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Yale: Taliban Yes; US Military No
Sierra Times ^ | 3/7/2006 | Jim Kouri, CPP

Posted on 03/07/2006 5:28:10 AM PST by FerdieMurphy

While most American parents can only dream of sending their kids to a first-tier university such as Harvard and Yale, a former ambassador for the oppressive and brutal Afghan Taliban is enrolled at Yale University in New Haven, Connecticut, even though he possesses none of the qualifications to attend such an institution for higher education.

"Yale University enrolls the Taliban's former spokesman as a student, but continues to prohibit other students from organizing a Reserve Officer Training Corps chapter on campus and also seeks to deny students the right to hear from military recruiters about employment opportunities," say members of the student group Young America's Foundation.

Under the guise of alleged sex discrimination as a result of the military's so-called "don't ask, don't tell" policy towards homosexuals, Yale and other universities have blocked their students from partaking of ROTC training on campus.

"Yet Yale University is allowing a member or former member of a group that not only discriminated against gays, but actually stoned them to death," says one outraged Yale student.

On February 26, the New York Times Magazine reported that Yale admitted Sayed Rahmatullah Hashemi, the Deputy Foreign Secretary of the Taliban, into a non-degree program, with a chance to gain full degree status by 2006.

"In some ways I'm the luckiest person in the world," Hashemi told the Times. "I could have ended up in Guantanamo Bay. Instead I ended up at Yale."

Prior to his arrival as a student, Hashemi was imprisoned at Bagram Air Base. He had been a member of the Taliban government, serving both in Afghanistan and in the United States as Second Foreign Secretary and Ambassador-at-Large. Yale has not commented on why the university, which accepts only ten percent of all applicants, granted admission to this former Taliban officer. One Yale official claims it's part of creating diversity on campus, but opponents of having a Taliban officer attend a premier college say that excuse has been used by colleges and universities to invite everyone including cop-killers to their campuses.

Hashemi possesses a 4th grade formal education, never took the SATs and advocated violence against homosexuals. As the mouthpiece for the Taliban, Hashemi advocated the oppression of women, gays and non-Muslims. The Taliban are known associates and allies of Al-Qaeda. Not surprising, one intelligence report indicates Hashemi attended an Al-Qaeda terrorism training camp in Afghanistan.

Yale alumnus, and former Army Captain Flagg Youngblood said, "That my alma mater would embrace an ambassador from one of America's declared and defeated enemies and in the same breath keep ROTC and military recruiters off campus shows where Yale's allegiance falls. Yale's actions show that they consider the US military more evil than the Taliban."

While at Yale in the mid-nineties, Flagg worked with members of Congress and other Yale students and alumni to combat ROTC's second-class status on many campuses across the country. Flagg's frustration with the 70-mile drive to the University of Connecticut in order to participate in ROTC culminated in the passage of the Pombo and Solomon amendments which are currently before the US Supreme Court.

Hashemi's enrollment at Yale was aided by CBS news cameraman Mike Hoover, who developed a friendship with the Taliban government apologist during several trips to Afghanistan, dating back to 1991. According to Hoover, he contacted an attorney in his hometown of Jackson Hole, Wyoming. That attorney, Bob Schuster, who had earned his undergraduate degree at Yale, brought Hashemi to the attention of Richard Shaw, the Dean of Undergraduate Admissions.

According to the Times, Shaw said of his interview with Hashemi, “My perception was,’ It’s the enemy!’ But, the interview with him was one of the most interesting I've ever had. I walked away with a sense: Whoa! This is a person to be reckoned with and who could educate us about the world.”

Yale refuses to comment on how Hashemi's tuition -- almost $160,000 for four years -- is being paid.

John Fund, writing for the Opinion Journal does not view this admission as any great achievement, even though he quotes Richard Shaw as saying that...”another foreign student of Rahmatullah’s [Hashemi's] caliber had applied for special student status. We lost him to Harvard. I didn’t want that to happen again.”

Fund does not agree, saying “This is taking the obsession that US universities have been promoting diversity a bit too far."

However, Yale's response to criticism appeared in their campus newspaper:

"This is our burden to tend to, and there is no better way to develop a clearer understanding of our differences and similarities to the Afghani people than to invite Hashemi to learn in our system. Despite our anxieties, we must maintain the energy and tolerance to seek the origins of other ideologies. If Hashemi's voice were absent from University discourse, we would risk crippling our perception of today's world."

"I suspect they're already mentally crippled on that [Yale] campus and having an official from the Taliban isn't going to change that mental infirmity," says a former Marine combat officer.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: leftwingpinko; militaryhaters; muslimlovers; yale
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Yale admitted Sayed Rahmatullah Hashemi, the Deputy Foreign Secretary of the Taliban, into a non-degree program, with a chance to gain full degree status by 2006.

Why is this terrorist walking around in our country, let alone being "educated" by Yale? Next he'll be telling authorities allah told him to drive an SUV into a group of students.

1 posted on 03/07/2006 5:28:12 AM PST by FerdieMurphy
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To: FerdieMurphy

I want to hear from the feds why this pud is in our country. Doublespeak.


2 posted on 03/07/2006 5:31:30 AM PST by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: FerdieMurphy
"I could have ended up in Guantanamo Bay. Instead I ended up at Yale."

If they'd have given me a vote, I know where he'd be!

3 posted on 03/07/2006 5:32:43 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan

Firing squad!


4 posted on 03/07/2006 5:33:57 AM PST by FerdieMurphy (For English, Press One. (Tookie, you won the Pulitzer and Nobel prizes. Oh, too late.))
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If Hashemi's voice were absent from University discourse, we would risk crippling our perception of today's world."

I forget... did Yale admit Goebbels after WW II? Or Tokyo Rose?

5 posted on 03/07/2006 5:35:54 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: FerdieMurphy
The war crimes of the Taliban are well documented.

Cutting off the fingers of women with nail polish. Allowing no girls to go to schools. Banning of music, kite flying, TV and indoor plumbing. Execution of women during soccer half time for getting raped (adultery). Large scale massacres in Mazar-e Sharif and the Hazeria. Destruction of the Buddhist Statues. Killing anyone (and their village) who converted. Forcing women to wear a head to toe burka. Not allowing women to go outside the house without an escort of a husband or brother. Honor killings. I could go on forever...
6 posted on 03/07/2006 5:36:18 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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...Not allowing women to go outside the house without an escort of a husband or brother. Honor killings. I could go on forever...

Unfortunately, their victims can't. The Taliban is evil. Period.

7 posted on 03/07/2006 5:39:42 AM PST by Loud Mime ("Countdown" - A documentary about Keith Olbermann's dwindling IQ)
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To: FerdieMurphy
On February 26, the New York Times Magazine reported that Yale admitted Sayed Rahmatullah Hashemi, the Deputy Foreign Secretary of the Taliban, into a non-degree program, with a chance to gain full degree status by 2006.

The article states the guy only has a 4th grade education. So how do you earn go from 4th grade education to "full degree status" in less than a year?

I knew they had lowered their academic standards at Yale, but in this case, that would be an understatement.

8 posted on 03/07/2006 5:41:01 AM PST by dawn53
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To: FerdieMurphy
Don't worry everyone .... yale wants those federal $$$$ so yesterdays ruling is going to allow the Military on campus. Perhaps as soon as next week ... who knows. They could always appeal but who would they appeal to? Perhaps another liberal judge in the state.


I could just see that, the liberal judge rules for them on the grounds the SC just didn't understand the case and the SC fires back what part of the ruling didn't the lower court understand? This could go on for years .... but I don't think so. I think this liberal think tank, along with all the other liberal colleges, has been handed their heads in a basket. Money talks and if they want any federal money they are going to have to reverse their high and mighty positions.
9 posted on 03/07/2006 5:43:19 AM PST by Russ_in_NC
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To: FerdieMurphy

The worst of it is that our tax dollars are helping to fund this guy via reduced fees or some such. It's disgusting to the max.


10 posted on 03/07/2006 5:47:32 AM PST by DoughtyOne (If you don't want to be lumped in with those who commit violence in your name, take steps to end it.)
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To: FerdieMurphy
There may be a lot more to this story, we may even have a role assigned to Sayed Rahmatullah Hashemi when he leaves Yale.

After all he was what was considered part of the Taliban intelligentsia.

When we leave Afghanistan we want to leave behind not only a stable country but one that is friendly and has links to the West.

11 posted on 03/07/2006 5:48:08 AM PST by tonycavanagh (We got plenty of doomsayers where are the truth sayers)
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To: FerdieMurphy

I wonder what a background investigation of Richard Shaw would reveal?


12 posted on 03/07/2006 5:51:03 AM PST by Truth29
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To: FerdieMurphy

I guess the MSM was too busy b!tchin about the ports deal to cover this one....


13 posted on 03/07/2006 5:51:13 AM PST by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: tonycavanagh
"After all he was what was considered part of the Taliban intelligentsia.

When we leave Afghanistan we want to leave behind not only a stable country but one that is friendly and has links to the West."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>...........
your statement reminds of the the guy who lived close to Grizzly bears in Alaska, and thought he was communicating with the beasts,,only to be eaten alive with his hapless girl friend as dessert. Idiots all
14 posted on 03/07/2006 5:52:43 AM PST by ConsentofGoverned (if a sucker is born every minute, what are the voters?)
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To: FerdieMurphy

"In some ways I'm the luckiest person in the world," Hashemi told the Times. "I could have ended up in Guantanamo Bay. Instead I ended up at Yale."

Hmmm. Both places DO have a reputation for mental torture...


15 posted on 03/07/2006 5:55:41 AM PST by IGOTMINE (Front Sight. Press. Follow Through. It's a way of life.)
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To: FerdieMurphy

Looks like they'll have no choice but to allow military recruiters on campus though. I'm betting it's just killing them.


16 posted on 03/07/2006 5:57:13 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: ConsentofGoverned
re :your statement reminds of the the guy who lived close to Grizzly bears in Alaska, and thought he was communicating with the beasts.

I love the old home spun philosophy that people come out with when this disagree with you, but have no real idea how to challenge you.

Right stop talking bollox to me, read my profile then come back with a real challenge, or explain to me the following.

1) What do you think we are doing in Afghanistan.

2) What do you think are exit strategy is.

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3) What do you think we should be doing in Afghanistan.

4) What do you think are exit strategy should be.

Come on change my mind about you and impress me

17 posted on 03/07/2006 6:00:27 AM PST by tonycavanagh (We got plenty of doomsayers where are the truth sayers)
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To: tonycavanagh
Here' another boyo:

Never waste your time speaking to a fool. It only confuses the fool and lowers your own standards.
18 posted on 03/07/2006 6:13:29 AM PST by ConsentofGoverned (if a sucker is born every minute, what are the voters?)
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To: FerdieMurphy
"I suspect they're already mentally crippled on that [Yale] campus and having an official from the Taliban isn't going to change that mental infirmity," says a former Marine combat officer.">>>>>>>>>>

Yes, the world of education is suffering from the same ideological malaise. Witness Bennish in Colorado.

That military self protection from Islamofascism is wrong.

BTW, there were thousands in academe who felt the same about the Nazis prior to WWII, prominant men, like British Ambassador Joseph Kennedy, and Charles Limburg. They agreed with the rise of fascism as an exercise of popular freedom

They made the error of overlooking how a fascist movement defines the basic nature of a human being, just as the Yalies are doing now.

The Marine Officer is absolutely correct. And that mental crippledness is nothing new, and its solution is nothing new either.

Joseph Kennedy was wisked off the stage of history by a government that understood what genocide means to freedom.

Charles Limburgh was relegated to being a flight technical advisor on P-38's in the Pacific Theater, where he rotted in obscurity under protest, until the fabrication of his kidnapped son, a sordid footnote of parental homocide by a sick,neglected man.

And so shall Yale and Harvard go.

They are dead places now, with only a lingering aura of halycion days past, when the men and women who went there understood that thoughts are the basis for action, and in themselves are worth little if fundamental, self evident truths about human nature are absent in them.

It's as if the Pope had resigned and enthroned in his stead a piece of fulminating human manure, reputed to be from the body of Christ.

All external signs of truth ignored in some Utopian drastic hope of heaven in our times.

The days of academic dominace of Yale and Harvard are over. Those who value intellect over the diminishing status of their institutional degrees will seek growth and wisdom elsewhere.

19 posted on 03/07/2006 6:26:39 AM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal Flatulence Goes the Hope of the West)
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re :Never waste your time speaking to a fool. It only confuses the fool and lowers your own standards.

LOL since you posted to me at first and then relied with another home spun philosophy you have no real idea about Afghanistan.

Maybe you should of obeyed that philosophy straight away and not wasted both our time, in pointless meaningless rubbish.

20 posted on 03/07/2006 6:32:03 AM PST by tonycavanagh (We got plenty of doomsayers where are the truth sayers)
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