Posted on 02/28/2006 4:05:45 AM PST by PatrickHenry
House lawmakers scuttled a bill that would have required public school students to be told that evolution is not empirically proven - the latest setback for critics of evolution.
The bill's sponsor, Republican state Sen. Chris Buttars, had said it was time to rein in teachers who were teaching that man descended from apes and rattling the faith of students. The Senate earlier passed the measure 16-12.
But the bill failed in the House on a 28-46 vote Monday. The bill would have required teachers to tell students that evolution is not a fact and the state doesn't endorse the theory.
Rep. Scott Wyatt, a Republican, said he feared passing the bill would force the state to then address hundreds of other scientific theories - "from Quantum physics to Freud" - in the same manner.
"I would leave you with two questions," Wyatt said. "If we decide to weigh in on this part, are we going to begin weighing in on all the others and are we the correct body to do that?"
Buttars said he didn't believe the defeat means that most House members think Charles Darwin's theory of evolution is correct.
"I don't believe that anybody in there really wants their kids to be taught that their great-grandfather was an ape," Buttars said.
The vote represents the latest loss for critics of evolution. In December, a federal judge barred the school system in Dover, Pa., from teaching intelligent design alongside evolution in high school biology classes.
Also last year, a federal judge ordered the school system in suburban Atlanta's Cobb County to remove from biology textbooks stickers that called evolution a theory, not a fact.
Earlier this year, a rural California school district canceled an elective philosophy course on intelligent design and agreed never to promote the topic in class again.
But critics of evolution got a boost in Kansas in November when the state Board of Education adopted new science teaching standards that treat evolution as a flawed theory, defying the view of science groups.
"And humans were created in the image of God."
And your empirical proof of that is....?
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. For by it the elders obtained a good report. Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. (Hebrews 11:1-3 KJV)
"If you could be so kind as to point me to a post with worse grammar than Vaquero's, I will be more than happy to suggest the use of a spell checker and grammar checker to that poster as well."
you are evading the issue.
Well I do hope you are not working as a grammar teacher.
My great grandfather was a Confederate soldier and I say that with pride!
Aren't you supposed to start a sentence with a capital letter?
I think it's even false to call evolution a theory. It's merely a paradigm. Evolution can't actually "happen" as such. "Natural selection" is an umbrella term that conveniently says that any long-term trend was the best possible outcome because it is the one that has occurred.
"Well I do hope you are not working as a grammar teacher."
No I work in the zoo feeding gorilla chow to "Born Agains".
Kind of ironic...
You can catch me on that. Sometimes I use "ape" in the creationist sense of anything with too much hair and too small a vocabulary. Some baseball catchers like Andy Etchebarren or Thurman Munson might have qualified--I'm not sure. There's "ape" as in "anything that makes a creationist say his great-grandfather wasn't one," and there's the the group of tailless primates that split from monkeys thirty-something million years ago. We aren't in the one group and we are in the other.
He does work in wondrous ways!
You need to start answering our questions, instead of obfuscating.
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Indeed. But for me:
Then God said: "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. Let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, the birds of the air, and the cattle, and over all the wild animals and all the creatures that crawl on the ground."
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God created man in his image; in the divine image he created him; male and female he created them.
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God blessed them, saying: "Be fertile and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it. Have dominion over the fish of the sea, the birds of the air, and all the living things that move on the earth."
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God also said: "See, I give you every seed-bearing plant all over the earth and every tree that has seed-bearing fruit on it to be your food;
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and to all the animals of the land, all the birds of the air, and all the living creatures that crawl on the ground, I give all the green plants for food." And so it happened. 31
God looked at everything he had made, and he found it very good. Evening came, and morning followed--the sixth day.
http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/genesis/genesis1.htm
"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. For by it the elders obtained a good report. Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. (Hebrews 11:1-3 KJV) "
*Bzzztt*** Sorry, wrong answer. Words in a book does not constitute empirical evidence.
It's amazing what government officials will do to hide their own backgrounds.
Check back later marker.
this post no verb either
Continued thread hi-jacking attempt noted.
You don't like my style? Tough. I've been published and paid for it. Your views don't count.
Where is your response to Vaquero's point?
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