Posted on 03/05/2006 3:39:00 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
Hamas' visit to Moscow at the weekend couldn't have been more successful. The terror group that now controls the Palestinian Authority managed to gain international legitimacy from one of the world's leading powers and held off all efforts to persuade it to drop its core beliefs and recognize the Jewish state.
That is assuming there were any such efforts.
Reuters reports that on Friday:
"Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov told a Hamas delegation it must recognise Israel's right to exist and abide by interim peace deals."
But according to Mohammed Nazzal, a senior member of Hamas' delegation who spoke to local reporters in the Russian capital Sunday:
"Russia did not call on us to recognize Israel."
Yevgeni Primakov, a former Russian minister and current Middle East expert, lent credibility to Nazzal's claim when he concurred with the views of Russia's legislature during an interview with Turkey's Zaman online newspaper:
"It would be wrong to disregard Hamas as a terrorist organization. It would also be wrong to ask the faction to admit that Israel is an independent state."
Hamas leader Khaled Mashal also told Reuters he had rebuffed a request by his hosts to disarm the group's "military wing," insisting it must remain intact for future attacks on Israel's Jews.
"We have made clear to the officials in Russia that the armed wing...will resist the occupation [sic] and defend the whole land."
Meanwhile, Hamas, in the words of senior official Abu Marzouk, is "breaking the walls of the siege" imposed on it by Israel, the United States and the European Union.
The terror group will further entrench itself as a legitimate player in world politics during upcoming visits to Turkey and South Africa.
Abu Marzouk said several European nations are also holding behind-the-scenes talks with Hamas, despite the continent's "official" position.
Israel would be fully justified to simply bulldoze Palestine and make a rubbish heap of it. The people voted in a terrorists goverment with complete knowledge of what they were doing. In doing so, they voted for the destruction of Israel. Israel should make a rubbish heap of them and warn other nations who insists on their destruction. There seems to be no other valid option on the table.
"Putin is not stupid. He would never support an organization like Hamas if he didn't think he would get some benefit from them. The whole state visit thing was just to show that he is not under the thumb of the U.S."
That's exactly what he's trying to show. But, the Russians aren't strong enough to pull it off. They still have Chechnya to deal with and no matter what little inroads they gain from playing with Hamas it will all be erased with the first terrorist attack from either group (Chechnya on Russia; Hamas on Israel).
It would be best if the people most threatened by them did it themselves.
So what. Israel does not recognize Hamas as leader of a separate state either. Neither the Israelis nor Palestinians want to have two states. If Bush thinks there should be two states, he better start moving the pile before they kill off each other.
Should we drop the embargo on Cuba and North Korea, then?
The Russians have only been our "ally" in Bush's dreams.
Your posted report is much more believable than what we recently saw from Reuters and others (although those news companies were probably lied-to). It wouldn't be Lavrov's nature to oppose or to be honest about terrorists who attack Israel.
Russian FM To Israel: Chechnya No, Palestine and Iranian Nukes Yes
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1210302/posts
Russians Respect Reason For Terrorism
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1210347/posts
...although it is also very possible that the Hamas delegates lied.
But do read
"What led to the Six Day War in 1967?"
...under the second subtitle:
"Military Provocation By Arab Countries and Soviet Disinformation"
http://palestinefacts.org/pf_1948to1967_sixday_backgd.php
Have you seen pictures of Palestine? It already is a rubbish heap. I don't think Israel has the time to re-arrange the rubbish.
"I will just wait for the comments from the State Department."
You mean Condi?
It's already begun. And will not be over until the face of the entire world has been changed and Allah exposed as Satan and Islam as the Anti-Christ.
You are correct that the U.S. is the strategic cog in Islam's evil plans. That's why every rant of the maniacal mullahs from Israel to Danish cartoons goes back to blaming the U.S.
They know that if they can remove America as an effective force they can impose their will on the rest of the world.
They also know they can count on the liberals in this country to aid their cause.
If the Democrats regain the House in November they and the entire MSM will be completely myopic in their frenzy to impeach the president over whatever they can make stick, allowing the Islamofascists to be "progressive" with their plans like rats in a sewer system.
It would be the best thing that could happen to help move the Islamists toward the world domination Rafsenjani and his band of Iranian barbarians dream of.
I'm on.
Reuters reports that on Friday:
"Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov told a Hamas delegation it must recognise Israel's right to exist and abide by interim peace deals."==
I heard this too.
But according to Mohammed Nazzal, a senior member of Hamas' delegation who spoke to local reporters in the Russian capital Sunday:
"Russia did not call on us to recognize Israel."==
I didn't heard this.
Someone probably lying. Soon see who it is.
Back to the Cold War? Come on, it never stopped... but Russia secured an outstanding strategic triumph: now it is a civil Cold War within the West, and all the costs are passed to the West, too.
Now Russia pursues its imperial goals through proxies (the trans-national progressives, or Western treasonous lefties, as well as Hamas, among them) and the bill is footed by the Ford, Rockefeller, MacArthur, and Charles Stewart Mott Foundations...
Have you ever heard about The Higher Police? This is an informal grouping complied of the elite secret police members and intelligence officers, and it is in charge in Russia from 1825. So when the former prime-minister Primakov (who also used to be the KGB chief) says that his country will assist Israel's enemies, you better take him seriously. He and his likes rule that country.
What about Israeli nukes? Don't forget that suicidal acts are for the common Mooses... the alpha stags too cherish their way of life to get engaged in something which can put it into jeopardy...
Then give it to Primakov. His hands aren't no smelly, but as the former chief of the KGB he knows what he's saying. And he never says anything by coincidence.
Another glimpse regarding the Middle East road to 'peace'.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1588855/posts
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