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Virginia County secretly removes Confederate flag from official seal
The Daily Press, Hampton Roads, VA ^ | March 2, 2006 | Associated Press

Posted on 03/03/2006 11:37:56 AM PST by Rebeleye

The removal of the Confederate flag from Amherst County's official seal has upset Southern heritage groups, who contend residents weren't told of the change. County officials acknowledge the image was quietly removed in August 2004 to avoid an uproar.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: amherst; battleflag; confederate; confederateflag; crackpots; crossofstandrew; dixie; goodthingtoo; neoconfederate; nutty; politicalcorrectness; purge; rag; scv; standrewscross; virgina; virginia
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To: justshutupandtakeit; stand watie
I have seen nothing crediting the gentleman you refer to with either though he could well have been experimenting with similiar drugs.

Watie has this way of pulling names out of thin air, although it's sometimes possible to trace them. "S.L.A. Morton," for instance, bears a striking resemblance to military historian S.L.A. Marshall.

For the record, though, the British chemist who first synthesized heroin was named C.R. Alder Wright. The year was 1874.

No explanation from Watie about the aspirin thing, though.

841 posted on 03/23/2006 8:56:48 AM PST by Heyworth
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To: justshutupandtakeit

I agree with you 100% on this. Lee and Jackson were master tacticians, and used smaller numbers quite effectively.

The Flank March at Chancellorsville, is STILL considered brilliant.


842 posted on 03/23/2006 11:15:00 AM PST by TexConfederate1861
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To: justshutupandtakeit
i don't remember you even asking me for one.

why do you want a "laundry list"of authors???

knowing your opinions as i do, i would spend time doing research & then you would say they were inferior to someone else that you like better.

fwiw,EVERYONE here has figured out your "game". it's called, "whatever i say, absent either facts or knowledge is PERFECT. whatever you say is flawed, regardless of facts!"

in other words,, go do your own research. better yet, head over to DU to be one of the HATERS, there. take "mr. spin" with you as you dance out the door. you will NOT be missed.

free dixie,sw

843 posted on 03/23/2006 2:25:05 PM PST by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie

I just came up with one off the top of my head and your inability to do the same shows the difficulty of coming up with one. Anti-bellum southern culture was woefully deficient compared to the North.

Believe me if I cannot come up with a respectable list of great southern authors/artists you can't.


844 posted on 03/23/2006 2:29:33 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: TexConfederate1861

I always thought that the greatest praise one could give the Confederate generals was of their ability to win great battles consistently with smaller numbers than their opponents.


845 posted on 03/23/2006 2:31:17 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
perhaps, you should do some REAL research, before you LOOK sillier than NOW. grant's own doctor SAID that was what he PRESCRIBED. (it's really HARD to prescribe something that didn't exist!)

the American Indian had used the SAME exact chemical as aspirin for HUNDREDS of years, before the Europeans came to the western hemisphere. they boiled the inner bark of the weeping willow tree to obtain it. aspirin is a NATURAL product, rather than an "invented" one.

"your German" MAY have figured out how to make aspirin from something other than willow bark. (my guess is that you, ONCE MORE, don't know anything about that subject, just as you know so little about other subjects of the 19th century.)

free dixie,sw

846 posted on 03/23/2006 2:32:48 PM PST by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
my suggestion is once more (sigh) that you are only an ANTI-southern bigot and that you have your mind made up that EVERYTHING & EVERYONE in dixie is inferior to those persons/things in the north.

we southons are REALLY GLAD you left the southland. do NOT come back.

free dixie,sw

847 posted on 03/23/2006 2:36:03 PM PST by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie

Presumably your "source" comes from the same place as most of your other buffoonery, your rear end.


848 posted on 03/23/2006 2:38:44 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: stand watie

You think because you keep saying such a stupid thing people will believe you. Unfortunately for you normal people just scratch their heads and ask "where did this nut come from?"

Nothing could be more pro-Southern than attacking those who lead the South into absolute RUIN for a century after the War.


849 posted on 03/23/2006 2:41:02 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: TexConfederate1861
My response to your assertion is this: Lee could have broken through to the West and continued the war rather than surrendering...

And then what? With Grant in pursuit from the east and Sherman in pursuit from the south and with no supply base then just where was Lee supposed to run to?

...but he knew that the loss of life would be extreme, and futile, so he chose the latter. That in itself speaks of Lee's character.

And Grant gave him honorable surrender terms, guaranteeing that every single man in the Army of Northern Virginia was allowed to go home unmolested to pick up their life where they left it. But that means nothing in your eyes, does it?

850 posted on 03/23/2006 2:56:08 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: TexConfederate1861
Which is one reason why my son will be attending HIS Alma Mater next year. :)

Bowdoin's quite a haul from Texas. Hope the winters don't get too hard for him.

851 posted on 03/23/2006 2:58:56 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: TexConfederate1861
I never said Grant was "bloodthirsty".

No just called him a butcher (704), one who didn't give a damn about casualties (757 and 804), no tactician (801), and other slanders. You've engaged in character assassination towards Grant from the beginning. And get all huffy when people point out the flaws in your beloved Saint Bobby of Lee.

852 posted on 03/23/2006 3:10:54 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: stand watie
in point of fact, DR. S.L.A. MORTON invented the drug we NOW call HEROIN in 1848 at a hospital in London...

In point of fact you are making this crap up as you go along. Again.

853 posted on 03/23/2006 3:12:04 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: stand watie
grant's own doctor SAID that was what he PRESCRIBED

Really? Then why, in your original post on the subject (#783), did you say "(i do NOT know that to be a FACT! i read it some years ago in a memoir by one of the unionist officers"?

Now you're defending it to the death and saying that the information comes from "grant's own doctor," not from some anonymous officer. Did this guy write a book? Is it right between "The Annals of Old Missouri" and "Yachts Against Subs" in the Watie Library?

Furthermore you didn't say Grant was chewing on some willow bark. You said he was taking aspirin, which is a far different thing than salicylic acid. The latter is intolerably bad on the stomach. The former wasn't invented until after the Civil War. It's as simple as that.

Once again, you've lied, gotten caught, and are now digging yourself in deeper.

Say, do you need Dr. Lubar's e-mail address?

854 posted on 03/23/2006 3:13:19 PM PST by Heyworth
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To: Heyworth
No explanation from Watie about the aspirin thing, though.

I believe his claims are clearly supported in pp 304 through 310 of that epic work "Yacts Against Subs".

855 posted on 03/23/2006 3:15:44 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Heyworth
Once again, you've lied, gotten caught, and are now digging yourself in deeper.

He is nothing if not consistent, is he?

856 posted on 03/23/2006 3:17:40 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
He is nothing if not consistent, is he?

It's almost magical in its way.

857 posted on 03/23/2006 3:20:45 PM PST by Heyworth
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To: justshutupandtakeit
You really need to learn about such matters if you intend to discuss them.

Your little sneer almost makes it seem like your comments should be related, or at least supportive of each other.

That smaller forces can prevail does not mean that is the rule. In fact, it is the exception to the norm.

858 posted on 03/23/2006 6:29:38 PM PST by Gianni
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To: justshutupandtakeit; Non-Sequitur
[fakin'it] Nevertheless the Congress spoke in the name of the Nation even if ratification of a treaty reguired unanimous consent.

[Non] You mean ratification by "The United States in Congress assembled..."? Not the individual states but the United States. As per the Articles of Confederation.

Next time, in unison, please.

Yes, I do mean unanimous ratification as required per the Articles of Confederation, which state that

Article I. The Stile of this Confederacy shall be "The United States of America."

Article II. Each state retains its sovereignty, freedom, and independence, and every power, jurisdiction, and right, which is not by this Confederation expressly delegated to the United States, in Congress assembled.

Article III. The said States hereby severally enter into a firm league of friendship with each other, for their common defense, the security of their liberties, and their mutual and general welfare, binding themselves to assist each other, against all force offered to, or attacks made upon them, or any of them, on account of religion, sovereignty, trade, or any other pretense whatever.

While it is fun to pretend we were one country, playtime is over. It is clear that the CC was not acting on thier own in best interest of Farber's figmented newborn nation, though it's possible that Louis caught them on a day when their collective normative aura lacked it's normal secret forms of legal potency.

Lewis, by the grace of God king of France and Navarre, to all who shall see these presents, Greeting.

The Congress of the thirteen United States of North America having made known to us, by their plenipotentiaries residing at Paris, their desire to establish between us and our dominions a good understanding, and a perfect correspondence; and having for that purpose proposed to conclude with us a treaty of amity and commerce; and we having thought it our duty to give to the said states a sensible proof of our affection, by a determination to accept of their proposals: For these causes, and other good considerations us thereunto moving, we, reposing entire confidence in the abilities, experience, zeal, and fidelity for our service of our dear and beloved Conrad Alexander Gérard, royal syndic of the city of Strasburg, and secretary of our council of state, have nominated, appointed and commissioned, and by these presents signed with our hand, do nominate, appoint, and commission him our plenipotentiary, giving him power and special command for us, and in our name, to agree upon, conclude and sign with the plenipotentiaries of the United States, equally furnished in due form with full power, such treaty, convention, and articles of commerce and navigation, as he shall think proper, willing that he act with the same authority as we might or could act, if we were personally present, and even as though he had more special command than what is herein contained; promising in good faith and on the word of a king, to agree to, confirm, and establish forever, and to accomplish and execute punctually, all that our said dear and beloved Conrad Alexander Gérard shall stipulate and sign, by virtue of the present power, without contravening it in any manner, or suffering it to be contravened for any cause, or under any pretext whatsoever; and also to ratify the same in due form, and cause our ratification to be delivered and exchanged in the time that shall be agreed on. For such is our pleasure.

In testimony whereof, we have hereunto set our seal.

Done at Versailles, this thirtieth day of January, in the year of our Lord, one thousand seven hundred and seventy-eight, and the fourth year of our reign.

[L. S.] Signed, ... Louis.


859 posted on 03/23/2006 6:42:17 PM PST by Gianni
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Nor was he a drunk either. He did have to resist the demon of drink but resist it he did.

Uh huh.

860 posted on 03/23/2006 6:43:52 PM PST by Gianni
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