Posted on 02/26/2006 6:50:55 AM PST by Dark Skies
As I inadvertently failed to mention in an earlier column on the subject, the ports in question already were managed by a British company, which is selling the operational rights to Dubai Ports World with American approval. As I've now written in countless e-mails, "Some foreign companies are more foreign than others."
Great Britain, though home to the infamous shoe bomber, is nonetheless a blood brother in the war against terror. The UAE is now being lauded as helpful in that global fight, but its history relative to terrorism is problematic. The emirates joined Pakistan and Saudi Arabia in recognizing the Taliban as the official government of Afghanistan. The UAE also was a transfer point for shipments of nuclear components to Iran, North Korea and Libya.
Given that history, it's hard to pretend that there's no reason whatsoever for concerns about Dubai Ports, a government-owned company, managing U.S. ports.
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Dane, as I explained to jeremiah, it is well known here that you have no loyalty or principle higher than cheap labor lobby greed. And as I explained 30 years ago there were battalions of 'General Franks' singing the praises of Imperial Iran. After all, when a general retires he looks for a job with the very same firms that provided 'contractors' and other services to the Middle East.
MEMO:
The honorable Tommy Franks was NOT privy to all the details pertianing to this deal with Dubia, NOR is he NOT a politician, is he??
"Of course Americans can work in the Muslim world. Provided they stay within their fortified compounds."
Well, what about Western Europe? There's millions of Muslims there; and according to you, they're all terrorists, right? So why aren't there THOUSANDS of suicide bombings there every day?
Gee, in the last month there were .... none ....
Not only do I trust General Franks, I think there are several other Muslims who don't fit in with the new phobia;
"The foundation of the faith, or Shahada, is the testimony in the belief in one God and that Muhammad is the messenger of God," Army Chaplain (Capt.) Abdul-Rasheed Muhammad, Walter Reed Army Medical Center.
"Those terrorists must be reading a completely different Koran than the rest of us," said Marine Corps Capt. Aisha Bakkar-Poe.
[The terrorists claiming to act in the name of Islam is] "like a knife through my heart -- that people would practice Al-Islam, but do deeds like what they've done. It's not true faith. Some people twist religion to the way they think." Army Capt. Arneshuia Balial, a nurse instructor at Walter Reed Army Medical Center.
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Oct2001/n10042001_200110043.html
“Not every Arabic person is a terrorist. I wish people would understand that we aren’t all bad; we’re good people, we’re freedom-loving people. Unfortunately, a small portion of our people are misrepresenting us.” “I joined the Army to serve the country whose way of living I believe in and to prove to the whole world that not every Arabic Muslim is a terrorist,” “The way I see it, my life is a cheap price to pay for this nation’s freedom. I’m an American Soldier, now and forever,” Pfc. Shady Hamad, E Company, 1st Battalion, 19th Infantry Regiment.
http://www.tradoc.army.mil/pao/people_portraits/061104.htm
"It’s not the religion of Islam that’s making people do this (terrorism). They should read the Quran because the message is peace.” "The things that Saddam did over there, the oppression, it’s disgusting." "They (Iraqi women) would hold my hand and look at (me) like they were trying to figure out — ‘Your husband let you be in the military?’" "They all accepted me as their sister." National Guard Sgt. Tanya Abdul-Karim Williams, 118th Medical Battalion, recently completed one year tour in Iraq.
http://www.nhregister.com/site/news.cfm?
newsid=14974872&BRD=1281&PAG=461&dept_id=517515&rfi=6
"As a society, we're not encouraged to talk about religion or politics," Muhammad said. "The fact that in the military, in certain circles, you feel comfortable doing that is a reflection of the caliber of the people that are in the military today." Air Force Capt. "Muhammad" whose real name is withheld for security reasons and was present in his work place, the Pentagon, September 11, 2001.
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Dec2002/n12112002_200212115.html
“Instead of running, he stood forward to the oncoming taxi to prevent it from going inside. Even being in Iraq, surrounded by moral peril, I knew he would do the right thing. That he was there to protect and to save lives." Shahrayar Khan, older brother of Capt. Humayun Khan who died in Iraq trying to stop a suicide bomber.
http://www.patrioticapaam.org/VOA-SuicideBomber.htm
"Dad, I would never do that. This is my country and I will do whatever it takes," National Guard Spc. David Roustum, in reply to his Fathers suggestion he flee to Syria to avoid serving in Iraq. Killed while serving with the 108th Infantry Regiment, Baghdad.
http://www.patrioticapaam.org/soldierdiesiraq.htm
General Franks must be pretty uninformed if he thinks the UAE is cooperative with the US. Given the fact that they voted with the US only 5 out of 79 times at the UN in 2004 (2005 records not found yet), I'd say their not quite on our side...despite his opinion to the contrary.
yea their not on our side, only 40-50% of the goods that our troops get in Iraq go through the Ports of Dubai, Our Navy use ports there including Air Craft Carriers, and our KC-130 refueling airplanes are based there, we also get intel from them, and they buy our weapons including f-16's other than that they hate us.
But the millions of European muslims aren't assimilating either, are they? And in each country in which these unassimilated muslims live, there are already "no go" zones in which the police and fire departments are not permitted. IIRC, in Marseilles, the mayor wanted to meet with a local imam regarding the maintainance of civil order and he was told the he couldn't enter the "muslim zone"...that it was off limits to non-muslims.
Just curious as to your thoughts on such as that?
While it is important to be careful not to tar all muslims with this brush, it is also just as important to understand that the key to this war is islam and the prophet's own influence. Go to faithfreedom.org and read what ex-muslims say about islam...it isn't pretty.
Fanatical islam is a demonic cult...muslims are its first victims.
And you sir I see use hillary/schumer type untruthful smears, but what the hey, that's what people like are you expected to spout.
As has been repeated said, how can anyone say that freepers who see islam as the enemy are "racists"? I have had wonderful friends that are moderate muslims and a branch of my family is even of middle eastern (Christian) descent. Identifying fundamental islam as a killer of life and freedom doesn't seem like a racial thing to me. However, turning one's back on the threat of fundamental islam seems like pure appeasement...and we all know where that leads.
Great thread, DS.
Keep up the strong work.
Again, nicely summarized!
As well, there are many who "lay claim" to being muslim just as many say that they are Christians simply b/c they were "raised" that way and they attend church on Christmas and Easter. They're some form of apostate.
They are fine people no doubt, but the problem for the non-islamic communit is that we have absolutely no way of telling the difference. When you try to reconcile the fact that they say they are muslims with what the Koran says, some "lines have been drawn," and not by non-muslims!
LOL... It didn't take more than a few posts by her to realize that "something was up." :D
Notice she hasn't responded to me since when confronted with actually putting up some facts, evidence, and other contributions.
Islam strikes me as a kind of disease, its uglier strains lie dormant in some people who even base their lives on the more peaceful parts of the koran (however few and far between).
But some muslims are drawn into the death cult part of islam...and it is profound in its power to grip individuals and groups and to force them into preverse acts. Whether a person looks at this aspect of islam from the psychological/behavioral point of view or from the religious point of view...this kind of islam is destructive and rage-driven at its very core.
So stop tarring everybody with a wide brush.
Most Muslims are hard-working, not violent, and want to get along with the world. A minority is hard-core radical, JUST AS IN Judaism (that Kach group) and Christianity (Bader-Meinhof, Branch Davidians, etc.
So get off your hatefest and stop throwing gasoline on the fire.
Alright Canuck, let's engage. First of all, can you please tell all the boys and girls here how you distinguish from "good" muslims or those that don't have intentions on harming anyone from those that are of the "bad" or harmful variety? Please, by all means, share your years of accumulated wisdom with us in "how to break down the intentions of a 'so-called' muslim merely upon seeing them?" We're all ears!
Secondly, this is, again, what happens when you read a post or two and make all of your judgements on me based on those. I don't "broadbrush" anyone. I have read the Koran. Have you? If so, please, tell me that you don't see anything in there that troubles you? Let's hear it.
As I've said a million times, until there is some means of distinguishing between the two, "good" and "bad" as it were as people go, we must side with what Islam teaches.
Also, what's your opinion on a man, Mohammed in this case, who was essentially a terrorist, married a 6-year old girl, consumated that marriage when she was 9, claims he saw a vision from the angel Gabriel that no one else ever saw or heard, questioned himself as to whether he had had a Satanic vision, decided "no, it was clean," then penned a tome labeling everyone on the planet infidels and endorsing world takeover (w/o prescribing the methods employed there thereby leaving it up to his followers) and forced conversions to Islam or death or subjection to the point of paying taxes to muslims? Let's hear your opinion on that please!
The "hatefest" as you say it, is on the side of muslims. It's right in their Koran. Naturally you haven't flipped a leaf before declaring yourself an expert on Islam however, isn't that right?
Regardless, I'm merely responding to what's written in that "marvelous" book! And what, praytell, is your response to all the genocides that have taken place over the past couple of decades in the name of Islam? Love to hear that. And no, I wasn't involved there.
Most Muslims are hard-working, not violent, and want to get along with the world. A minority is hard-core radical, JUST AS IN Judaism (that Kach group) and Christianity (Bader-Meinhof, Branch Davidians, etc.
And that's really, really weak! If I ran out and found a person of your ethnic, religious, and other background that had raped a handful of women, could I then use it to say that all of your [traited persons] aren't bad. Absurd!
Bader Meinhof and the Branch Davidians had nothing to do with Christianity. Apparently you haven't read the Bible either. Ditto for Kach. the fact that you try to lump them in as orthodox Jews and Bible believing Christians only reveals your ignorance on the matter.
Now Islam on the other hand, you can read it for yourself, and quite frankly, you should. Then come back and argue your points! You're either clearly clueless as to what the Koran says or so ridiculously unobjective that it matters not for you what the truth and facts are. You choose. I trust that it is the former.
Islam is what it is. To expect the Koran to change is hopeless! Until you or someone else can find a way to eye someone down that claims to be muslim, and see into their hearts their intentions, truly Koranic or not, it is ridiculous to assume that no harm can be done as a result of Islam being introduced and spreading in free societies.
As well, are you blind to all of the woes brought upon the world in recent history at the hands of muslims? Go check out the State Dept.'s list of nations with the greateset human rights violations for a change. Dang son!
Oh yeah, I'll be awaiting your answer to my questions about Mohammed!
All I know is that among the first ten chapters of the Koran, among other things, one will find the following:
[2.193] And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah
[4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.
[4.95] The holders back from among the believers, not having any injury, and those who strive hard in Allah's way with their property and their persons are not equal
[4.144] O you who believe! do not take the unbelievers for friends rather than the believers; do you desire that you should give to Allah a manifest proof against yourselves?
[5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.
[8.39] And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah; but if they desist, then surely Allah sees what they do.
[9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
[9.11] But if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, they are your brethren in faith (The "poor rate" is a tax on non-muslims to muslims)
So much for religious freedom, eh!!
[9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.
[9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!
[9.33] He it is Who sent His Apostle with guidance and the religion of truth, that He might cause it to prevail over all religions, though the polytheists may be averse.
[9.123] O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil). I have absolutely no idea how someone can read that and not be utterly disturbed. If the same thing were found in the Bible, I'm sure there'd be a world wide crusade to eradicate Christianity!
P.S. That's just the first 10 chapters out of 114!
It is vile and blasphemous book (from a Christian POV). I am always astonished that people like Mansour Ijaz (who is a very bright and sociable muslim) can actually believe that mohammed is a peaceful fellow.
Either way, there's clearly a hatred of non-muslims, Christians and Jews in particular. Yet, for simply recognizing these Islamic teachings, those saying "hey, that duck is a duck" are labeled hate-mongers. It's truly unbelieveable!
One would think that if they were proud of their religion, they'd be happy that people were reading their Koran and seeing and identifying what was in it. I don't know how that can be so however.
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