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Ratner's Anti-Globalization Rant: No Foreigners Should Own Ports
Fox & Friends Weekend/NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 02/25/2006 5:15:41 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

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To: Miss Marple

If Tommy says it's okay...that's good enough for me.


61 posted on 02/25/2006 6:04:14 AM PST by aligncare (Watergate killed journalism)
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To: aligncare
Remember, our objective is to defeat the JIHADISTS - not revive the 'Ugly American'.

At least you are honest about despising Americans.

62 posted on 02/25/2006 6:04:44 AM PST by raybbr (ANWR is a barren, frozen wasteland - like the mind of a democrat!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Hopkins: "Are we going to cherry pick and hold Arabs to different standards?"

Apparently Arab is the PC term for muslims when discussing issues that affect national security.

There's a big difference between "foreign investors" that are and have been strong allies of the US with a proven track record of exactly that and those that have a somewhat opposite track record in many significant ways and one that is laden with a type of people, namely muslim here, that sponsor just about all of the world's terrorism and a very good chunk of its fascist activities otherwise!

It's sad that many can't seem to see that and at least understand the need to perhaps look into this further. But no, W says, so the sheep jump!

We can start a new game: W Says. It works kind of like Simon says! LOL

Just watch, as a staunch conservative I'll be blasted for this single point!

Would we have invited a Russian "financial" company in to run our ports during the cold war?

Would we allow a Saudi company to do this? Hell, some of the same "positive" things said about the UAE and Dubai can be said about the Saudis and more probably. Yet I couldn't see that happening.

And haven't we learned the lessons of mosques being built under the guises of "religion" yet being breeding grounds for Wahhabi style terror organizations around the world?

Have we learned somewhere along the line to distinguish between a smiling muslim that's "getting along with us" purely out of sincereity with a smiling muslim that's "getting along with us" yet merely awaiting an opportunity to "slit our throats?"

Apparently we have. I just wish someone would let the secret out!

Lastly, if running these ports is so damned non-lucrative as has been put forth as an excuse, then whey the eagerness on the part of DPW to want to run these?

Of course in my case, W didn't say. So I guess I'm wrong!

63 posted on 02/25/2006 6:06:58 AM PST by Fruitbat
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I saw this exchange, what stood out most is that Ratner ( apt name) doesn't have a dog in this hunt.

She's frankly ignorant on the real issue. You could tell from her facial expressions that she was in it only to gain political ground against Dubya and the repubs.

She was so giddy & squirming in her seat I wouldn't be surprised if she didn't wet herself. Nothing but "crocodile concerns" & political expediancy.

64 posted on 02/25/2006 6:07:36 AM PST by Kakaze (I'm now a single issue voter.....exterminate Al Quaida)
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To: Chuck54

...And don't forget to mention that the Pentagon is also okay with this. I love our Military and trust them implicitly.


65 posted on 02/25/2006 6:07:55 AM PST by aligncare (Watergate killed journalism)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Well obviously she is stuck on stupid, a foreign corporation owned the contracts to park ships before they decided to sell and UAE won the bid.

Problem is these liberals are not held to their own words and convictions and continually muddy the water regarding what is required to keep this nation secure.

Sadly a majority of Americans polled in favor of bjclinton in spite of knowing his true nature and today a majority are buying the liberal trot that President Bush sold our ports to an Arab country.


66 posted on 02/25/2006 6:09:36 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: RGSpincich

.....operating spots .....

You're on the right track but to sharpen it up, they lease space for terminals. The flap in question is about P&O terminals operating in the various ports.

The key to efficient steam ship operation is efficient terminal operation. A ship is in a different American port every day or so as it proceeds on it's tightly scheduled voyage. First New York then Baltimore or Norfolk then Charleston or Savannah. Then back across the Atlantic. To schedule a regular weekly or biweekly call, it cannot tarry in the terminal. The terminal must act speedily to load and unload the vessel. The terminal that does the best job lowers costs for the steamship line in a very competitive business.

The Dubai company that is by the way owned by Arabs but certainly staffed by American and Brit and Indian managers has sharpened and honed these logistic skills to first class sharpness.

The hue and cry by the anti's is total blather based on extreme ignorance.


67 posted on 02/25/2006 6:09:49 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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To: Echo Talon
"I think our national security will be damaged worse if they block this deal, and we lose the UAE's cooperation. Hell, if we piss them off enough, they could nuke us anyhow they still operate ports in some 18 different countries."

I've bolded exactly why we SHOULD fear them.

Quite frankly, this deal is a mere bag of shells within the realm of affecting their economy.

68 posted on 02/25/2006 6:10:07 AM PST by F16Fighter (Government is not reason [but]..a dangerous servant and a fearful master.~ George Washington)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
If Pres. Bush had publicly announced that he had vetoed a proposed UAE port deal, I am absolutely convinced that Ratner would have been on there today denouncing Bush for anti-Arab bigotry and ethnic profiling.

I would venture a guess that you are right on that point.

69 posted on 02/25/2006 6:12:08 AM PST by aligncare (Watergate killed journalism)
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To: Fruitbat
"Have we learned somewhere along the line to distinguish between a smiling muslim that's 'getting along with us' purely out of sincereity with a smiling muslim that's 'getting along with us' yet merely awaiting an opportunity to 'slit our throats?'"

Lol, I wonder how many "racist" and xenophobe" replies you'll get?

70 posted on 02/25/2006 6:12:19 AM PST by F16Fighter (Government is not reason [but]..a dangerous servant and a fearful master.~ George Washington)
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To: sport
"Did she mention Long Beach, CA?"

If a lib, like Slick Willie, sells us out to the Chicoms, it is OK with them.
After all, it is the brotherhood of scums and socialist.
71 posted on 02/25/2006 6:13:22 AM PST by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia)
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To: F16Fighter

LOL, yeah, no kidding. Plenty no doubt.


72 posted on 02/25/2006 6:14:48 AM PST by Fruitbat
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To: fragrant abuse
Ratner has lost it. Apparently we're supposed to conjure into existence an American company capable of and willing to manage these ports. Or does she want the government to take control of them? Just what we need, bigger government running more stuff.

A likely motivation of the Left, I would say.

73 posted on 02/25/2006 6:15:31 AM PST by aligncare (Watergate killed journalism)
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To: PGalt

The Right is foolishly giving weight to the Democrat's argument that this administration is weak on defense.

...Just eight months to the next election...

Everyone in unison say it loud: "The Democrats are tough on defense...". Keep repeating until the squishy middle buys it and elects a Democrat majority. I shudder to think...


74 posted on 02/25/2006 6:23:53 AM PST by aligncare (Watergate killed journalism)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Ratner and Levin perfect together. And the preacher who married them is Hannity.


75 posted on 02/25/2006 6:27:41 AM PST by OldFriend
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To: OldFriend

Oy vey!


76 posted on 02/25/2006 6:31:19 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show Since 2002 So You Don't Have To.)
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To: bert
The Dubai company that is by the way owned by Arabs but certainly staffed by American and Brit and Indian managers has sharpened and honed these logistic skills to first class sharpness.

The hue and cry by the anti's is total blather based on extreme ignorance.

Consider me one of the "blatherers" then bert! Humor me!!!

What, most specifically does DPW have influence over in this?

What do they do when they get to work, the DPW employees that is, on a daily basis? They show up and do what? Write checks, sweep floors in a closed room with no windows and no computers housing critical information re: our ports, or what?

Are you telling us that they'd have absolutely no information that could ever be used by terrorists should it fall into the wrong hands?

Why do you call them "Arabs" now instead of Muslims? Just curiuos, b/c Dubai and the UAE are almost entirely muslim. Check me if I'm wrong, but isn't that where most if not all major terrorists hale from?

Let's suppose that DPW wanted to allow one or two "dubious" people into certain positions, could they do it, and could it in any way be harmful to the US? Can you answer that it would not and provide us the detailed reasons as to why not?

What if they wanted a "person of dubious intent" in there to pass along pertinent information to would-be terrorists or others intent on harming our nation, could they do it? And I'm not talking simply info re: our ports, but anything.

What information, specifically, do they have access to bert?

Just blathering on here...

Oh yeah, while I've been a huge Bush supporter, can you please tell me, us, exactly and specifically what W's major successes are on border control and how those translate to success and an awareness of the problem in this matter? Inquiring minds want to know!

B/c as many of us "blatherers" see it, if W's policies, apparently unless you have something to offer there, are to serve as the guide, he doesn't really appear to see much of a security issue with the borders and appears to be willing to throw national security to the four winds in that way simply for purposes of what he and his administration deem some sort of economic necessity.

Can you prove the opposite with the borders?

If not, can you prove to us that the same philosophy of economics over national security does not exist with the ports?

So pardon me "in my ignorance" as you stated the antis were. And for the record, I for one, an not "anti," but given W's track record on national security and his sucking up to the muslim world, the cornerstone of worldwide terror, I'd sure like to see a little more evidence that there is absolutely no opportunity for any negative ramifications at all in this deal. And no, I don't trust muslims. Neither should you unless you're naive, you infidel you!

77 posted on 02/25/2006 6:31:55 AM PST by Fruitbat
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Ratner this morning................. never uglier in spirit and in her putrid skin.


78 posted on 02/25/2006 6:33:54 AM PST by beyond the sea (Alan Simpson: "All you get is controversy, crap, and confusion from the media.")
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To: bert

Oh yeah, I'll be awaiting detailed responses to those questions given your highly informed and utterly "non-ignorant" position here.

I'll expect those answers to be relatively long, so I trust that you won't post a five paragraph answer since there's no way that they can be effectively answered in so short a space.

But you should have all of this info at your fingertips given your well-informed, apparently, stance here. So I also trust that it won't take too long, say more than 24 for you to articulate your defense.


79 posted on 02/25/2006 6:34:36 AM PST by Fruitbat
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To: F16Fighter

I don't believe there is political correctness at work here. I believe that making friends and allies of certain elements within the Middle East, is good war strategy. Keep your eyes on the prize...We must defeat the JIHADISTS, not the entire Muslim world. (BTW, the Pentagon and Tommy Franks has said okay to this transaction - Do not worry, my friend)


80 posted on 02/25/2006 6:35:15 AM PST by aligncare (Watergate killed journalism)
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