Posted on 03/02/2006 11:19:11 AM PST by ExSoldier
Right. Most of the liberal anti-gun entertainers are carrying or have bodyguards who are. It's allowed because they are better than we are, since we love them so much we give them our money, and then they can tell us what to do and what not to do. Wait a minute! They work for us! Let's fire them.
The only logical explanation is that his parents were also brother and sister.
Unless it's part of a real crime, murder, rape robbery, etc on the part of the gun owner/collector, except in a few jurisdictions, its generally the BATFE, which aren't real cops anyway, that does this sort of thing. The bottom of the barrel in federal "law enforcement".
Didn't you see the "real cops" confiscating little old ladies guns in New Orleans? They weren't feds.
IIRC those particular ninja weren't even from Louisiana!
Interesting. I was born, raised and currently live in Coral Gables. We should get together for a drink sometime. There's a couple of great places on Miracle Mile: Tarpon Grill and Houston's. There is also an AWESOME Sushi bar down on Ponce de Leon called Taisho. All you can eat for under $20. I sometimes put away thirty pieces of nigiri at a time.
I'm more of an Outdoorsman at heart and long for some REAL wilderness & wildlife.
Ever been on the Loop Road or Turner River Road? Is your Excursion a 4x4?
No they weren't from LA; many NO police abandoned their posts. As I recall they were from several jurisdictions including the Peoples' Democracy of Kalifornia, but my point is that they were ordinary "rank and file" police that all too many people on this board seem to think can do no wrong.
I understand the regional point, but I don't think for one minute that police in alabama or Floride or Georgia, if ordered to confiscate guns, would hesitate any more than police in New York.
You didn't read all of my post on that. I agree with you as the situation stands now. But 15 or 20 years ago, before the liberals and their masters, the globalists, got 'hold of these folks, the southern traditions were still in full force and although some would turn traitor, I seriously doubt that 99% of the cops from THAT era would turn on their neighbors in such an unlawful order. But today? Proof is evident.
You made a false assumption - ie that I didn't read it all. I did. I just don't see what might have been true 20 years ago has any bearing on the developing US police state of today. And as far as some "turning traitor" police work appeals to those who like enforcing laws. There are very few who go into a police career thinking that there are laws that shouldn't be enforced.
Prior to 1968 you could order WWII surplus cannons through the mail and ammunition for them. Now the thought of anyone with anything but the very limited caliber and firearm selection available legally today gives police and other government bureaucrats, the MSM, and a large segment of the populations instant enuresis.
I just don't see what might have been true 20 years ago has any bearing on the developing US police state of today.
I was trying to show a progression that is contrary to the health of the nation today, but it wasn't always that way.
And as far as some "turning traitor" police work appeals to those who like enforcing laws. There are very few who go into a police career thinking that there are laws that shouldn't be enforced.
I used to make my living as a State level LEO. Then, as now we give to our police officers something called discretionary powers which means society allows them certain latitudes in enforcing the law. Ever heard this: Okay, I'll let you off with a warning this time...? Well that is a prime example. We do not expect our cops to be mindless automotons, even though they sometimes act like that.
When I was a Probation & Parole officer I saw many examples of poor judgment in the judicial system. Folks who just should not, by circumstances, BE on probation. I had the files. I had all the facts the prosecutors and judge had. If, in my judgement, a "client" had served most of their probation without violation and was to all accounts a good citizen...well I ran it by my superior (who always said USE YOUR JUDGMENT) and went to court to get them off probation early. OTOH, I wasn't shy about observing behavior that violated conditions of probation and re-arresting the offender and going forward in the process of returning that offender to prison. That is discretionary power. Florida is not an "open carry" state, yet after Hurricane Andrew, it was common for neighborhoods to go about their area armed openly and the cops turned a blind eye because they saw the display as an asset and not a hindrance or a danger. They chose not to enforce the law.
Prior to 1968 you could order WWII surplus cannons through the mail and ammunition for them.
About ten years ago, I met the requirements to purchase a surplus M1 Garand from the U.S. Government via the program run by the DCM (Directorate of Civilian Marksmanship) as an NRA certified Instructor and rifle competitor. I bought the gun for $165.00 Guess how the government sent me my gun? Yup: U.S. Mail!
I can't disagree with that. As you say, the progression is obvious - look at the difference in Hurricane Andrew where as you say the some officers chose not to enforce the law, and Katrina where they enforced non-existant laws. I personally considered them to be nothing better than the other two legged predators and parasites roaming the city at that time. I had to opportunity, but not the money at the time prior to '68 to get a solothurn 20mm. I'm sorry now I didn't try harder to find the $$$
As my students say: I feel ya, man. Ever seen the video that Mike Dillon (Dillon Reloading machines) did wherein he used a huge portion of his huge ranch to fire up a car, and some remote aerial drones with electrically operated QUAD 50 BMG'S? He had to sit in the gun mount! He also used a wide variety of Class III weapons demonstrated by his lovely daughters and I think he also has a 20mm chaingun that's on the video. I wish I could afford all of that hardware! Then I wish I could afford to feed all that hardware.
Yes I did see it - I've also operated a Ma Deuce. Very effective device. I wonder what the NO jack boots would have done if they ran up on a survivalist type who was equipped to deal with their stuff? Good thing for all that they didn't
I have to agree with you. My very best friend retired in 1998 from the US Army as an 05 (LTC) of special forces. He moved to Maine and lived like a small town teacher should. But I got him nervous on the Y2K scenario and so he invited some folks up to his place for a New Year's eve party in 1999. Three of his old A-Teams.
I dunno about you, but I wouldn't want to be the cop who decided to take on 37 green beanies who didn't feel like cooperating with big brother....in the woods.....at night? He made the comment to me just a few hours before zero hour that if the world went to Hell, they'd already decided to lurp up and down the nearby interstate (2 exits in both directions) and as they put it: drop the spans.
Goes double for me. Although you gotta wonder what they were planning on using to drop the spans - on second thought I don't really want to know :-)
Speaking of ma deuce, a friend of mine got an email that was circulating on the effectivness of the various weapons in Iraq. The comment on the M2 was something like "worth it's considerable weight in gold. really puts their dicks in the dirt"
That exact comment has been inscribed in the diary's of infantrymen since it's inception and particularly since WWII, but I think the M2 pre-dates that war.
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