/08/2006 9:52:12 AM PST by citizen (Yo W! Read my lips: No Amnistia by any name! And the White House has a fence around it!)
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To: aflaak

ping


48 posted on 03/08/2006 2:15:56 PM PST by aflaak
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To: tonycavanagh
I wonder how many dirty shade individuals who we are using or need today as allies...

Or how many of Clinton's skeletons will come out of the graveyard.

49 posted on 03/08/2006 2:58:39 PM PST by infidel29 ("We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." --Benjamin Franklin)
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To: citizen
Must be one hellava Russia/WMD connection if Bush is willing to get whacked around so much by the Dim/MSM crowd.

What does Bush et. al. have to lose ? The historically devastating blows from the once powerful, 'red carpet elite', only seem to cause minor rashes now.

50 posted on 03/08/2006 3:48:19 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: tonycavanagh
Its not over yet and we are no where near a stable Iraq, I wont say it cant happen but we have some distance to go and a lot can happen before then.

What happens within Iraq now may end up being immaterial to what could be be unfolding soon, at least conspiratorially speaking. Bush et. al. have proven they can take the best punches the Left can muster. As of yet, no impeachment proceedings. Logistically, the US and Coalition forces now have all the military support bases they need to take the entire middle east, militarily speaking. Handling the desert trash may of course be yet another story.

The question is will we go on the offensive before or after the first terrorist WMD attack ?

51 posted on 03/08/2006 3:57:59 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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