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Judge Says Disposed Fetus, Tissue Isn't a Person
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| March 3, 2006
Posted on 03/04/2006 4:01:42 PM PST by Tarkin
SANDUSKY (AP) -- A hospital whose employee stored about 90 fetuses or fetal tissue instead of disposing them didn't violate the law, said a county judge, citing the U.S. Supreme Court's Roe v. Wade abortion rights ruling. Erie County Judge Tygh Tone ruled against extending the definition of "person" to include fetal tissue based on Roe v. Wade, which set a precedent that legal rights of a "person" have "generally been contingent upon live birth."
The judge dismissed four claims in a lawsuit against Firelands Community Hospital, now known Firelands Regional Medical Center. Two women who had miscarriages or stillbirths at the hospital filed a class action lawsuit against the hospital in 1997, claiming the hospital committed fraud because the staff did not tell them how the fetal tissue would be disposed (...)
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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; courts; cultureofdeath; dehumanization; fetaltissue; fetus; justice; moloch; moralabsolutes; personhood; prolife; roevwade; ruling; scotus
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posted on
03/04/2006 4:01:45 PM PST
by
Tarkin
To: Tarkin
POS gouhls,
I can only hope they don't repent at the end
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posted on
03/04/2006 4:05:00 PM PST
by
vrwc0915
To: Tarkin
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posted on
03/04/2006 4:06:50 PM PST
by
Das Outsider
(The chief end of man is not civil freedom.)
To: vrwc0915
The women said they had nightmares after learning that Patricia Lukas, a technician in the morgue, saved fetal tissue rather than disposing of it in a grinder, which was the hospital's policy. Lukas was eventually fired. "Lukas was simply trying to balance her own religious beliefs with the requirements of her job," the judge said, citing Lukas' court brief. "However, Lukas' religious beliefs that fetal tissue should not be placed in the grinder may be in conflict with religious beliefs of the plaintiffs."
Who are the ghouls?
In any case, may all repent.
Mrs VS
To: Tarkin
My sister had a stillborn child in the 5th month of a pregnancy. She had the baby buried in a family plot.
Now this judge says that if the hospital had taken the fetus and ground it up she wouldnt have been able to claim it and give it a burial?
Having asked that question. I didnt know they ground fetus's
I assumed they were cremated. Grinding up a fetus is ghastly, ghoulish, almost like Saddam throwing people in mulchers. Geez. What is the matter with people who dont ask whats going on with their babies?
To: Das Outsider
EXACTLY what I first thought too! Exactly!
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posted on
03/04/2006 4:14:11 PM PST
by
jdm
To: Tarkin
""However, Lukas' religious beliefs that fetal tissue should not be placed in the grinder may be in conflict with religious beliefs of the plaintiffs.""
So there are people willing to go public and say their religious beliefs dictate that babies should be placed in a grinder. Good grief.
To: Tarkin
The Judge basically said unborn children are no better than hamburger.
The grinder sentence made me sick. God have mercy on us.
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posted on
03/04/2006 4:20:18 PM PST
by
BigFinn
To: Tarkin
Hope he has a good explanation for his ruling when he meets his maker at the close of his pitiable life.
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posted on
03/04/2006 4:20:48 PM PST
by
yldstrk
(My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
To: Tarkin
If it has DNA - it's a person! What an idiot!
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posted on
03/04/2006 4:22:14 PM PST
by
CyberAnt
(Democrats/Old Media: "controversy, crap and confusion" -- Amen!)
To: Tarkin
Another moonbat Ohio judge.
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posted on
03/04/2006 4:23:10 PM PST
by
RockinRight
(Attention RNC...we're the party of Reagan, not FDR...)
To: jdm
EXACTLY what I first thought too! Exactly!
"Erie County Former Fetal Tissue and Judge Tygh Tone" doesn't have the same ring to it, does it?
...ruled against extending the definition of "person" to include fetal tissue based on Roe v. Wade, which set a precedent that legal rights of a "person" have "generally been contingent upon live birth."
For some strange reason, I got the image of a lawyer in the delivery room with a stopwatch.
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posted on
03/04/2006 4:28:25 PM PST
by
Das Outsider
(The chief end of man is not civil freedom.)
To: Das Outsider
Probably not. I've come to the conclusion that most liberals are in fact not human at all...they have to be from another planet to believe the crap they do!
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posted on
03/04/2006 4:30:35 PM PST
by
RockinRight
(Attention RNC...we're the party of Reagan, not FDR...)
To: Das Outsider
Is the judge a person? Must be a tissue blob that evolved into one.
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posted on
03/04/2006 4:31:29 PM PST
by
Fruitbat
To: Das Outsider
PS I'd be curious as to exactly which point in time he actually transistioned from "tissue mass" to actual "person."
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posted on
03/04/2006 4:32:21 PM PST
by
Fruitbat
To: Tarkin
It's also funny how a baby that is born prematurely is a person while the same baby remaining in the womb for another month or two is a piece of tissue.
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posted on
03/04/2006 4:33:22 PM PST
by
Fruitbat
To: Fruitbat
PS I'd be curious as to exactly which point in time he actually transistioned from "tissue mass" to actual "person."
That's what imagination is for. If you have kids, you understand the almost painful precision that they put into "I'm not touching you." This is a legal version, of sorts.
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posted on
03/04/2006 4:38:42 PM PST
by
Das Outsider
(The chief end of man is not civil freedom.)
To: Tarkin
The women said they had nightmares after learning that Patricia Lukas, a technician in the morgue, saved fetal tissue rather than disposing of it in a grinder, which was the hospital's policy. Lukas was eventually fired.That's whacked. I'd side with Lukas. I assume the grinder is typically intended for other biological waste? I would think common decency would steer people towards cremating stillborn babies rather than putting them in a grinder.
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posted on
03/04/2006 4:38:57 PM PST
by
ahayes
To: Fruitbat
Must be a tissue blob that evolved into one.
You can say this about Roe v. Wade: it is far more humane than many of our philosophers and ethicists.
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posted on
03/04/2006 4:40:27 PM PST
by
Das Outsider
(The chief end of man is not civil freedom.)
To: RockinRight
Probably not. I've come to the conclusion that most liberals are in fact not human at all...they have to be from another planet to believe the crap they do!
A planet with many moons, thus all the lunatics.
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posted on
03/04/2006 4:43:53 PM PST
by
Das Outsider
(The chief end of man is not civil freedom.)
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