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Utah House kills evolution bill
Fort Wayne Journal Gazette ^ | 28 February 2006 | JENNIFER DOBNER

Posted on 02/28/2006 4:05:45 AM PST by PatrickHenry

House lawmakers scuttled a bill that would have required public school students to be told that evolution is not empirically proven - the latest setback for critics of evolution.

The bill's sponsor, Republican state Sen. Chris Buttars, had said it was time to rein in teachers who were teaching that man descended from apes and rattling the faith of students. The Senate earlier passed the measure 16-12.

But the bill failed in the House on a 28-46 vote Monday. The bill would have required teachers to tell students that evolution is not a fact and the state doesn't endorse the theory.

Rep. Scott Wyatt, a Republican, said he feared passing the bill would force the state to then address hundreds of other scientific theories - "from Quantum physics to Freud" - in the same manner.

"I would leave you with two questions," Wyatt said. "If we decide to weigh in on this part, are we going to begin weighing in on all the others and are we the correct body to do that?"

Buttars said he didn't believe the defeat means that most House members think Charles Darwin's theory of evolution is correct.

"I don't believe that anybody in there really wants their kids to be taught that their great-grandfather was an ape," Buttars said.

The vote represents the latest loss for critics of evolution. In December, a federal judge barred the school system in Dover, Pa., from teaching intelligent design alongside evolution in high school biology classes.

Also last year, a federal judge ordered the school system in suburban Atlanta's Cobb County to remove from biology textbooks stickers that called evolution a theory, not a fact.

Earlier this year, a rural California school district canceled an elective philosophy course on intelligent design and agreed never to promote the topic in class again.

But critics of evolution got a boost in Kansas in November when the state Board of Education adopted new science teaching standards that treat evolution as a flawed theory, defying the view of science groups.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: biofraud; crevolist; scienceeducation
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To: Doctor Stochastic

double yum!!


441 posted on 02/28/2006 1:53:53 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Junior

Well since you can't understand theology what is the point anyway


442 posted on 02/28/2006 1:54:35 PM PST by zeeba neighba (What I'm reading now: The Word of the Lord)
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To: Doctor Stochastic

So much for the Romance languages; how about the Finnish - chinese - Bantu?


443 posted on 02/28/2006 1:55:08 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Junior

You didn't post any Indian eyewitness accounts. Do that and maybe I'll respond.


444 posted on 02/28/2006 1:55:49 PM PST by zeeba neighba (What I'm reading now: The Word of the Lord)
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To: ahayes
Anyone who had the slightest clue about the theory of evolution wouldn't make such a silly assumption.

That's why it's SUPPOSED to work: it didn't.

445 posted on 02/28/2006 1:56:10 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
And is therefore not eyewitness testimony, but is rather Mark's hearsay of Peter's alleged eyewitness testimony. QED.

Tell that to your secretary as you DICTATE a letter to her!

446 posted on 02/28/2006 1:57:02 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: zeeba neighba

"Well zeeba doesn't go down your little rat holes, stick to the matter at hand"

You first, oh veracity-challenged one.


447 posted on 02/28/2006 1:57:16 PM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (Tagline deleted at request of moderator.)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
It's hearsay. If you attempted to enter in a similar document as "testimony" in a court of law, it would not be classed as such. It's hearsay.

Nope... that is called a deposition.

448 posted on 02/28/2006 1:57:52 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: PatrickHenry
House lawmakers scuttled a bill that would have required public school students to be told that evolution is not empirically proven - the latest setback for critics of evolution.

What the heck is the house doing ? It is ascribing to itself the power to *REQUIRE* and *DETERMINE* what to teach and what not to when this is clearly a matter for PARENTS and TEACHERS in each school district to resolve ?

The proper thing to do is to bring the decision making process back to the local school districts, and let parents and community members who pay for the schools with their property taxes VOTE ON IT.
449 posted on 02/28/2006 1:58:23 PM PST by SirLinksalot
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To: Elsie

lol. I don't know Elsie, we are arguing with the B team. I guess the other ones have gone into the bowels of Darwin Central to cry when you showed up


450 posted on 02/28/2006 1:58:25 PM PST by zeeba neighba (What I'm reading now: The Word of the Lord)
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To: Junior

I once heard someone say something like, "Computers make very fast, but very accurate mistakes."


451 posted on 02/28/2006 1:58:30 PM PST by pby
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To: Elsie

I posted about this a while back.

There is a well-developed theory of language evolution. A lot of very clever people have been working on it for a very long time.

http://wiki.cotch.net/index.php/Linguistic_Evolution


452 posted on 02/28/2006 1:59:16 PM PST by gomaaa
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To: AmishDude
That is why we have specialists. Muckrakers if you will.

You MIGHT have to get that "CRIKEY - that's a mean one!" guy, for you COULD have ALLIGATORS!!!!

453 posted on 02/28/2006 2:00:21 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie

"Tell that to your secretary as you DICTATE a letter to her!"

Which I then read to ensure that the letter indeed says what I intended it to say, and then I sign the letter, authenticating it as my writing...

...and there is no signature on the Gospel of Mark, therefore, it is not authenticated, and is therefore not eyewitness testimony of any sort, and is therefore Mark's hearsay (assuming Mark actually wrote the thing). Again, QED.


454 posted on 02/28/2006 2:00:35 PM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (Tagline deleted at request of moderator.)
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To: zeeba neighba; Junior; Coyoteman
RE: Native Indian creation stories and other myths.

Doesn't the fact that the Aztecs had the Feathered Serpent God Quetzalcoatl, and the fact that science has discovered feathered dinosaurs, count as evidence that the Aztec Way is the True Way?

455 posted on 02/28/2006 2:00:56 PM PST by Virginia-American
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To: Elsie

"Nope... that is called a deposition."

No, it isn't. Unsigned documents that have not been notarized are not depositions.


456 posted on 02/28/2006 2:02:17 PM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (Tagline deleted at request of moderator.)
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To: Virginia-American

Oh why not, after all they worshipped the jaquar and look at it.. now its a car


457 posted on 02/28/2006 2:02:46 PM PST by zeeba neighba (What I'm reading now: The Word of the Lord)
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To: Elsie

ping me if the A team comes back, these guys are too dull for me, later


458 posted on 02/28/2006 2:05:23 PM PST by zeeba neighba (What I'm reading now: The Word of the Lord)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse; zeeba neighba
"...oh veracity-challenged one."

This coming from the poster that claims that Mark mislocated some important sites in Palestine?

Pot, kettle and black.

459 posted on 02/28/2006 2:06:03 PM PST by pby
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To: pby

"This coming from the poster that claims that Mark mislocated some important sites in Palestine?"

That's the way it looks to me--unless you really believed that, despite allegedly being sent first to convert the lost sheep of Israel, he chose to dawdle among the heathen.


460 posted on 02/28/2006 2:09:28 PM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (Tagline deleted at request of moderator.)
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