Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Bush disagrees with South Dakota abortion ban
AFP ^ | 1 March 2006

Posted on 02/28/2006 6:36:43 PM PST by Aussie Dasher

US President George W. Bush signalled his opposition to a South Dakota abortion ban that forbids the procedure even in cases of rape or incest, saying he favors such exceptions.

But Bush declined to predict the outcome of any legal challenges to the legislation, which would make it illegal to terminate a pregnancy except in rare cases when it may be necessary to save the life of the mother.

"That, of course, is a state law, but my position has always been three exceptions: Rape, incest, and the life of the mother," the US president told ABC news in an interview.

Asked whether he would include "health" of the mother, Bush replied: "I said life of the mother, and health is a very vague term, but my position has been clear on that ever since I started running for office."

The bill, which recently gained final approval from South Dakota's House of Representatives, directly contradicts the precedent set in 1973 when the US Supreme Court ruled that bans on abortion violate a woman's constitutional right to privacy.

The bill grants no allowances for women who have been raped or are victims of incest. Doctors who perform abortion would be charged with a crime. It also prohibits the sale of emergency contraception and asserts that life begins at fertilization.

The governor of South Dakota has indicated he is likely to sign the bill.

A leading pro-choice advocacy group has already vowed to challenge the ban in federal court. But that seems to be exactly what many promoters of the legislation seek.

Advocates of the ban do not deny they aim much higher than South Dakota, a rural and socially conservative state, which even today has only one abortion clinic.

Instead, they are hoping the bill will offer a full frontal assault on legal abortions now that the balance of power in the Supreme Court appears to have shifted with the confirmation of conservative jurists John Roberts and Samuel Alito, both of whom are seen as pro-life.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: South Dakota
KEYWORDS: abortion; abortionban; deadbabies; freepertimewarp; incest; misleadingheadline; presidentbush; rape; readthearticle; southdakota
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 461-480481-500501-520 ... 1,061-1,073 next last
To: Darkwolf377
"with a law that will be crushed, will merely paint us as extremists."

I wouldn't be so certain this law will be crushed. The SCOTUS may now have a majority of constitutional originalists. They may very well use this case to overturn Roe vs Wade as constitutionally flawed. If it does so, contrary to popular belief, it will not make abortion illegal. The court would merely be restoring the constitutional order of things and return the matter to States to resolve as their citizens' duly elected representatives see fit.
481 posted on 02/28/2006 8:10:31 PM PST by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( Terrorism is a symptom, ISLAM IS THE DISEASE!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Hildy

no- we probably won't ever agree...
and I am okay with that.. but just stop attacking men for taking a stand for life.....

applaud them for caring enough and taking the risk to take a stand- especially when they know they open themselves up to the kind of attacks you have been putting on them...

they really deserve more respect than that... they are not trying to hurt you...... they realy believe the life of the unborn child is precious... they are not out to see anyone suffer...

okay?


482 posted on 02/28/2006 8:10:48 PM PST by eeevil conservative (Seeking to marry a RICH MALE CHAUVANIST PIG! Cedar Dave admits to being 2 of the 4!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 474 | View Replies]

To: HoustonCurmudgeon

LOL see 414.


483 posted on 02/28/2006 8:10:50 PM PST by boomop1
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 446 | View Replies]

To: Will_Zurmacht
God bless you too, and America as we prepare for the chaos that will erupt once Roe v. Wade is finally abolished.
484 posted on 02/28/2006 8:11:10 PM PST by clawrence3
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 470 | View Replies]

To: eeevil conservative

Seems to me you're the angry one here. I have nothing but admiration for your decision. But I also have compassion on a rape victim who cannot muster the incredible strength it must take to carry a child for nine months knowing it was not conceived with her consent and always living with the pain and anger of being violated. Yes - I know, you and others here will say, "Well what about compassion for the unborn baby..." Yes, it's a terrible decision to have to make. And we'll never agree. I feel that it is not a decision that should be forced on someone who has already been victimized. And in the end it's for God to judge.


485 posted on 02/28/2006 8:11:11 PM PST by madmominct
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 429 | View Replies]

To: cyborg; Hildy
Many folks forget that even if Roe v. Wade is overturned...and I think it should be...it won't do one thing to make abortions stop. At all. It will simply, and properly, return the issue to the states, as it is not a federal/constitutional issue. Even left-leaning lawyers like Alan Dershowitz have said publicly that RvW is bad constitutional law. I support the right of SD to ban all abortions if they wish. Conversely, I support the right of any other state to make and/or keep them all legal. Were this to happen, and if abortion were a major issue for me, then I would simply take the first available opportunity to relocate myself to a state where my opinions more closely matched the law.

That's m'story and I'm stickin' to it. ; )

486 posted on 02/28/2006 8:11:25 PM PST by TheBigB (Meanwhile, at the Hall of Justice...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 449 | View Replies]

To: jdm

I don't know. I do think there are many women who don't think twice. It's just the way it is.


487 posted on 02/28/2006 8:12:05 PM PST by cyborg (I just love that man.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 476 | View Replies]

To: oceanview

I'd rather discuss abortion, to be honest with you ; )


488 posted on 02/28/2006 8:12:10 PM PST by clawrence3
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 459 | View Replies]

To: lesser_satan
Look, you want a dead body ~ what's wrong with executing the rapist? We could even add a bit of torture to the mix if you wished ~ maybe slice and dice, topped off with a bit of drawing and quartering.

Certainly that'd slake any thirst.

489 posted on 02/28/2006 8:12:20 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 479 | View Replies]

To: Peach
I'm a woman who is pro-life and I've raised two daughters the same. None of us would EVER consider abortion, even if the pregnancy was a result of rape. And my 17-year-old is even more adamant on this issue than I am.

Their generation sees it for what it is -- the murder of an innocent child. They've grown up with technological advances that have shown us that the baby is not a "blob of tissue," like our generation was told.

All those years of obfuscation by NARAL and NOW ("it's between a woman, her doctor, and her God," "if you're against abortion, don't HAVE one," and my personal favorite "it's MY body, I can do what I want with it.") worked like a charm on the boomers, but our children have seen right through it, thank God!

490 posted on 02/28/2006 8:12:22 PM PST by IrishRainy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 109 | View Replies]

To: jveritas
I am saying that in this case of rape or incest the mother should have the choice to abort. In your friend case she chose to have the baby and that is perfectly fine with me.

Could you do me a favor? Could you say, "If your friend chose to KILL THE BABY that would be perfectly fine"? Baby, not fetus. Just like you say "baby" if someone doesn't choose to commit murder, one should say baby when the "choice" is to kill. The word "baby" so easily slipped from your fingers because the child is still living. Don't say abort. Say MURDER. That's what it is.

491 posted on 02/28/2006 8:12:24 PM PST by DameAutour (I'm uniquely one of us and one of them.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 79 | View Replies]

To: Hildy; All
Studies Find Abortions Have Long-Term Adverse Effects

Forty-eight percent of the women who had miscarriages suffered distress at the ten-day period versus 30 percent of those who aborted. However, the ones who had miscarriages dropped to 23 percent after six months and to 2.6 percent after five years.

Of the women who had abortions 26 percent were still suffering grief, guilt, depression, shame and denial at six months. After five years 20 percent were still distressed.


492 posted on 02/28/2006 8:12:42 PM PST by TigersEye (Walk as if your footsteps shake the world.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 425 | View Replies]

To: COEXERJ145

I agree with him on somethings, and disagree with him on others. But I will always voice my disagreement about someone who thinks that killing babies, no matter how they were conceived, is ok.


493 posted on 02/28/2006 8:12:42 PM PST by frankiep
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 416 | View Replies]

To: cyborg

uhm

no- conception does occur.. the pill just prevents the egg from nesting in the uterus....

you might want to look that up for yourself.. rather than just take my word for it.. but I have researched this quite well....

but Bless you.. I appreciate your candor...


494 posted on 02/28/2006 8:12:51 PM PST by eeevil conservative (Seeking to marry a RICH MALE CHAUVANIST PIG! Cedar Dave admits to being 2 of the 4!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 480 | View Replies]

To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY

If it is this court's intent to return the abortion issue to the states and erase the mistaken idea that there is a "constitutionally protected" right to abortion, it doesn't matter whether the SD law has exceptions for incest and rape.

If it is this court's intention to preserve Roe v. Wade and continue to say that all abortion is a constitutionally protected act under federal law it also doesn't matter what the specifics of the SD law are.


495 posted on 02/28/2006 8:12:52 PM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 481 | View Replies]

To: TheBigB; Hildy

That's my story too and I'm off to recover from yoga class!


496 posted on 02/28/2006 8:13:07 PM PST by cyborg (I just love that man.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 486 | View Replies]

To: cyborg
"I do think a oops baby is a little different from a rape (baby)."

The unborn child fails to recognize any difference whatsoever.
497 posted on 02/28/2006 8:13:11 PM PST by jdm (I do not allow any liberal to swim, er, ride in my car.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 456 | View Replies]

To: lesser_satan

Did you read my post? Any newborn born in America can be adopted so fast, with every prenatal expense taken care of, no questions asked.


498 posted on 02/28/2006 8:13:34 PM PST by clawrence3
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 454 | View Replies]

To: boomop1

see 446


499 posted on 02/28/2006 8:13:49 PM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (Justice and "The Law" are not always the same thing.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 483 | View Replies]

To: jdm

I'm talking about the feelings of the woman, not the baby.


500 posted on 02/28/2006 8:14:06 PM PST by cyborg (I just love that man.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 497 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 461-480481-500501-520 ... 1,061-1,073 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson