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Now moderate Muslims are angry too
Global Echo ^ | 2/27/06 | Yasmin Alibhai-Brown

Posted on 02/27/2006 12:19:31 PM PST by LibWhacker

So, Guantanamo Bay is an "anomaly" is it Mr Blair? Caging, manacling, beating, isolating, threatening, terrorising, torturing 500 - fathers, brothers, husbands, sons - seems to you just an oddity, an eccentricity, a peculiarity then? How could you not choke on your own words and splutter with shame even as you uttered them?

For four years they have hovered between life and death, some now praying for the latter, as I would too. They have to endure existence without time and reason, submit to brute power, pray in open enclosure while they are bitten and burnt, denied basic human dignity. Only nine inmates have thus far been charged. Having won their right to Habeas Corpus and to make their pleas in the US Supreme Court, that other dishonest charmer, Senator John McCain had that right removed. You, Mr Blair, know evil and collude with it. Your faithful oligarchy and obliging journalists are no better.

Human rights lie bloody and tattered in the US, Iraq, Israel, Afghanistan, Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Pakistan, secret "extraordinary rendition" centres on the European mainland and in our own prisons. And all the while you swish the cloak of virtue. If it wasn't such a scandal it would be funny, Bush and you, as Batman and Robin, flying through the skies to save the world.

This week, I have been at three events where the majority of people in the audience were educated, sharp Muslims, some exceedingly rich and good friends with key politicians and Prince Charles. Guantanamo Bay and the civil strife in Iraq are topics that now madden even these establishmentarians.

One gentleman took my elbow, shuffled me to a discreet corner and whispered: "I have been here for 40 years, dined with royalty. Today if I was young, I would go straight to Bin Laden. Mr Blair is a war criminal. Don't put my name down, but tell him we detest him." He then said my watch was too cheap and that he would be honoured to give me one more befitting my status. No thanks I said, I didn't need a bribe to say what I feel more every day.

What a waste of hope. Remember the idealistic young Prime Minister? We believed he would take us into a more equal, ethical and accountable Britain. He did deliver in some areas of social policy but all of that now hardly matters as Guantanamo Bay (and Iraq too) once again rise, refusing to be buried by good news. A searing new film, Road to Guantanamo, by Michael Winterbottom (to be shown on Channel 4 on 9 March) tells the story of three young, innocent British Muslim men from Tipton in the West Midlands who spent time in that hell. Their ankles still show indentations from the shackles.

Many people, including me, have asked, how could British citizens bomb London? Not enough have asked that other equally disturbing question: How can Britain consent to this violent injustice meted out to its citizens and others? For Blair the answer is obvious. it is payback for 11 September, when "everything changed" and presumably anything goes. A man fond of targets and numbers, he has not yet told us how many lives need to be paid for each of those poor people blown up in the US. How much bloodshed before the blown up are appeased?

We, the people, witness this arrogance and incessant dissembling and are helpless. Is it any wonder millions have lost faith in politics, honour, in language itself?

Today, Baroness Kennedy's Power Inquiry releases its findings on the democratic health of the nation. It is the biggest-ever national study of political engagement. Britons are not apathetic but are disengaging from a democracy which has turned into its own enemy. Real democrats are protecting themselves from the diseased body politic and its raving behaviour that is spreading a pandemic of fear. Guantanamo Bay is the boil. Never mind bird flu, it is Bush and Blair fever we must contain before it ravages the world.


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KEYWORDS: angry; blair; bush; gitmo; guantanamo; islam; moderate; muslims; trop
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To: dead
One gentleman took my elbow, shuffled me to a discreet corner and whispered: "I have been here for 40 years, dined with royalty. Today if I was young, I would go straight to Bin Laden. Mr Blair is a war criminal. Don't put my name down, but tell him we detest him." He then said my watch was too cheap and that he would be honoured to give me one more befitting my status.

I don't know about parody, but this guy is obviously too dense to know when someone's making a pass at him.

61 posted on 02/27/2006 2:19:27 PM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: dead

My bad, the author is an authoress.

But she's STILL too dense to know when someone's hitting on her.


62 posted on 02/27/2006 2:21:25 PM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: sageb1
"Caging, manacling, beating, isolating, threatening, terrorising, torturing 500 - fathers, brothers, husbands, sons - seems to you just an oddity, an eccentricity, a peculiarity then?"

Add murder and you could be speaking about the terrorists!!!!

63 posted on 02/27/2006 2:45:06 PM PST by chit*chat
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To: LibWhacker
When conditions at Guantanamo get anywhere near as bad as conditions in any arab prison (take your pick) or as bad as the conditions Western hostages have to endure at the hands of their arab abductors, then give us a ring.

Otherwise - STFU, a-hole!
64 posted on 02/27/2006 2:51:37 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Darwinism is a belief in the meaninglessness of existence - R. Kirk)
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To: dead
I'm still laughing at the watch reference.

Except I don't think it is parody.

65 posted on 02/27/2006 2:56:25 PM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: LibWhacker
Methinks that Yasmin came to the West, learned all the proper "outraged" words, all the trigger words to unleash liberals, but remained clueless about the concepts behind the words...

For instance, she is oblivious to the children's nursery rhyme, "Sticks and stones may break my bones... "
Too sophisticated for islam!

66 posted on 02/27/2006 3:49:03 PM PST by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: LibWhacker; USF
"...at three events where the majority of people in the audience were educated, sharp Muslims, some exceedingly rich and good friends with key politicians and Prince Charles. Guantanamo Bay and the civil strife in Iraq are topics that now madden even these establishmentarians..."

The 'establishmentarians' would seem to have sold the birthright of Britain and their souls to the arabs. As for the ugly Prince Charlie, a lobotomy and a turban might improve his IQ and cover his balding pate. And come to think of it, Camilla might be easier on the eye in a burqa.

The Author -Yasmin Alibhai-Brown photo:


67 posted on 02/27/2006 6:09:07 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Read the bio THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free! Click Fred Nerks for link to my Page.)
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To: Fred Nerks
Some of this sounds like a thinly veiled threat.

From the article about muslims at the verge of exploding, yet again:

Guantanamo Bay is the boil. Never mind bird flu, it is Bush and Blair fever we must contain before it ravages the world.

Wowsers... they know jihadi prisoners are trained to lie about abuse and mistreatment for propaganda purposes, as well as the role they play (Oh I was only receiving "religious education" at the maddrassah!) and yet the so-called "moderate muslims" will pick automatically show more allegiance towards them than their host nations.





Where was the British muslim "street" and their mass protests for 9/11's "defamation of islam" and these acts of prisoner abuse that are far worse than anything going on at Gitmo: Prisoner Abuse Photos from Iraq that MSM Won't Show You

There's the real sickness that's been spreading all over the world since the 7th Century and needs to be halted before it devours its way right across the globe.

As for the ignoramus, Prince Chuckie... he's as good as infected. A lobotomy wont be enough... He deserves the treatment the Brits served up for their mad cows:



Is Prince Charles a Convert to Islam?

Downing Street's Favorite – The Muslim Council of Britain

68 posted on 02/27/2006 6:38:57 PM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: LibWhacker

I hate liberals. They are also my enemy.


69 posted on 02/27/2006 6:45:57 PM PST by Porterville (Sure are a lot of these few Muslim Extremist Fanatics)
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To: LibWhacker

I hate liberals. They are also my enemy.


70 posted on 02/27/2006 6:45:58 PM PST by Porterville (Sure are a lot of these few Muslim Extremist Fanatics)
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To: MNJohnnie

Sorry, MN, it's going to take more than cluster bombs before this is over.


71 posted on 02/27/2006 6:48:56 PM PST by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name after Harper's election?)
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To: USF
Jan. 26, 2006 update: The Prince of Wales expressed his pleasure today at the progress in the UK of Shar‘i banking products at a conference in London to mark the 30th anniversary of the Islamic Development Bank: "I am certain that with the support of the Islamic Development Bank my charities will be able to increase their efforts to address the challenges we face in Britain's cities and help those younger British Muslims who feel they have little or no stake in society to play a fuller part in the country's affairs by promoting community and entrepreneurial development."

http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/119

IDIOT.

72 posted on 02/27/2006 6:53:50 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Read the bio THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free! Click Fred Nerks for link to my Page.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

"When will the West be able to cast aside the facade and honestly call our enemy by it's true name.

Islam."

But hey, let's sell our Port controls to the UAE.


73 posted on 02/27/2006 7:06:10 PM PST by Sweetjustusnow (Oust the IslamoCommies here and abroad.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Sorry, MN, it's going to take more than cluster bombs before this is over.

Yes, besides cluster bombs, it takes the will to employ them. Something our leaders seem to lack in spades. They aren't even willing to name mohammedanism as the threat so they certainly aren't a threat to the mohammedans.

Until the leadership of the west accepts the fact of the incompatible nature of mohammedanism with civilization, even our most powerful nukes are no more use than feather dusters to clean up the mess.
74 posted on 02/27/2006 7:15:00 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

I've kind of come to the same conclusion.


75 posted on 02/27/2006 7:23:32 PM PST by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name after Harper's election?)
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To: hgro

I agree, actually. These varmints have entirely too much time on their hands. Or even better, a chain gang in Alabama would be instructive--say, next August. If these pantywaists think we're hard on them, let them see how we treat our own criminals!


76 posted on 02/27/2006 7:26:48 PM PST by hinckley buzzard (at)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
I've kind of come to the same conclusion.

Sad, isn't it?
77 posted on 02/27/2006 7:40:52 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: butternut_squash_bisque; LS; Jeff Head; Travis McGee; Alamo-Girl; potlatch; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; ..











  NEVER  FORGET

78 posted on 02/27/2006 11:08:15 PM PST by devolve (<-- (upload to free image accts at Photobucket & Imagecave)
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To: devolve

That's funny, because I am angry, too, that we are coddling these Islamo-fascists! They need to get over themselves.


79 posted on 02/27/2006 11:18:55 PM PST by luvie (In... military families, I have seen the character of a great nation: decent, idealistic, strong.GWB)
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To: LibWhacker

A moderate muslim is merely a TIME-BOMB...


80 posted on 02/27/2006 11:25:51 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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