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AP: AC-130 Gunships Returning to Iraq
Yahoo/AP ^ | March 3, 2006 | CHARLES J. HANLEY

Posted on 03/03/2006 10:41:34 AM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

AN AIR BASE IN IRAQ - The U.S. Air Force has begun moving heavily armed AC-130 airplanes — the lethal "flying gunships" of the Vietnam War — to a base in Iraq as commanders search for new tools to counter the Iraqi resistance, The Associated Press has learned.

An AP reporter saw the first of the turboprop-driven aircraft after it landed at the airfield this week. Four are expected.

The Iraq-based special forces command controlling the AC-130s, the Combined Joint Special Operations Task Force, said it would have no comment on the deployment. But the plan's general outline was confirmed by other Air Force officers, speaking anonymously because of the sensitivity of the subject.

Military officials warned that disclosing the location of the aircraft's new base would violate security provisions of rules governing media access to U.S. installations.

The four-engine gunships, whose home base is Hurlburt Field in Florida, have operated over Iraq before, flying from airfields elsewhere in the region. In November 2004, air-to-ground fire from AC-130s supported the U.S. attack that took the western city of Fallujah from insurgents. Basing the planes inside Iraq will cut hours off their transit time to reach suspected targets.

The left-side ports of the AC-130s, 98-foot-long planes that can slowly circle over a target for long periods, bristle with a potent arsenal — 40 mm cannon that can fire 120 rounds per minute, and big 105 mm cannon, normally a field artillery weapon. The plane's latest version, the AC-130U, known as "Spooky," also carries Gatling gun-type 20 mm cannon.

The gunships were designed primarily for battlefield use to place saturated fire on massed troops. In Vietnam, for example, they were deployed against North Vietnamese supply convoys along the Ho Chi Minh Trail, where the Air Force claimed to have destroyed 10,000 trucks over several years.

The use of AC-130s in places like Fallujah, urban settings where insurgents may be among crowded populations of noncombatants, has been criticized by human rights groups.

The slow-moving AC-130s also offer an intelligence gathering advantage in the Iraq fight: sophisticated long-range video, infrared and radar sensors.

American commanders are marshaling all available tools to detect the Iraqi insurgents' stealthy operations, especially at night, when they plant roadside bombs targeting American road patrols and convoys.

The Air Force's senior tactical commander in Iraq said the AC-130 can be both a high-intensity and low-intensity weapon.

"It's got tons of guns, and it's got all kinds of stuff on it that can be applied to the problems you have," Brig. Gen. Frank Gorenc, who refused to discuss the current AC-130 deployment, said in an AP interview.

That "stuff" includes "the ability to take these high-tech pods and to use them to find guys planting (bombs) and to find other nefarious activity," he said.

The Predator drone — the MQ-1 unmanned aerial vehicle — has been a reconnaissance workhorse in Iraq, but Air Force officers say they don't have enough to meet demand for missions. The fiscal 2007 Defense Department budget proposed last month by the Bush administration envisions spending $1.6 billion on additional reconnaissance drones.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ac130s; c130; gnfi; iraq; oif; traitormedia; usaf
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To: Dallas59

There was a post a couple days ago in reference to tell tale signs of a military opereration about to occur that was posted on strategypage.com. I think this deployment was one of the signs. I can't find the article anymore on that website. But I think Iran is very close.


81 posted on 03/03/2006 12:09:51 PM PST by BreezyDog
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Loose lips sink ships. Thank you AP.


82 posted on 03/03/2006 2:44:46 PM PST by wildbill
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To: ducks1944; Ragtime Cowgirl; Alamo-Girl; TrueBeliever9; maestro; TEXOKIE; My back yard; djreece; ...
The Iraq-based special forces command controlling the AC-130s, the Combined Joint Special Operations Task Force, said it would have no comment on the deployment. But the plan's general outline was confirmed by other Air Force officers, speaking anonymously because of the sensitivity of the subject.

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The four-engine gunships, whose home base is Hurlburt Field in Florida, have operated over Iraq before, flying from airfields elsewhere in the region. In November 2004, air-to-ground fire from AC-130s supported the U.S. attack that took the western city of Fallujah from insurgents. Basing the planes inside Iraq will cut hours off their transit time to reach suspected targets.

83 posted on 03/03/2006 2:47:28 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
AC-130!

Be Ever Vigilant!


84 posted on 03/03/2006 3:18:56 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Spktyr
There were many variants, but I still remember the gunship "Puff" as in "Puff the Magic Dragon" from the song of that era.

In a twist of fate, a stateside high school chum had sent me a Popular Science magazine with Puff on the cover, and the article on the technology of a motorized Gatling gun mounted on the AC-47.

And I did love that song as a child. - Dates me, doesn't it? 8^)

85 posted on 03/03/2006 3:51:27 PM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: bill1952
dragons live forever, but not so little boys
86 posted on 03/03/2006 3:53:07 PM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Dallas59
Yup, Iran was the first word that came to my mind, too. One or two platforms I can see for current ops, but four... it's to support eyes on target.
87 posted on 03/03/2006 4:08:04 PM PST by compuguru (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Toby06; Marine_Uncle; NormsRevenge

That is a new one for me....


88 posted on 03/03/2006 4:29:03 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"That is a new one for me...."
Gee wheez. How many long dialogs had I typed easily expanding last summer to the end of the year, where I explained in some detail the Iraqi airforce training in those C130, and that shortly they would be fully operational. Guess my writting is to no effect. But no complaint. Now all can see it in official print.
89 posted on 03/03/2006 4:42:24 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Spktyr
the aircraft flew out of Ubon Thailand in 1968-- first hand knowledge ---Ijust check my "good buy" metal cup dated Oct 19 1969
90 posted on 03/03/2006 4:44:25 PM PST by ralph rotten
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To: Marine_Uncle

I meant the video....


91 posted on 03/03/2006 4:47:02 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"I meant the video...."
Good enough for me.
92 posted on 03/03/2006 4:59:40 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"I meant the video...."
Good enough for me. I'm losing it. I had just read article on the article SandRat posted refering to the Iraqi Airforce use of the C130's we gave them last year to train in. And mistook your ping in this different posting on C130's ready to redeploy to Iraq for some damaged controll as that article. Sorry I jumped the gun.
93 posted on 03/03/2006 5:04:05 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Spktyr

Wrong-o/


94 posted on 03/03/2006 5:05:05 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (OK, how bad we hurt for 2006? Who we running in 2008?)
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To: Marine_Uncle

OK, I don't see anything in this article that implies someone other than us is going to operate these .....


95 posted on 03/03/2006 5:20:32 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Did not implie that. SandRat posted two sequencial articles on C130 in Iraq. First one was about the four C130's we gave them last year and had been training them to use for their budding airforce. Second article which you pinged me was about our guys going back to Iraq in with their gunships to plaster jidadist. I confused things with my remark to you, in thinking you pong me on the first article, which obviously you did not. I goofed. Meanwhile back in the states....
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1589671/posts


96 posted on 03/03/2006 5:37:17 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: NavyCanDo
If things heat up with Iran, I wish we had a pair of these ready;

97 posted on 03/03/2006 8:18:47 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Join FR Team 36120 at http://folding.stanford.edu {Protein Folding Project})
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To: Calpernia

Thanks for the ping!


98 posted on 03/03/2006 9:42:03 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Go get em Puff


99 posted on 03/03/2006 10:24:58 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
While on one hand, the deployment could be taken to mean the situation in Iraq has degraded, on the otehr hand, they may be going there anticipating the start of hunting season in iran.
100 posted on 03/04/2006 4:29:35 PM PST by fso301
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