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Please consider the following list of beliefs and end time scenarios and then post which of them would apply to you, or if you believe something else - then please give a short description of what you believe.


1 posted on 03/06/2006 11:29:44 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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79 posted on 03/07/2006 6:24:07 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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Mankind will be virtually destroyed in a holocaust. Survivors will crawl from the ashes. A group of guys will get together, invent a religion and form a hereditary preisthood and put everyone else to work for them. It starts all over from there.


81 posted on 03/07/2006 6:35:07 AM PST by dljordan
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Amillienialism, Catholic.

"There is nothing new under the sun..."


82 posted on 03/07/2006 6:36:04 AM PST by Rutles4Ever
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My youthful training was in classical Amillennialism.
I was told we were living in the millennium,
I saw the error in that as Satan's chain seemed to be too long.
There was not no joy.

After many years of study,
I now take the entire Holy Word of G-d very seriously,
I have come to the :

Dispensational
Pre-Tribulation Rapture
Pre-millennialism
position.

b'shem Y'shua
83 posted on 03/07/2006 6:43:15 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Trust in YHvH forever, for the LORD, YHvH is the Rock eternal. (Isaiah 26:4))
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Big Crunch - Here's a question. Why preempt the categories and consider this beautiful and complicated, machine which requires incalculable amounts of physical energy to operate at all, the result of a bunch of random dice rolls?
85 posted on 03/07/2006 7:27:08 AM PST by .cnI redruM (We need John Wayne; not Brokeback Mountain.)
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..put me in the Dispensational Premillennial and Pre-Tribulation Rapture camp, in that I believe it is the most defendable if one accepts Plenary (complete) Inspiration of the Bible and a Historical / Grammatical (literal) mode of interpretation...


86 posted on 03/07/2006 8:06:12 AM PST by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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Historical Premillennialism comes closest to what I believe.


87 posted on 03/07/2006 8:25:32 AM PST by Supernatural (Lay me doon in the caul caul groon, whaur afore monie mair huv gaun)
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Amillennialism, Roman Catholic. "The heavens will vanish like smoke, and the earth will wear out like a garment."

Basically: there will be no more time and space - but we will be in the presence of He who created time and space. The walls separating us from true, uncreated Reality will tumble down. There are simply no words for this - eye has not seen, nor ear has heard, what God has prepared for His Faithful.


91 posted on 03/07/2006 9:31:36 AM PST by agere_contra
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Someday God will change the channel.


94 posted on 03/07/2006 9:44:00 AM PST by bmwcyle (We got permits, yes we DO! We got permits, how 'bout YOU?;))
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Pretrib rapture.


95 posted on 03/07/2006 10:19:04 AM PST by swmobuffalo (the only good terrorist is a dead one)
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It'll end when Jack dies. :~D


97 posted on 03/07/2006 10:35:13 AM PST by HairOfTheDog (Hobbit Hole knives for soldiers! www.freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
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My pastor back in the 80s used the phrase, "Pan-Millenialism: It will all pan out in the end", with regards to whether the Rapture occurs before, halfway through, or after the 7-year Tribulation. Something about my personality or psyche is such that I have never felt a compunction to definitively come up with just exactly how I stand on my expectations for the return of Jesus Christ and the Rapture of the Church.
 
I do know, having lost to death one particular family member who was very dear to me and who I still miss everyday, that I cherish 
 
I Thessalonians Chapter 4:
 
 
13 But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.
15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.
 
 
I think whether Jesus returns this week, this month, this year, this decade, this century, or not for another 500 years, my job is to "know His voice" and to obey the Bible. And whether I have already come to the end of my lifetime when He finally returns or whether it happens during my life, the important thing is that I have trusted Him to forgive my sins, obeyed Him, and followed after Him. Loving Him and loving my fellow man each day is the focus of my life. With His help I will continue in this way till I draw my final breath.
 
His coming is as certain as the dawn. He is the KING of kings and LORD of lords and His kingdom will not end.
 
Without faith it is impossible to please God.
 
 
 
Thanks,
Jocko Manning
 
 
 
 
 
P.S.   For those reading this thread who don't know a whole lot about religion or theology, may I suggest a book?
 
 
My Descent Into Death 
 
by Howard Storm
 
 
One man's experience with death and the hereafter.  
 
http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q3AF411CC
 
 
 
jm
 

99 posted on 03/07/2006 11:09:26 AM PST by JockoManning (http://www.biblegateway.com)
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Atheism:Agnosticism:

Endless Expansion The universe never quits expanding but reaches maximum entropy killing everything anyway

100 posted on 03/07/2006 11:28:04 AM PST by WildHorseCrash
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His Kingdom will have no end...


102 posted on 03/07/2006 11:41:20 AM PST by La Enchiladita (Don't get me started!)
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Am, RC.

"Someday some of them say that our hearts
will beat like the wheels of a fast train
going 'round the world

Some say we'll be together
Some say for a very long time
Some of them will say a very long time"

-- "Book of Brilliant Things", Simple Minds


105 posted on 03/07/2006 2:02:49 PM PST by StAnDeliver
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106 posted on 03/07/2006 2:47:02 PM PST by restornu (examining these parts/patterens that they could then be put back together to make wholes-Gestalt)
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You forgot only one of the Christian views:
Panmillennialism -- It'll all pan out in the end.

For the record: I lean toward a pre-trib model, but think the jury's still out on whether it's that or mid-trib. Post-trib would have the saved bouncing up and then right back down again for the Millennium, so that gets no traction with me.

Ultimately, though, my own personal opinion is that everything will come to an end, at last, when all of the "isms" become "wasms".


108 posted on 03/07/2006 5:54:08 PM PST by HKMk23 (Tengo una remera del Che y no se por que.)
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Amillennialism, Roman Catholic


109 posted on 03/07/2006 6:15:48 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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Ask not for whom everything ends, it ends for everything,
or something like that.
Personally I'm going to meditate on compassion and hope for the best.


110 posted on 03/07/2006 6:23:19 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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Obviously, it's all going to end as soon as I stop waking up.

Y'all better be nice to me.


111 posted on 03/07/2006 6:23:22 PM PST by NicknamedBob (INTJ, of course -- Why'd you have to ask?)
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