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Videotaped rape suspect is free
Chicago Sun Times ^ | 3/4/06 | DAN ROZEK AND MONIFA THOMAS

Posted on 03/04/2006 7:23:49 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: Ohioan from Florida

But if the guy is drunk...and the girl is drunk...why is it up to the guy to make that decision? I'm talking about real life....Do you really think a young man should be literally put in jail because he didn't realize the woman who was willingly opening her legs didn't really know what she was doing? Give me a break.


21 posted on 03/04/2006 7:53:39 PM PST by Hildy (The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth)
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To: iPod Shuffle

I guess if in the video she's the one removing their pants and getting on top of them you would have a point. I haven't seen the video, but what you're saying only makes sense if she's the one taking the lead.


22 posted on 03/04/2006 7:55:09 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: iPod Shuffle

He never should have been acquitted of the child pornography charge.


23 posted on 03/04/2006 7:56:04 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

It was a whole pile of animals who deserved each other.
What a waste of taxpayer dollars.


24 posted on 03/04/2006 7:59:07 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: wagglebee
She was videotaped, that is still child pornography regardless of her ability to consent.

If she was consenting to both the sex and the taping, you'd have to charge *her* with manufacturing child porn, too.

BTW, was she charged in connection with her underage drinking of alcohol?

25 posted on 03/04/2006 8:02:28 PM PST by Sloth (Archaeologists test for intelligent design all the time.)
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To: Hildy

I'd have to see the video before I would believe that that's what happened. Maybe it should be a lesser charge, I can't tell. In the article it says that some of the guys were spitting on her after they were done. It sounds to me like she was gang-banged.

FWIW, I have a really hard time believing that she was the taking the leading role here. Common sense just tells me that.


26 posted on 03/04/2006 8:02:58 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Ohioan from Florida

Logic test for your statement:

Would he likewise not be responsible for his behavior since he was also drunk?

Would she have not been responsible if she ran over a person while driving drunk?


27 posted on 03/04/2006 8:04:07 PM PST by ExpatGator (Progressivism: A polyp on the colon politic.)
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To: wagglebee

I would think that providing alcohol to a minor and videotaping a sex act with a minor would both be prosecutable offenses regardless of any "consent".

Even which statutory rape laws are ignored and "Romeo & Juliet" exceptions within the law permit adults and minors below the age of consent to have sex, it is still criminal to videotape the act.

It is why the porn industry is required to obtain information on the subject when they shoot and retain it on file. Did they make the claim that they believed she was over 18?

At least when Rob Lowe videotaped a sexual encounter with a minor, he met her in a 21+ nightclub.


28 posted on 03/04/2006 8:04:38 PM PST by weegee ("Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but Democrats believe every day is April 15.")
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To: wagglebee

They're ALL wrong. Charge them all and convict them all. A crime is a crime.


29 posted on 03/04/2006 8:05:15 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Sloth

"If she was consenting"? No. That is the whole POINT of "age of consent laws". She is too young to sign a contract or to consent. That is what legal guardians are for.


30 posted on 03/04/2006 8:06:08 PM PST by weegee ("Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but Democrats believe every day is April 15.")
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To: wagglebee

They don't mention it, but this was the case where last week the judge almost put the girl in jail for contempt, because she refused to view the videotape in open court and answer questions about it. The whole thing is a travesty, and will undoubtedly send a message to young girls to keep their mouths shet.


31 posted on 03/04/2006 8:07:07 PM PST by Flavius Josephus (The only good muslim is a bad muslim)
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To: Sloth
If she was consenting to both the sex and the taping, you'd have to charge *her* with manufacturing child porn, too.

Considering that the lad in question was 17, you'd have to charge her too, for her role in filming underage boys.

32 posted on 03/04/2006 8:07:14 PM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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To: weegee

The rapist was only 17 at the time, I have a feeling that there was no way to charge with statuatory rape.


33 posted on 03/04/2006 8:08:20 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Flavius Josephus

It did mention it in the beginning of the article.


34 posted on 03/04/2006 8:09:09 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Ohioan from Florida

If she was drunk then she couldn't consent.
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Sorry; but she made a really stupid decision but just because she made a stupid decision while drunk does not mean she couldn't consent.

I don't know all the facts of the case and I haven't (and DO NOT WANT TO) seen the video but they article said "she was participating."

Maybe we should teach our daughters to respect themselves and not get so polluted to the point where they will do things that they will regret later.

Don't get me wrong; I do sympathize with her.


35 posted on 03/04/2006 8:09:13 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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"If she was consenting"?

I've been hearing this more and more lately. "Consent" is not a defense to statutory rape, but juries seem to ignore that.

36 posted on 03/04/2006 8:09:46 PM PST by Flavius Josephus (The only good muslim is a bad muslim)
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To: Lancey Howard; iPod Shuffle; Ohioan from Florida; wagglebee; Hildy
It was a whole pile of animals who deserved each other. What a waste of taxpayer dollars.

We have a winner!

37 posted on 03/04/2006 8:10:52 PM PST by MrEdd (I would have gotten away with it too - if it weren't for those meddling kids and their stupid dog.)
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To: Flavius Josephus

The rapist was only 17 at the time, I have a feeling that statutory rape wasn't an option.


38 posted on 03/04/2006 8:12:23 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: weegee
"If she was consenting"? No. That is the whole POINT of "age of consent laws". She is too young to sign a contract or to consent. That is what legal guardians are for.

So was the alleged rapist -- only a year older.

39 posted on 03/04/2006 8:12:55 PM PST by Sloth (Archaeologists test for intelligent design all the time.)
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To: wagglebee

yep...strike three....
If I were Supreme Ruler, those jerks would be swinging at the end of a very rough rope.


40 posted on 03/04/2006 8:18:45 PM PST by Yorlik803 ( A moose once bit my sister.Mind you, an moose bite can be pretty nasty)
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