Posted on 03/04/2006 7:23:49 PM PST by wagglebee
Stop it.. with that kind of talk you would think that common sense might actually win out here.
Well, now, I know someone who had this identical thing happen to his daughter. They are good people, and care deeply for their daughter. One of her rapists was the son of a prominent school board member. The rape happened on the board member's property.
They got the girl drunk, and abused her. This was supposed to be a gathering of friends, but it went too far. Also the girl was not in their "clique", and was the reason they thought brought on the abuse. {These kids were from "upstanding" families} They put it on a camera phone, and then on-line. I'll tell you something else,too. When I was a young man, I would have NEVER done such a scum bag thing, regardless, booze or no booze. NOBODY DECENT WOULD HAVE DONE THIS . PERIOD. There is just no excuse.
This is a case I have personal knowledge of. I do not have personal knowledge of the one posted, but it sure sounds like the same M.O. You can defend the rapists all you want, and blame everyone else, I don't care. But I think they were scumbag rapists anyhow, and my opinion sure ain't gonna change, nor is my stance toward these kind of people.
Yeah buddie I'm defending rapists.
There is a key to your maddness though.. you said "They got the girl drunk."
Like they tied her up and made her drink the alcohol.
It just doesn't fly... I'm not saying these guys aren't scumbags.. what I'm saying is that it sounds to me from the article that they don't deserve jail time. I can only imagine these 12 jurors saw it the same way.
Yeah, well drinking shouldn't get you sexually assaulted.
If that's the case, anyone wanting to rape and degrade women should just go the local pub...Fair game because they're all drinking alcohol there...
Think want you want about it, I don't care.
Then why have a conversation with me if you don't care?
But don't imply I like sexually assaulting people or that I'm for others doing it.
You have an opinion.. apparently 12 jurors disagreed with you.. that doesn't make them rapist lovers.
You have your opinion, and I've got mine. I'm not trying to attack anyone, but to lend some perspective..I have personal knowledge of such a situation, and I have no sympathy for any "man" who would do such a cowardly act. I am not sticking up for the girl unjustly, either. There are tramps, trollops, whores, slutbags, and ho's out there who would gladly be a part of such an act, that's for sure.
Not all women are like that, and the girl I know is NOT like that...her life is in shambles; she had to change school districts, and the scum that did this to her walked free as a bird. All because she had a few drinks.
It sickens me.
I'll tell you why they D.A.'s office persisted....they thought no one would ever have to view the tape under the rape shield law. That's why when this story first came out, she was passed out and dragged into the room, and then BRUTALLY raped. Do you honestly think 2 juries would have acquitted these guys if that was the case? After they realized the tape would be viewed, prosecution changed their story to her being too drunk to consent. This was NOT A RAPE, folks. You have to see that at this point. No, the 24 jurors involved in the 2 trials were not dumb or brain-washed, they merely learned the truth. The defendant's family never spoke out to the press, not wanting to publicly bash the girl, and confident that the tape would tell the real story, and it did. Forget what you heard in the news, it was only one side of the story. What WAS wrong was the writing and spitting that went on after she passed out later in the evening. But the defendants were not accused of that. Why? Because two other young men had done it, have already admitted that, and were given COMMUNITY SERVICE several weeks after the incident occured. I don't approve of ANYTHING that went on that night, but it was revealed that the girl told her female friend that she wanted to get laid that night, she told the boys that she could drink them under the table, and it was her hands that put that bottle to her mouth, not the boys'. And if you still believe it was a rape, this will answer it all for you. If you were a woman getting raped, would you smile, moan with pleasure, hug and kiss him, and finally, if the man's sexual organ "fell out", so to speak, would you re-insert it? She did. End of story.
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