Hamas walks away with the whole pie - Russia did not call on Hamas to recognize Israel

Jerusalem Newswire ^ | March 5th, 2006 | Ryan Jones

[Tailgunner Joe]

Hamas' visit to Moscow at the weekend couldn't have been more successful. The terror group that now controls the Palestinian Authority managed to gain international legitimacy from one of the world's leading powers and held off all efforts to persuade it to drop its core beliefs and recognize the Jewish state.

That is assuming there were any such efforts.

Reuters reports that on Friday:

"Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov told a Hamas delegation it must recognise Israel's right to exist and abide by interim peace deals."

But according to Mohammed Nazzal, a senior member of Hamas' delegation who spoke to local reporters in the Russian capital Sunday:

"Russia did not call on us to recognize Israel."

Yevgeni Primakov, a former Russian minister and current Middle East expert, lent credibility to Nazzal's claim when he concurred with the views of Russia's legislature during an interview with Turkey's Zaman online newspaper:

"It would be wrong to disregard Hamas as a terrorist organization. It would also be wrong to ask the faction to admit that Israel is an independent state."

Hamas leader Khaled Mashal also told Reuters he had rebuffed a request by his hosts to disarm the group's "military wing," insisting it must remain intact for future attacks on Israel's Jews.

"We have made clear to the officials in Russia that the armed wing...will resist the occupation [sic] and defend the whole land."

Meanwhile, Hamas, in the words of senior official Abu Marzouk, is "breaking the walls of the siege" imposed on it by Israel, the United States and the European Union.

The terror group will further entrench itself as a legitimate player in world politics during upcoming visits to Turkey and South Africa.

Abu Marzouk said several European nations are also holding behind-the-scenes talks with Hamas, despite the continent's "official" position.

[AntiGuv]

"It would be wrong to disregard Hamas as a terrorist organization."

Well, that's true enough. One disregards a terrorist organization at one's peril. It would be best to eradicate Hamas as a terrorist organization..

[zarf]

"It would be wrong to disregard Hamas as a terrorist organization. It would also be wrong to ask the faction to admit that Israel is an independent state."

So the logical conclusion would be that there is only one true solution to this "problem".

War is the answer; an all out blood letting to the finish.

[JudgemAll]

House of cards terror gov laundering operation.

These people are crap. Let's waste them, dang it.

[Salem]

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[Tailgunner Joe]

Russia ping. On or off let me know.

[joesnuffy]

Islam has always allied itself with National or Int'l Socialism...any foe of Christianity or Judaism is a fiend to Islam....

Satan is a god of many heads and facets...He has always been able to present himself in all the false religions..in all the gods and goddesses, social systems and movements..throughout the history of mankind...

He will continue to do so...until Mesiah comes for His own...

[ch.man]

I will just wait for the comments from the State Department. Should be interesting!

[spanalot]

Kremlin is doing its typical perpetuation of brinksmanship - how pathetically reactionary.

[Marine_Uncle]

Thanks for ping. I'm shot from days of interstate travel and parties, will pass. But most of us are not surprised at this I am sure.

[Mind-numbed Robot]

Islam has always allied itself with National or Int'l Socialism...any foe of Christianity or Judaism is a fiend to Islam.... Satan is a god of many heads and facets...He has always been able to present himself in all the false religions..in all the gods and goddesses, social systems and movements..throughout the history of mankind...

He will continue to do so...until Messiah comes for His own...

That is the truth behind the matter but God has left it to us, through free will, to deal with Satan, so we must.

Hamas may be doing the Arafat bit, saying one thing to one group and the opposite to another. The real danger is that Russia or China will form an alliance with Hamas so that an attack on Hamas will be retaliated against by the other. Then we are right back to the cold war.

Otherwise, Hamas can be destroyed. All that is needed now is a provocation.

[The Red Zone]

With the jillions of oil dollars the Moose countries have... if they really truly wanted to smoosh modern Israel in one apocalyptic, if very Pyrrhic, act of warfare they could. I don't think they want to. I think they want to use it as a rage generator to energize action against larger targets such as the USA.

[ScreamingFist]

Apparently, it's a "who's spin do you believe" situation. I wouldn't give hamas credit for scooping dog crap if they showed me their smelly hands.....

The next few weeks should be interesting.

[pleikumud]

Using the "standard" simpletons want to apply to the UAE, re the DPW deal, we should now stop buying oil from Russia because they aren't tough enough on Hamas. Hey, how about stopping all trade with Russia? While we're at it, stop buying oil from Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Venezuela? And China isn't a free society either. Its workers are exploited to produce the stuff we buy, so let's stop all trade with China. Hillary, the rest of the DemoRats, and several idiot Republicans would create a worldwide economic disaster of epic proportions if their "logic" were applied universally.

[Alouette]

"Russia did not call on us to recognize Israel."

Well, yeah, the Russians did, but since when has an Arab ever told the truth?

Putin is not stupid. He would never support an organization like Hamas if he didn't think he would get some benefit from them. The whole state visit thing was just to show that he is not under the thumb of the U.S.

[Thunder90]

And this is while the Kremlin and China recieve high tech weaponry from the Israelis

[FreeReign]

Yevgeni Primakov: "It would be wrong to disregard Hamas as a terrorist organization. It would also be wrong to ask the faction to admit that Israel is an independent state."

Yev, you immediately disregard Hamas as a terrorist organization by calling them a "faction" in your second sentence.

Of course you use the word "faction" to try and soften what you said. Let's see how ridiculous you would sound if you called a spade a spade.

Yev | Paraphrase:It would also be wrong to ask a terrorist organization to admit that Israel is an independent state.

[FreeReign]

Well, yeah, the Russians did, but since when has an Arab ever told the truth?

Hamas, Putin, do I really have to pick which one is telling the truth.

[hatfieldmccoy]

The Russians are acting like Russians, Hamas like Hamas. Neither government is a study in peace and prosperity. Are we surprised these two studies in failure and stupid violence are endorsing stupidity and violence??

[Romanov]

Not good - Primakov reeling up again on the ME. This is a BAD thing.