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ABC EXCLUSIVE: Iraq Weapons -- Made in Iran?
ABC News ^ | March 6 2006 | BRIAN ROSS, JILL RACKMILL and RICHARD ESPOSITO

Posted on 03/06/2006 1:34:45 PM PST by jmc1969

U.S. military and intelligence officials tell ABC News that they have caught shipments of deadly new bombs at the Iran-Iraq border.

They are a very nasty piece of business, capable of penetrating U.S. troops' strongest armor.

What the United States says links them to Iran are tell-tale manufacturing signatures — certain types of machine-shop welds and material indicating they are built by the same bomb factory.

"The signature is the same because they are exactly the same in production," says explosives expert Kevin Barry. "So it's the same make and model."

U.S. officials say roadside bomb attacks against American forces in Iraq have become much more deadly as more and more of the Iran-designed and Iran-produced bombs have been smuggled in from the country since last October.

"I think the evidence is strong that the Iranian government is making these IEDs, and the Iranian government is sending them across the border and they are killing U.S. troops once they get there," says Richard Clarke, former White House counterterrorism chief and an ABC News consultant. "I think it's very hard to escape the conclusion that, in all probability, the Iranian government is knowingly killing U.S. troops."

U.S. intelligence officials say Iran is using the bombs as a way to drive up U.S. casualties in Iraq but without provoking a direct confrontation.

"They penetrate the armor of an M1 Abrams tank," Clarke says. "They're shape charges. They go through anything, and they are very lethal."

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: actofwar; axisofevil; clarke; duh; iran; iraq; outpostsoftyranny; richardclark; weapons
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To: buwaya

Sorry to post to you twice back-to-back, but I found this and thought you might be interested:
http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/994966/posts


41 posted on 03/06/2006 2:09:40 PM PST by KJC1 (Getting the facts before flipping out is generally a sound idea)
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To: KarlInOhio

"And have been since November 4, 1979."

Time to pay them back....with interest!


42 posted on 03/06/2006 2:17:29 PM PST by fourmation599
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To: digger48

The Iranian bombs are being stopped at the Iraqi-Iran border. We are talking about a country deliberatly providing aid to our enemy. That makes us, technically, at war with them.


43 posted on 03/06/2006 2:22:00 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: digger48

Nope.


44 posted on 03/06/2006 2:25:54 PM PST by nopardons
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To: klopek89

No, but shouting at us isn't going to solve the situation.


46 posted on 03/06/2006 2:32:45 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: jmc1969

Rock N' Roll! Call it Operation Hulegu.


47 posted on 03/06/2006 2:33:45 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: klopek89

In due time. If we do it now.... We will lose Iraq and Iran all together. Not only will the Sunni be fighting us, but all Shiite will then be called to arms in Iraq, since Iran is the Shiite Holy place and financers for the extreme Shiites against the Sunni.


48 posted on 03/06/2006 2:35:02 PM PST by jmpmstr4u2 (CEO; 72 Virgin dating service, (We'll set you up))
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To: jmpmstr4u2

The US could simply pay Iran back in kind by training and supplying Kurdish agents to blow up Iranian military and nuclear facilities.


49 posted on 03/06/2006 2:38:53 PM PST by jmc1969
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To: tcrlaf
"Until the American left realizes we are actually fighting a war for THIER very survival...."

Nope. Unlike us, within their death cult they would happily die as long as they can take us with them.

50 posted on 03/06/2006 2:41:18 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (The Prophet Muhammed, Piss Be Upon Him)
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To: jmc1969

Now, THAT... I like....lol


51 posted on 03/06/2006 2:42:38 PM PST by jmpmstr4u2 (CEO; 72 Virgin dating service, (We'll set you up))
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To: jmc1969

Yes the President could and should go on national tv to explain the Iranian threat but he should not issue an ultimatum. Ultimata only put us in a box.


52 posted on 03/06/2006 2:45:49 PM PST by charleywhiskey
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To: KJC1

The further discussion states that the Polish government accepted that these missiles were pre-1990. Who knows whether that was true.

Its also possible that much equipment was supplied via third parties, cut-outs, and "illegally" from third-country stocks. The US did in fact supply Iran with missiles and spare parts in the 1980's that way. It kept the Iranian airforce viable.

It is very difficult to prove that a government is doing this sort of thing deliberately.


53 posted on 03/06/2006 2:55:21 PM PST by buwaya
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To: bnelson44

"The Iranian bombs are being stopped at the Iraqi-Iran border. We are talking about a country deliberatly providing aid to our enemy. That makes us, technically, at war with them."

That's not news. The big news is that:
IRAN IS AT WAR AGAINST IRAQ!


54 posted on 03/06/2006 3:04:04 PM PST by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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To: jmc1969

Why not simply go before an open session of Congress and ask for a direct declaration of war on Iran? Merely show the evidence and put all the burden on Congress. That's what our Constitution provides anyway.

What Congressman wants to go back home and explain why he or she is condoning the deliberate killing of our troops by another nation? That seems to me a deliberate act of war. Why are we holding back? What's in it for us? I can see none. Let's get it on.


55 posted on 03/06/2006 3:14:30 PM PST by RichardW
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To: jmc1969
And some moron was trying to tell me most of the insurgents were Iraqi and thatreports of Iranian SF being caught by US troops was "bunk"!

Tell me another one pal!

56 posted on 03/06/2006 3:36:33 PM PST by Braak (The US Military, the real arms inspectors!)
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To: jmc1969

Yeah sure, the next thing you know they will try say that Syria is involved.


57 posted on 03/06/2006 4:11:40 PM PST by RetSignman (( HELP...I'm trapped between these curved things))
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To: jmc1969

I proper response might be to take the Iranian bombs, put them into the hands of the Peshmerga with connections to the Kurdish uprising in N. Iran and give them coordinates and a GPS locator. There have been several bombings in N Iraq over the last few months, maybe...?


58 posted on 03/06/2006 4:49:57 PM PST by metalcor
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To: klopek89
Good evening.
"Are you confident things will calm down anytime soon with Iran being an agitator?"

Soon is a relative term but I'm confident we will win.

It will likely be bloody and it may take time, but we will win in Iraq and in Iran.

We will do it by conducting the war intelligently, with courage, fortitude and by supporting our war fighters.

Iraq is fixing itself slowly and the loonies in Iran are more noise than fire. Their days are numbered. The only question is who will be first, the Baathists in Syria or the mad mullahs in Iran.

Michael Frazier
59 posted on 03/06/2006 5:23:47 PM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: jmc1969

Here's a thought....Lets return them. We have Predators and B52s that would make it fun to return these bombs to sender!


60 posted on 03/06/2006 6:07:18 PM PST by Proud Conservative2 (As soon as you settle for less, you are stuck with less.)
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