Posted on 02/22/2006 6:50:01 PM PST by Thunder90
Venezuela has received the first three of at least 10 military helicopters purchased from Russia.
Military officials say the three MI-17 helicopters arrived Tuesday in Caracas.
Venezuela bought the helicopters as part of a $120 million deal signed last March. Caracas also agreed last year to buy 100,000 Russian-made Kalashnikov assault rifles.
U.S. officials have criticized the deals, saying they could trigger an arms race, destabilizing the region.
MI-17s can be used in an assault role or as a transport craft. Venezuelan military officials say the helicopters will be used to patrol the border with neighboring Colombia.
The remaining helicopters bought from Russia are transport helicopters.
More Red Soviet banners came out. The Putininsts say that this does not happen.
"How do you when Communists are lying? Every time they open their mouths"
It's the same deal with the Putininsts 5th columnists.
Putin sells weapons to those in black, all vicious anti-American Reds.
Putin is a communist. Communists help those who hate capitalism.
With your overtly Russia always #1 attitude so alarmingly displayed on this thread, I really hope you're living and forever remaining in Putin's peoples paradise.
He's arming the world to line Russia's pockets and to prepare proxy countries to threaten the U.S. from all sides.
Leni
Wow 5 1980s era helos...yup, every Appache pilot is officially scared.
As we should recall in 1973 Syria was a very close Soviet client state, and further more it was Moscow which assisted the Syrians & Egyptians in their sneak attack against Israel's on the highest Jewish holy day of the year, Yom Kippur.
Fortunately the Israelis beat back the Arab invaders even with Russians flying the Syrian & Egyptian MIG fighter jets, which Israeli pilots shot down by the dozens. Many Israelis lost their lives during the Yom Kippur war due to Moscow's incitement & fully supporting the Arab side.
In the tradition of Stalin, Soviet Russia intended to assist the Arabs in their (failed) attempt in exterminating the Jewish population of the state of Israel. Nothing has changed in 2006, and Iran, a client terrorist state of Moscow has a demented Muslim leader who has sworn publicly to "wipe out Israel" with Putin's arms assistance..
The question has to be asked, are the visible Putin supporters on FR also antiSemitic? After all the Putin promoters are obviously cognizant Putin's Kremlin is arming Israel's most vicious enemies, in terms of Russian weaponry sold to the likes of Iran & Syria, which Anmerica's sworn enemies and a monumental threat to the entire civilized world.
The 1973 Yom Kippur War, a study in Soviet Era Politics
President Nixon was able to reroute American arms shipments via the Atlantic's Portuguese Azorean Islands, and onward to Israel, which turned the tide in favour of Israel over the invading Arab armoured divisions. People tend to forget how close we came to a real East-West conflict.
Putin continues arming the Syrians, as well as the fanatical jihad exporting Iranians. Hugo Chavez, a revolutionary Marxist also as a very close working relationship with KGB Putin dealing in all sorts of Russian weapons, not to mention Moscow's old ally, Cuba's Castro.
Putin was also playing arms games with Saddam before we overthrew the Iraqi tyrant, which Putin was so against. We now know why.
Russia tied to Iraq's missing arms
Russians Moved Iraq's Missing Explosives to Syria
Syria: Israel anger at Russian arms deal
Israel Fears Russian Missiles to Syria Could Fall Into Terrorists ...
Iskander is an updated version of the Soviet-era Scud missile
The Russians could make a heck of a lot more money by privatizing their industries and selling more peaceful goods to Western nations.==
I agree. But what to do now? DO you economist?
It happened that westren nation needs ONLY russian resources but russian machinary is aout of competition. But russian military machinary has some market.
I may understand that for you maybe it is better if russian economy will go dead. But not for Putin. He has to ensure that russian products sold for hard currency. And hence russian workers got thier salaries. You probably don't care about russian workers and thier familities. But Putin as russian president has to care.
Again. If you want that Russia won't sell her military products to some customers. Then offer to Russia new market so that russian workers won't suffer from your wish. Then it would be fair.
But noiw you just wnat of Russia to shut down her businesses and nothing give in turn. This is no ay to do business.
With your overtly Russia always #1 attitude so alarmingly displayed on this thread, I really hope you're living and forever remaining in Putin's peoples paradise.==
I just think it is counterpeoductive just sit and gossip and badmouth Putin or Russia but better to understand what they think.
I just try to show you other side perspectives. Maybe you begin to think. Maybe I'm mistaking and you just do not want to think but just whine about "evil" Russia:).
You ask from Russia a lot but refuse to give something in turn. Give her something in turn if you want something from her. If not then no wonder you wishes won't be met by Russia.
Remember people here know how to count money and not fools.
The question is why would "Americans" be supporting a Communist dictator - unless they themselves are Communists?==
Unfortunately Putin is more capitalist then majority of Western Europe. SO Tony Blair for example is more communist then Putin.
In relation to your statements, the majority of Americans and British would not really be concerned about today's Russia if that vast commodity rich nation had a truly democratic leader, not a dictatorial KGB tyrant, arming the biggest Islamic and Communist threats to global economic security.
The real threat stemming from Putin is his continuous arming of the nuclear fanatics in Iran, coupled with terrorist instigating Syria.
I have a question for you. Do you live in Russia or America?==
Now in russia. Few years ago lived in America.
In relation to your statements, the majority of Americans and British would not really be concerned about today's Russia if that vast commodity rich nation had a truly democratic leader, not a dictatorial KGB tyrant, arming the biggest Islamic and Communist threats to global economic security.==
"Dictatorial KGB tyrant" is just propagandist myth. Putin is authoritarian yes. But to call him dictatorial or even commie is huge deviation from truth.
He just run armatory business. By the way United States run such too. She annually sells the weapons more then Russia. At least 1.5 times.
Russia sells just DEFENSIVE weaponry. No offensive. Who is against defensive weaponry?
If you want Russia no sell to some her customers then give her new markets. Until that russians see your complains as the attempt to undermine thier business.
Putin has put on a "Christian" dress, and yet his business deals are against Christian peoples of this earth. Now he may well make his dollar in the short run but then he forgets who is ultimately in control.
Why to state the obvious make some think that a peoples demise is what is desired?
Putin is also supplying 100,000 AK47's to Venezuela's ==
To be precise. AK-47 is long time out of productions. Russia produces now AK-74M, AK-10X series. AK-47s you may buy today from China or Egypt.
http://www.rusarm.ru/p_frame/main.htm
Putin has put on a "Christian" dress, and yet his business deals are against Christian peoples of this earth.==
Can you elaborate?
Now he may well make his dollar in the short run but then he forgets who is ultimately in control. ==
Russia happened to be neibors of islamic countries. See map. So Russia should not engage in crusade against islamic world. Because at the end Russia may be left alone against them.
So Russia try to make peace with them. By doing small consessions. Till today this policy works.
Opposite of propaganda neither islamic country with which Russia copperates involved in islamic insurgency against her.
Islamic insurgency in the world is brewed by Saudi Arabia. Those who made terrosim act in USA was from Saudi Arabia mostly. DOn't you forget?
I just don't understand why not American occupation there?
Russians see it as clear as day. United Staes went to Iraq instead of Saudi Arabia. Hence people in russia think that United States has DIFFERENT interests in mind then just struggle with islamic terrorism.
When it suited interests of Russia she helped United States destroy Taliban in Afganistan.
Iraq was secular state. Now the shiite islamists won power there.
Iran is shiite islamist state. They are all fanatics.
What can you do with fanatics? Either kill them all or leave them alone. Time to time cooperate with them if it suit you. It is policy of Russia as far as I understand it.
Nukes ia already in hands of islamic country. Think Pakistan. I saw many insuniations about Russia "provided" nuclier technology to everyone. They told that they bought nukes from russia.
But at the end the huge scandal happened around Pakistan. THIS country really sold nuciler technilogy to islamists and even north koreans.
You see no enemy where should be. Instead just offend Russia by unfair pretensions.
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