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Bush disagrees with South Dakota abortion ban
AFP ^ | 1 March 2006

Posted on 02/28/2006 6:36:43 PM PST by Aussie Dasher

US President George W. Bush signalled his opposition to a South Dakota abortion ban that forbids the procedure even in cases of rape or incest, saying he favors such exceptions.

But Bush declined to predict the outcome of any legal challenges to the legislation, which would make it illegal to terminate a pregnancy except in rare cases when it may be necessary to save the life of the mother.

"That, of course, is a state law, but my position has always been three exceptions: Rape, incest, and the life of the mother," the US president told ABC news in an interview.

Asked whether he would include "health" of the mother, Bush replied: "I said life of the mother, and health is a very vague term, but my position has been clear on that ever since I started running for office."

The bill, which recently gained final approval from South Dakota's House of Representatives, directly contradicts the precedent set in 1973 when the US Supreme Court ruled that bans on abortion violate a woman's constitutional right to privacy.

The bill grants no allowances for women who have been raped or are victims of incest. Doctors who perform abortion would be charged with a crime. It also prohibits the sale of emergency contraception and asserts that life begins at fertilization.

The governor of South Dakota has indicated he is likely to sign the bill.

A leading pro-choice advocacy group has already vowed to challenge the ban in federal court. But that seems to be exactly what many promoters of the legislation seek.

Advocates of the ban do not deny they aim much higher than South Dakota, a rural and socially conservative state, which even today has only one abortion clinic.

Instead, they are hoping the bill will offer a full frontal assault on legal abortions now that the balance of power in the Supreme Court appears to have shifted with the confirmation of conservative jurists John Roberts and Samuel Alito, both of whom are seen as pro-life.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: South Dakota
KEYWORDS: abortion; abortionban; deadbabies; freepertimewarp; incest; misleadingheadline; presidentbush; rape; readthearticle; southdakota
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To: Aussie Dasher

The woman had no choice in getting pregnant, and is under no obligation to do anything against her will. If it makes you feel better, have the rapist executed for murdering the child, as he bears the ultimate responsibility.


261 posted on 02/28/2006 7:26:50 PM PST by lesser_satan
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To: jwalsh07

My brother sends me daily emails tweaking me about the South Dakota business. It amuses him. My other brother tells me that parents should be able to off a baby up to 90 days old, per a "right of return" policy. I am still not quite sure if he is totally serious, as opposed to being provactive. It doesn't work. I maintain my sang froid. Adoption? Nope. There are too many folks on the planet says he. But then he lives in the Bay area. There is something in the water up there. Such is life.


262 posted on 02/28/2006 7:26:51 PM PST by Torie
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To: ARCADIA

Luckily for me and the country President Bush will be President until January 2009.

One HECK of a bigger accomplishment than you, eh?


263 posted on 02/28/2006 7:26:52 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Casey Sheehan, thank you for your service. I'm proud of you. Even if your own mother isn't.)
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To: JohnnyZ; Peach; Hildy

Peach and Hildy supporting abortion, I'm shocked, shocked!!!

In all seriousness, I am too. And their logic is pretty weak.

264 posted on 02/28/2006 7:26:55 PM PST by Augie76 (Daughter of a veteran (SeaBees - VietNam))
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To: Hildy; Peach; cyborg
This has been his stand from day one. Nothing new.

Amen.

265 posted on 02/28/2006 7:27:07 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: prairiebreeze

"And if that 17 year old was raped by her father...?"

Even worse, but I believe that once the sperm and egg make an embryo a person is alive, and it has rights. Those rights cannot be taken by anyone for any reason, sorry thats how freedom works baby.


266 posted on 02/28/2006 7:27:18 PM PST by RHINO369
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To: silentknight

A cop killing when the criminal pulls a gun on him is not O.K. with you then either? Good thing you aren't running the laws.


267 posted on 02/28/2006 7:27:22 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: silentknight
"AMAZING how many Pro-Abortion people are on Freepers. "

Most of us support restrictions, but when it goes over the line to include rape and incest, I think you might the support is not as strong as you might like to think.
268 posted on 02/28/2006 7:27:33 PM PST by ndt
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To: JohnnyZ
he has been consistent with that position from the get-go.

Johnny - Great minds thing partly alike in this case anyway. I just posted almost word for word your quote above only to see your post.

269 posted on 02/28/2006 7:27:35 PM PST by daybreakcoming (If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. A. Lincoln)
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To: Hildy
"Nothing...and what has the woman done to deserve her life being ruined?"

Inconvenience justifies elimination?
270 posted on 02/28/2006 7:27:48 PM PST by jdm (I do not allow any liberal to swim, er, ride in my car.)
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To: RHINO369

I am surprised Free Republic allows Pro-Abortion people on the forum. People have been banned for MUCH less. heh


271 posted on 02/28/2006 7:27:49 PM PST by silentknight
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To: All

http://www.afterabortion.info/rape.html


272 posted on 02/28/2006 7:27:51 PM PST by Jaded (The truth shall set you free, but lying to yourself turns you French.)
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To: curiosity

have you ever spoken to a rape victim?
I don't mean in passing, I mean in your family?

I have, and at some level the trauma will never fully leave her.
To force her to carry some some sick-twisted man's seed strikes me as compounding the pain and cruelty.

All I can honestly do is hope this sort of thing never confronts your family.


273 posted on 02/28/2006 7:27:52 PM PST by Will_Zurmacht
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To: Hildy
Tough call, but I think I am going to have to side with you and Bush on this one (for the most part). I cannot accept forcing a raped woman to carry a pregnancy to term. If the abortion takes place, the rapist should be charged with not only rape, but murder of the child. Would make things interesting.
274 posted on 02/28/2006 7:28:03 PM PST by M203M4
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To: jwalsh07

Ya, but it is getting the paranoid on this issue, more paranoid. We need Roe to stop the nutters they say. Democracy is relative.


275 posted on 02/28/2006 7:28:20 PM PST by Torie
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To: Peach

So, you are "reading between the lines" too?


276 posted on 02/28/2006 7:28:20 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: MikefromOhio

Thanks for being a voice of reason. Time to split.


277 posted on 02/28/2006 7:28:32 PM PST by Peach
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To: clawrence3

Don't be stuck on stupid...we are talking about abortion not cops and robbers. Nice try though. geesh


278 posted on 02/28/2006 7:28:39 PM PST by silentknight
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To: Peach
I can't imagine many freepers being upset about the president's statements. Only those who are looking for something to be upset about.

I can't imagine many who are so foolish that they think there is nothing to be upset about.

279 posted on 02/28/2006 7:28:48 PM PST by eskimo (Political groupies - rabid defenders of the indefensible.)
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To: Hildy

It is a truely horrible thing. But the woman is still alive and has every opportunity to get through it. It has been done before. Life isn't fair and it never will be completely fair. But it can be just. And killing someone just to make things easier is murder, any way you look at it.


280 posted on 02/28/2006 7:29:02 PM PST by frankiep
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