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LIVE THREAD: Senate Hearing: Briefing on Ports Deal (11:00 a.m. EST)
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Posted on 02/23/2006 6:58:42 AM PST by Howlin

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To: farmer18th

The President and I disagree with you about the value of said deal.


782 posted on 02/23/2006 2:13:52 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: atlaw

A perfectly legitimate concern, which I presume FCIUS considered in the approval process, and which (considering the number of terrorists in Great Britain) existed previously. Not much in this complex world is risk-free.


783 posted on 02/23/2006 2:17:34 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: Howlin

I just heard the President is willing to go with a delay in order to address security concerns.


784 posted on 02/23/2006 2:20:43 PM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: Wasanother
I just heard the President is willing to go with a delay in order to address security concerns.

I certainly hope that's correct.

785 posted on 02/23/2006 2:23:40 PM PST by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: atlaw

This used to be the most informative publication for the shipping industry -- Journal of Commerce -- requires a subscription, which I let lapse a while back as I don't handle anything that would make it worthwhile anymore.
http://www.joc.com/

They have a freebie offer, try for a month and cancel.


786 posted on 02/23/2006 2:25:14 PM PST by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: Wasanother

That's too bad.


787 posted on 02/23/2006 2:33:51 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: buffmonster; Diva Betsy Ross
Good to see it doesn't take much to sell you, but other people need more info to be convinced. Republican doesn't mean clone.

I like to call myself a free-thinking Republican. Knee-jerk reactions, no matter which corner of the political spectrum it eminates from, is a big turn off for me. It just tells me, someone, somebody, or a group of people haven't thought things out.

788 posted on 02/23/2006 2:35:01 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Proud to be a cotton-pickin' Republican on the GOP Plantation)
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To: clawrence3

I don't find myself sweating that one. Probably face saving for the kneejerk Congresscritters...


789 posted on 02/23/2006 2:37:17 PM PST by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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To: clawrence3

Don't sweat it. The hysterical figures have had their day in the sun, it's time to get the fact out.


790 posted on 02/23/2006 2:38:31 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Proud to be a cotton-pickin' Republican on the GOP Plantation)
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To: buffmonster

So what is your answer then....


791 posted on 02/23/2006 2:44:42 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Embrace peace- Hug an American soldier- the real peace keepers.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
I am definitely a Conservative, (have had a few knee jerks myself in the past) and I don't always agree with the prez- but bashing him on this one is silliness.
792 posted on 02/23/2006 2:51:42 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Embrace peace- Hug an American soldier- the real peace keepers.)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
I quite honestly never thought of you as the knee-jerking type of poster! You're a rational, reasoned and calm poster!

:)


793 posted on 02/23/2006 2:54:49 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Proud to be a cotton-pickin' Republican on the GOP Plantation)
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To: clawrence3

I'm still on the fence with this one but with the delay it should help people one way or another in deciding.


794 posted on 02/23/2006 2:55:29 PM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: clawrence3

Apparently the president wants to delay the deal.


795 posted on 02/23/2006 2:58:24 PM PST by farmer18th
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To: Howlin; All

This is being re-aired on C-SPAN at 6:01 PM (coming up).


796 posted on 02/23/2006 2:58:26 PM PST by TheLion
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To: farmer18th

"Willing to" does not equate with "wants to" - as I already stated, he and I already disagree with you about the value of said deal.


797 posted on 02/23/2006 3:07:11 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: atlaw

I still maintain you couldn't have watched much of that hearing at all. Did you know that legislation crafted by Congress requires that CFIUS work in strict secrecy? So your post previously that "Bush didn't even know" is a little over the top, wouldn't you say?

j
CFIUS is an interagency body staffed by midlevel officials and chaired by the Treasury Department. The Departments of Defense, State, Justice, and Commerce are among the agencies that participate in the CFIUS process. Representatives from the Federal Bureau of Investigation (“FBI”) and the intelligence community are also involved, sometimes in an advisory capacity. President Bush made the Department of Homeland Security (“DHS”) a member of CFIUS in February 2003.

http://www.law.indiana.edu/fclj/pubs/v57/no3/Lewis.pdf


798 posted on 02/23/2006 3:15:31 PM PST by Peach
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To: Howlin

UPDATED LIST 02-23-05 5:30 p.m. CDT

A running updated list of those for and those against UAE running US ports?

AGAINST

FReeper Poll
was 56.2% is 54.2%

New York Gov. George Pataki (R)
Maryland Gov. Robert Ehrlich (R) [Wants more info]
Baltimore Mayor, Martin J. O'Malley (D)
Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell
Sean Hannity
Mark Levin
Michael Savage
Senator Chuck Schumer (D)
Senate Republican Leader Bill Frist
Michelle Malkin
Debbie Schlussel
Rep. Peter King (R)
Rep. Curt Weldon (R)
Senator Tom Coburn (R)
Senator Hillary Clinton (D)
Frank Gaffney, Jr
House Speaker Denis Hastert (R)
NJ Governor Jon Corzine (D)
Laura Ingraham
Bill Bennett
Rep Mark Foley (R)
Senator Barbara Boxer (D)
Joe Scarborough
Senator Norm Coleman (R) [To hold hearings next month]
Rep. Vito Fossella (R)
Jay D. Homnick, The American Prowler
James Lileks
Senator Robert Menendez (D)
Senator Lindsay Graham (R)
Joseph Farah
Senator Rick Santorum (R)
NYC Mayor Mike Bloomberg (R)
NYPost.com
Senator Dianne Feinstein (D)
Senator Susan Collins (R)
Rep. Jane Harman (D)
Senate Democrat Leader Harry Reid
NY Daily News
Neal Boortz
Hugh Hewitt
Rep. J. D. Hayworth (R)
Senator Joseph Biden, D-Del.
Rep. Sue Myrick, R-N.C. ["...not just NO -- but HELL NO!"]
Rep. Vito Fossella, R-N.Y.
Rep. Jim Saxton, R-N.J
Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, (R)
Ann Coulter
House Majority Leader John Boehner
Glen Beck
Rachel Ehrenfeld, Director of American Center for Democracy
Maj. Gen. Paul E Vallely (ret)
Port Authority for Port Newark
Rep Tom DeLay


FOR

FReeper Poll
was 30.2% is 31.8%

President George W. Bush (R)
and Bush Admin Personnel: Rumsfeld, Chertoff, Mineta, Alberto Gonzalez, [probable] Rice, Cheney

Former President Jimmy Carter (D)
Tony Snow
Rush Limbaugh
AJ Strata
Blogs for Bush
Sea2Sea
FL Governor Jeb Bush (R)
Senator John McCain (R) [goes 'undecided']
Tom Ridge
Dan Bartlett
Dick Meyer, CBS News
Edward "Ted" H. Bilkey, Chief operating officer, Dubai Ports World
former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle
former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright
Bill Kristol
Senator Joe Lieberman
Michael Medved
Bob Dole
Ken Mehlman, RNC Chairman
Senator John Warner (R)
Bill O'Reilly
Steve Forbes
Gen. Tommy Franks (ret)
Roger Cressey, National Security Council member



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Makin' a list,
Checkin' it twice,
Gonna find out who's naughty and nice,
Dubai is comin' to town.....


799 posted on 02/23/2006 3:28:40 PM PST by TomGuy
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