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Vanity - FR apparently targeted as source of spam
Vanity ^ | 2/26/2006 | Myself

Posted on 02/26/2006 1:10:52 PM PST by tang-soo

I apologize in advance for the vanity. I've been a member of FR since 1998 and I think this is the first time I've posted a vanity. However, I think it will be considered worthwhile.

My internet provider is sbc and my email domain name is sbcglobal.net. I wanted to share an observation with you concerning my email service.

Two weeks ago I sent a small email to about 125 people concerning the funeral arrangements for a fallen US soldier Jacob Spann. I had posted an article to FR about his death and explained that he was the son of a good friend of mine from church. The note spoke briefly about Jacob and inlcuded the information concerning his viewing and funeral arrangements. I also included a link to the FR story about Jacob.

As usual I copied myself on the bcc list of about 125 people (just to confirm the note actually was delivered). These 125 were from our church and a ministry that Jacob's father and I were both involved in. I did not get my copy and waited patiently, then noticed a note in my bulk mail box. This is a folder within sbc's interface to where "spam" notes are sent. Sure enough the note I had sent was there. I was a little miffed but thought nothing else about it other than think, wow, that was a pretty simple note, I wonder what triggered the spam marking.

A couple of days ago I sent another note to much of the same people. Again, it was a very short note about the autistic kid from NY that scored 20 points in 4 minutes the other day. Again, I included a link to a FR thread. Again, my copy ended up as spam.

I promise there was no mention in either note about Nigerian banking or viagra.

This started weighing on my mind. Under both circumstances I ran into sbc's limitation on the number of addresses you can include within an hour. This is another source of irritation but I do not neccessarily count it as a conspiracy. So both notes, I had to split into three separate emails of about fifty addresses each and submit the three notes over the course of two hours. SBC claims they enforce this rule in their attempt to fight spam. Also for each of these notes, I had to respond to their silly anti-spam tool where you get 4-5 squiggly characters shown and you have to repeat the characters in an input field to complete the transaction. More on this later.

I got to thinking this about this and tried a few experiments. I thought maybe my notes were triggered as spam because of the number of addresses used. I took my latest note and copied the text and made a new note that was identical but addressed it only to myself. Results - Squiggly interface - Spam!

Hmm, very simple note, the only thing out of the ordinary was that it included an external link (to FR). Okay, so I changed the portion of the link freerepublic to feerepublic - leaving the rest of the link alone. Guess what, no squiggly interface, the note went right away and NO SPAM. Starting to get a little hot now. But I thought well possibly since this was an invalid domain, it was not triggered as spam. So, I tried another experiment. I took the original link to FR and changed the freerepublic.com domain to cnn.com. Result - NO SQUIGGLY interface and NO SPAM.

Now I was really getting hot. Thoughts of switching service ... etc. Just to be sure, I tried one more experiment. I made a new email that was empty expect the line

http://www.freerepublic.com

and a subject heading of "test". No other text and no complete link to the thread just the domain name. Result - SQUIGGLY INTERFACE and SPAM!

Just to be complete, I repeated the last experiment but used

http://www.pbs.org

with a subject heading of "test". Result - NO SQUIGGLY INTERFACE and NO SPAM.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; censorship; conservatism; conservatives; despotism; fr; freepers; freerepublic; internet; leftistdepostism; orwelliannightmare; phonecompany; sbc; sbcdotyahoodotcom; sbcglobal; scanningemails; southwesternbell; spam; spamfilters; thoughtcrime; yahoo
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I'm pretty much convinced that FR is being targeted. I encourage you to try similar experiments. I'm also curious if other conservative sights experience the same results. I'm ticked and will pursue changing my provider.
1 posted on 02/26/2006 1:10:55 PM PST by tang-soo
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To: tang-soo
so far, i've had no problem sending fr links in large e-mail distributions.
2 posted on 02/26/2006 1:15:25 PM PST by Coleus (What were Ted Kennedy & his nephew doing on Good Friday, 1991? Getting drunk and raping women)
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To: Coleus

Who is your provider? Anyone with SBC care to try this experiment?


3 posted on 02/26/2006 1:17:11 PM PST by weegee ("Remember Chappaquiddick!"-Paul Trost (during speech by Ted Kennedy at Massasoit Community College))
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To: tang-soo

try one with the DU site, see what happens!


4 posted on 02/26/2006 1:17:49 PM PST by ferri (Be Politically Incorrect: Support the Constitution!)
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To: tang-soo
I'm pretty much convinced that FR is being targeted. I encourage you to try similar experiments. I'm also curious if other conservative sights experience the same results. I'm ticked and will pursue changing my provider.

I definitely would too.
But I would get a written explanation from them first. It should be a tapdancing classic...

5 posted on 02/26/2006 1:18:28 PM PST by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: tang-soo

Just a hunch, but I think the word "Free" might be triggering it -- as in the "Free Offer!" I get two million times a day.


7 posted on 02/26/2006 1:19:37 PM PST by JennysCool (Liberals don't care what you do, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: tang-soo

I can tell you it does NOt happen with Bellsouth (or at least not with my account). I email links back and forth to mself to and from both home and work.

See what happens whey you email a DU or KOS link. I'm very curious about this.

Before you drop them as your ISP, it would be nice to find some answers as for how FR endedup on their spam list.


8 posted on 02/26/2006 1:20:03 PM PST by WayneM (Remember; "Saturday people first. Sunday people next.")
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To: Timesink; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; GOPJ; ...

Media Schadenfreude and and Media Shenanigans PING

Anyone care to assist in this experiment to see if SBC Global (sbcglobal.net) is diverting Free Republic related emails to a SPAM folder?


9 posted on 02/26/2006 1:21:19 PM PST by weegee ("Remember Chappaquiddick!"-Paul Trost (during speech by Ted Kennedy at Massasoit Community College))
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To: JennysCool

Freedom isn't free nor is it dumb. ;)


10 posted on 02/26/2006 1:22:30 PM PST by weegee ("Remember Chappaquiddick!"-Paul Trost (during speech by Ted Kennedy at Massasoit Community College))
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I have had that very thing happen to me with Yahoo.
It has been an ongoing thing for about a year.

I've not noticed they targeted FR specifically. When I
include any link for verification I get that squiggly
box deal.
12 posted on 02/26/2006 1:23:10 PM PST by ThreePuttinDude ()......Politically incorrect by Intelligent Design........()
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To: tang-soo

The word "free" is often associated with spam. Try some tests with "www.freemoney.com", "www.freemusic.com", etc.


13 posted on 02/26/2006 1:23:20 PM PST by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: tang-soo
Two weeks ago I sent a small email to about 125 people ...........

That is your problem right there. You sent one e-mail to 125 people and the spam filter assumes it is spam. It has absolutely nothing to do with the content of your message.

We have the same problem when my son's Boy Scout Troop sends out one letter with 30 addressees on it. It ends up in the spam box.

14 posted on 02/26/2006 1:23:30 PM PST by Polybius
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To: ferri

DU works.


15 posted on 02/26/2006 1:23:31 PM PST by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: weegee

Very good!


16 posted on 02/26/2006 1:24:23 PM PST by JennysCool (Liberals don't care what you do, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: tang-soo
I have a sbcglobal.net email address and just sent myself an email with a FR link attached. Went straight to the spam folder. I have been having problems though with friends' emails being directed there, so I'm not sure about your theory yet. I have Blue Frog Spam Reporter installed (just recently) and I attributed the problem to that prgm. Hard to say.
19 posted on 02/26/2006 1:25:48 PM PST by Dysart
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To: WayneM

Everything is trapped as spam now. It seems like that only thing that actually gets through with any regularity are the real spam messages themselves.


20 posted on 02/26/2006 1:26:14 PM PST by willyd
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