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Virginia County secretly removes Confederate flag from official seal
The Daily Press, Hampton Roads, VA ^ | March 2, 2006 | Associated Press

Posted on 03/03/2006 11:37:56 AM PST by Rebeleye

The removal of the Confederate flag from Amherst County's official seal has upset Southern heritage groups, who contend residents weren't told of the change. County officials acknowledge the image was quietly removed in August 2004 to avoid an uproar.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: amherst; battleflag; confederate; confederateflag; crackpots; crossofstandrew; dixie; goodthingtoo; neoconfederate; nutty; politicalcorrectness; purge; rag; scv; standrewscross; virgina; virginia
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To: Non-Sequitur
The every popular "Slavery was wrong but..." arguement. In then end you all seem to do your best to show that you thought that slavery was, in fact, right.

Huh? Now we want to revert back to slavery? You're using my modifying clause to attack me. The subject of the sentence is the relationship that existed between master and slave. It was rarely whips and chains.

My gripe with you guys is the myth you want to promote that there was some fundamental difference between the North and the South over the morality of slavery. The difference was the economics of it.

1,081 posted on 03/30/2006 2:45:54 PM PST by groanup (Shred for Ian)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
that's fine with me.

since you routinely post things that EVERYONE "with a brain" laughs AT the ignorance & foolishness of, that just seems fair.

free dixie,sw

1,082 posted on 03/30/2006 2:47:03 PM PST by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: JSDude1

I yeah I am going to hold my breath waiting for the Black folk in the county to demand putting the symbol of their oppression and misery back in the seal. Surely all the descendents of the slaves of lovable Ole Massa will do no less.

I also expect Israel to start hoisting the swastica flag about the same time.


1,083 posted on 03/30/2006 2:48:01 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
you aren't correct.

in two generations, the grandchildren will be SOUTHERNERS. their children will be SOUTHRON.

southerners are patient & never forget. time is on our side.

also, let me point out that "time wounds all heels". the "heels" being the DYs.

free dixie,sw

1,084 posted on 03/30/2006 2:49:31 PM PST by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
those defending the traitorous scum which tried to DESTROY the USA and its marvelous constitution.

You can only be talking about the central power and tariff grabbers in Washington and the Northeast. The Constitution is a contract between the people and the government. The monument at the courthouse square in my small Georgia town attests that those in Washington violated that contract. IOW those in Washington DESTROYED the marvelous constitution and got away with it.

1,085 posted on 03/30/2006 2:50:24 PM PST by groanup (Shred for Ian)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
rotflmRao AT you!

that's truly worth a belly-laugh!

free dixie,sw

1,086 posted on 03/30/2006 2:50:32 PM PST by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie

Yeah I am sure I am "laughed" at while your demented ravings are treated with exquisite regard. And every "fact" you have posted is not supported by ANY evidence outside your own skull.


1,087 posted on 03/30/2006 2:50:41 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Grant taking aspirin is one of the funniest things ever written on FR though I will admit.

I don't know, I thought the stuff about Mortonite was funnier.

1,088 posted on 03/30/2006 2:50:46 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: justshutupandtakeit
are you smart enough to read the 10th Amendment & UNDERSTAND it?? ( the STATES created the union. NOT the union the states.)

till you are, don't expect me to answer your pointLESS questions.

free dixie,sw

1,089 posted on 03/30/2006 2:52:23 PM PST by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
rotflol AT you.

are you REALLY that clueLESS & ARROGANTLY IGNORANT of historical FACTS???

free dixie,sw

1,090 posted on 03/30/2006 2:53:47 PM PST by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: groanup

Your silly argument ignores the FACT that the federal government was under the control of the South or Southern sympathizers for its entire existence until the election of 1860. Even then Lincoln only won because the Slavers decided they wanted a good excuse to rebel and made sure the Democrat Party was split into three sections. Abe only got 38% of the vote and had no intention of freeing the slaves without a constitutional amendment.

But that did not stop the Slavers from pretending otherwise and attacking the forces of the United States.


1,091 posted on 03/30/2006 2:54:19 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: groanup
TRUE! but don't confuse "JSU&TI" with the TRUTH. it makes him weep.

free dixie,sw

1,092 posted on 03/30/2006 2:55:02 PM PST by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: groanup
The subject of the sentence is the relationship that existed between master and slave.

No, you're talking about the relationship between owner and property, master and chattel, the ownership of one human being by another. Nothing justifies that.

It was rarely whips and chains.

No, but it was white southerners looking at black southerners as fit for nothing but servitude. As something less than human. To be bought and sold at will, with no more thought that selling a table or a cow. Try and pretty it up all you wish, you can't deny the underlying sentiment.

My gripe with you guys is the myth you want to promote that there was some fundamental difference between the North and the South over the morality of slavery. The difference was the economics of it.

The difference is that men like Robert Lee and Thomas Jackson and Jefferson Davis saw the morality of slavery and men like Abraham Lincoln and William Seward did not.

1,093 posted on 03/30/2006 2:55:53 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: stand watie

The Tenth amendment has NOTHING to do with any right of secession and is not a self destruction button for the Union.

There were NO states until the Congress ordered them be formed. There were only ex-colonies. But there was an American People which formed the Union and the states.


1,094 posted on 03/30/2006 2:56:34 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: stand watie; groanup

I will never shed a tear reading anything YOU wrote if the truth makes me weep.


1,095 posted on 03/30/2006 2:57:29 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: stand watie
in two generations, the grandchildren will be SOUTHERNERS. their children will be SOUTHRON.

Hardly.

1,096 posted on 03/30/2006 2:58:16 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
aren't you really EMBARRASSED by "Mr.SPIN & "JSU&TI" being "on your team"???

fwiw, the rest of us think of you are the "team captain" of the unionists. must be a HARD job to try to lead a bunch of seeming imbeciles, even though i'd guess you're about 100x brighter than the rest.

free dixie,sw

1,097 posted on 03/30/2006 2:58:31 PM PST by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

I don't know why you are picking a fight with me..? I don't expect black folks to start 'demanding' that the Confderate battle flag be reinstated back on Amherst' cymbol, but I do know that it is simple fact (and a proud one that Amherst was instrumental in Confederate Rebellion from a Tyrannous USA (at that time ;). I also know that the "flag" as seen by most southerners is n'not' a symbol of hatred, but one of pride. It was only the KKK and later raceist (polarized) south of the 20th that created opression and raceism a symbol of the Confederate flag! And as terrible as slavery is/was (and most people 99.9% in the south) are abhored by slavery..and it WAS a terrible system, but that doesn't mean that you forget history, and that includes the Confederacy..! (BTW I hope you aren't one of those individuals who equates the Civil War=Slavery). It wasn't, it was about the right of states to remain sovereign of the Federal government. Look where that has gotten us...

And if you want to continue this argument...then get over it (and yourself) because I am not raceist neither are most white people (or black people) who live in the South today. My point was, is that most people down south are good ole, Christian, moral, polite, conservative (despite their party affiliation) folk!..And I would add ESPECIALLY THOSE that LIVE in AMHERST co!


1,098 posted on 03/30/2006 2:59:33 PM PST by JSDude1 (If we are not governed by God, we WILL be governed by Tyrants-William Penn..founder of Pennsylvania)
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To: JSDude1

Very well stated. I agree with you.


1,099 posted on 03/30/2006 3:00:52 PM PST by MamaB (mom to an Angel)
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To: stand watie
fwiw, the rest of us think of you are the "team captain" of the unionists. must be a HARD job to try to lead a bunch of seeming imbeciles, even though i'd guess you're about 100x brighter than the rest.

Nobody has appointed or electe me captain of anything. We're a pretty independent crew. As for being smarter than the rest I wouldn't sign on to that, I've seen stuff from Ditto and x and just about everybody else that puts my poor contributions to shame.

1,100 posted on 03/30/2006 3:02:18 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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