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Long Beach Longshoreman Threatens the Host (Rush Limbaugh)
The Rush Limbaugh Show ^ | 2/22/06 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 02/23/2006 6:28:31 AM PST by RushCrush

RUSH: Jerry in Long Beach, I'm glad you waited, sir, welcome to the program.

CALLER: Uh, Rush, I'm a proud member of the longshoremen's union.

RUSH: Yes, sir.

CALLER: I don't appreciate you attacking our union, try to make this part of this debate. Are you telling us that Republicans don't care about our jobs? Are you telling us that Republicans want to break our union?

RUSH: No.

CALLER: Is that what this deal was about?

RUSH: No! No.

CALLER: Or is this about -- Or is this about President --

RUSH: There you go again! There you go stereotyping! There you go stereotyping.

CALLER: Is he afraid he's not going to get his commission?

RUSH: I'm telling you that from everything I know, nothing's going to change. I have said this for the past two days.

CALLER: So why are you attacking my union?

RUSH: I'm not "attacking your union"! I'm simply pointing out who your union donates to and explaining why Schumer and Hillary and these other Democrats are speaking out in opposition to the deal. While they're telling us it's about national security, it's not, they're telling it because they're trying to loyal to you. You're the ones that --

CALLER: What you're not saying is that this is a violation of the Trading with Enemies Act. You couple this with the violation of the Espionage Act, a violation of the Foreign Intelligence --

RUSH: It's none of that.

CALLER: -- Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, you've got this president committing three felonies, sir!

RUSH: It's none of that!

CALLER: He's a criminal.

RUSH: (laughing)

CALLER: And what you're doing is criminal -- and don't you attack my union!

RUSH: I didn't attack your union, but I'm about to start --

CALLER: Well, let's get it on, buddy.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: dhpl; goons; longshoremensunion; lowiqthugs; meatheads; pluguglies; rush; thugs; unions
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To: Skip Ripley

But isn't it illegal for different unions to act in concert?


141 posted on 02/23/2006 8:39:34 AM PST by Borges
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

"Needed in what way? To ensure wage controls against nations that make things for half the costs? I have no dog in this fight, and I really don't know how it is going to play out in 50 years."

I have no dog in the fight either. Other than being an American. I'm non union, never have been union.
If the balance of power shifts to employers, employers will grow more and more abusive. Without unions funding lobbys, laws will change. Eventually working conditions will come to a point where some intervention would be needed.
A union?


142 posted on 02/23/2006 8:40:07 AM PST by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: Calpernia
You have never been on seen when the invite was declined?

OH SO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT ME HUH. YOU'RE NOT MAN ENOUGH TO SAY ON TOPIC HUH BUDDY?????

Sorry about that-- you were bringing to mind fond memories of my younger days working through college by playing guitar in a redneck bar.   What I remember is by 2pm Sat. night all the customers were either in a fight or in love.  Some of those clowns tried picking fights with me (some how it always seemed like it was some short guy, maybe desperate to prove something) but I was at work and always too busy.  Shortie usually found what he was looking for elsewhere.

I take it that by asking me to talk about my experiences that you have none.

143 posted on 02/23/2006 8:41:45 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: wideawake
Good morning.
"While I agree that one union may be more reasonable and less violent than others, unions are still wrong in principle."

I think it is less a case being wrong in principle than of being wrong in application. There is nothing inherently wrong with workers banding together to give them clout. The problem lies in the union leadership. Too many union bosses are gangsters or communists, or both. Too many unions operations are based upon venality or driven by an agenda, or both. The UAE scandal involves both. I've been a steward and hold withdrawal cards for two other unions. Never again if I can help it.

Michael Frazier
144 posted on 02/23/2006 8:46:06 AM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: ClaireSolt
You're painting us NY/NJers with a rather broad brush (I was born and raised in NYC, live in NJ).

But the ports in NY/NJ have had corruption problems for decades whether the leaseholders were foreign or domestic.

The longshoremen in our area are definitely mobbed-up - the entire Sopranos TV series rings so true to NJ residents precisely because it centers on "The Esplanade" - a fictional urban renewal project in Newark, NJ which involves graft for government construction contracts, trucking business and shipping.

Jon Corzine's problem with honesty and graft is on full display in "When Genius Failed" - the excellent book about the collapse of LTCM.

145 posted on 02/23/2006 8:46:46 AM PST by wideawake
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To: brazzaville
There is nothing inherently wrong with workers banding together to give them clout.

That's called collusion, or price-fixing, and is considered illegal and immoral in every other scenario. And with good reason.

146 posted on 02/23/2006 8:47:56 AM PST by wideawake
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To: ClaireSolt

NJ Citizen bumping you to the top!


147 posted on 02/23/2006 8:48:05 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: ClaireSolt

Add to you post:

Kushner was the commissioner of the NY/NJ Port Authority. Kushner is the one that sponsored Golen Cipel, an foreign national, that was put in charge of NJ's homeland security.


148 posted on 02/23/2006 8:49:45 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: brazzaville

BTW, I've been in a union and I've been menaced by union thugs for holding a nonunion position in the past.


149 posted on 02/23/2006 8:50:25 AM PST by wideawake
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To: willyboyishere

Very well said.


150 posted on 02/23/2006 8:50:47 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Borges

>>>But isn't it illegal for different unions to act in concert?

Sign up for all their newsletters. They are all copied word for word with different logos on them.


151 posted on 02/23/2006 8:51:57 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia; Willie Green
most of the discussions have been about unions in general.

Right, and I'll add that we need unions; they're necessary for capitalism to be able to function.

Most of the discussion has been about how bad unions are, and I might have had a lower opinion of unions too if I'd have believed the title that started all this: "Longshoreman Threatens the Host (Rush Limbaugh)".   Since I now know that it's not true, this thread has given me a lower opinion of union critics-- sometimes they say things that aren't true.

152 posted on 02/23/2006 8:53:49 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama

Hey yo! You wanna step outside? Come on! You scared! You talken to me? (strong finger point pushes to the chest)


:))


153 posted on 02/23/2006 8:54:17 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: wideawake

I would be amazed to find out that Rush is not a union member, himself. However, the entertainment unions do not have the same reps as longshoremen.


154 posted on 02/23/2006 8:54:35 AM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: Hildy
I've spoken to Rush three times, and twice it was because I disagreed with him.

It figures.

155 posted on 02/23/2006 8:54:44 AM PST by subterfuge ("We're going to take things from you for the greater good..."---Hillary Rod-Ham Clinton)
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To: expat_panama

>>>I take it that by asking me to talk about my experiences that you have none.

Wrong. I'm Italian from this great Pizza triangle that we are talking about.


156 posted on 02/23/2006 8:56:09 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: madprof98

Actually, I suspect I was right on target. Do you have some reason to think otherwise?

FreeRepublic actually draws a lot of the same kind of people who call Rush with "I'm a lifelong Republican . . . " lead-ins and then proceed to bash President Bush and/or the social conservatives for hijacking the GOP and restricting their so-called liberties. These Freepers are often belligerent, as Rush's caller was in the original post in this thread. I was not surprised at all that Hildy admired the guy.

That means they are merely a version of the "seminar caller"!


157 posted on 02/23/2006 8:56:15 AM PST by kaktuskid
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To: JZelle

What ever happened to the dude on the left?


158 posted on 02/23/2006 8:57:33 AM PST by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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To: expat_panama

Our unions are run by criminals. Maybe you are defending the princeple of a union. But the unions we are speaking of are run by the mafia and socialist supports.


159 posted on 02/23/2006 9:00:34 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: wideawake

Good morning.
"While I agree that one union may be more reasonable and less violent than others, unions are still wrong in principle."

Define it in any way you choose and judge it however you choose. I don't really care what you think unless you try to force your beliefs on me. And with good reason.

Workers have a right to try to improve their position, within the bounds of the law, and employers have the right to tell them where to get off, again within the bounds of laws. As to morality, I doubt that you or I can be subjective in saying what is moral.

That doesn't mean we can't try, or that we won't come off as indignant when we fail.

Michael Frazier


160 posted on 02/23/2006 9:09:26 AM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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