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Correcting 3 Lies about the Port Deal (Vanity)
Febuary 23, 2006

Posted on 02/22/2006 4:34:50 PM PST by johnmecainrino

Bush didn't know because congress mandated for this foreign service group to keep the decisions secret. The group only informs the president if they go to an extended period of review and then reject it. No one on the top white house staff knew. It was done by middle level bueracracy mostly in these agencies. Congress mandated the process by non political and kept secret.

Congress didn't know because it is a federal crime to talk about the specifics of the deal. Again congress mandated it be secret and now they are screaming how bush didn't inform them.

Based on the law congress passed in 1988 Bush couldn't have reversed the deal after it was approved by this committee. The law states that after the deal was approved by the committee bush or the committee can only go back and review the deal if the company lied to them on the application.

On MSNBC right now we are hearing how bush was out of the loop again and all the bs. That was the law. And when I hear congress complaining about the secrecy, damn them they wrote the law that way to protect the propriety of the companies.

Scott McClellan has to be the worst press secretary ever. He didn't even know today that the american unions would still be involved and that homeland security got in the deal to do a background check before anyone can enter the facility that works for the company.

Bush needs to go on national TV primetime to stop the lies. Worst of all a lot of the lies are being spread by peter king who is clueless on the 1988 law that was written. If he is so upset change the law instead of blaming bush for a law congress mandated.


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To: DumpsterDiver; All

great links thanks

The Congress will obviously be soon fighting to get their fingers in the pie by changing these laws.

Constitution wise I thought the Congress has the explicit power to regulate commerce w/ foreign nations?


101 posted on 02/23/2006 10:06:54 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: johnmecainrino

OK...now would you or someone else post this thingy congress passed back in 1988.


102 posted on 02/23/2006 10:16:31 AM PST by shield (The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instructions.Pr 1:7)
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To: shield

These two links will get you going:
http://www.osec.doc.gov/ogc/occic/invest.html
and
http://www.treas.gov/offices/international-affairs/exon-florio/


103 posted on 02/23/2006 10:35:54 AM PST by kilowhskey (Land of the free, because of the brave.)
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To: shield
OK...now would you or someone else post this thingy congress passed back in 1988.

The following is from Post 85:

http://www.treasury.gov/offices/international-affairs/exon-florio/

To assist in making this determination, Exon-Florio provides for the President or his designee to receive written notice of an acquisition, merger or takeover of a U.S. corporation by a foreign entity. Once CFIUS has received a complete notification, it begins a thorough review of the notified transaction. In some cases, it is necessary to undertake an extended review or "investigation." An investigation, if necessary, must begin no later than 30 days after receipt of a notice. Any investigation is required to end within 45 days.

Information provided by companies contemplating a transaction subject to Exon-Florio is held confidential and is not made public, except in the case of an administrative or judicial action or proceeding. Nothing in section 721 shall be construed to prevent disclosure to either House of Congress or to any duly authorized committee or subcommittee of the Congress.

This order also provides for CFIUS to submit a report and recommendation to the President at the conclusion of an investigation.

104 posted on 02/23/2006 10:36:16 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: DumpsterDiver; kilowhskey

Thanks... ;o)


105 posted on 02/23/2006 10:52:09 AM PST by shield (The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instructions.Pr 1:7)
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To: Hound of the Baskervilles
You are truly a lost cause. There are more willing evil doers from the middle East than from anywhere else. Why go shopping in Compton when you live in Beverly Hills? Unless it is some know it all do gooder like you.

Do you live close to one of the ports in question? I suspect not since you don't have a profile. When the attack from a port comes I hope you have show us all your commitment to this sale and moved as close to one of them as possible.

106 posted on 02/23/2006 5:30:44 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: mad_as_he$$
"You are truly a lost cause. "

Did I mention that the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs likes the port deal? Did I mention Tommy Franks says the UAE are our friends? Hillary is on your side. Think about it.

107 posted on 02/23/2006 7:00:28 PM PST by Hound of the Baskervilles (Liberals are unfit for citizenship in a country that values freedom and courage.)
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To: Hound of the Baskervilles

The Chairman of the JC's is a politician who has to work for W for two more years. McCain is on your side think about that.


108 posted on 02/23/2006 7:51:55 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: johnmecainrino
What kind of mud can we find today to throw on the wall that will FINALLY stick on President Bush. And if not, then again tomorrow and the day after tomorrow and so on. Yesterday it was Cheney, today it is the port deal, what will it be tomorrow???
109 posted on 02/23/2006 7:56:39 PM PST by danamco
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To: mad_as_he$$
"The Chairman of the JC's is a politician who has to work for W for two more years."

If you don't trust Peter Pace and you can't see for yourself that he is honorable, not to mention Tommy Franks then there's nobody you can trust. It's no use trying to convince you. Go ahead hitch your wagon to your foolish notions. Your side has lost this, reason and facts have prevailed and the deal will go through.

110 posted on 02/23/2006 11:33:24 PM PST by Hound of the Baskervilles (Liberals are unfit for citizenship in a country that values freedom and courage.)
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To: Hound of the Baskervilles
Not so fast cowboy. If you don't understand that by the time you make Major and if you haven't learned politics your career is over; than you don't know anything about the Military. If you want to be CJC's you have to be a supreme politician. ANY field grade officer that criticizes POTUS can kiss his career goodbye and can be up on an Article 32 in a minute.

Jimmy Carter is on your side! Stick that on your wall. The worst President in modern time who single handedly started this mess is for it. Talk about foolish notions.

The deal ain't done yet. Check the latest news.

111 posted on 02/24/2006 8:11:57 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: bad company

Amen.


112 posted on 02/24/2006 8:18:14 PM PST by MamaB (mom to an Angel)
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To: Hound of the Baskervilles

Oh and you didn't answer my question. When do you plan to move next to one of the ports in question?


113 posted on 02/24/2006 8:19:40 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: mad_as_he$$
"Oh and you didn't answer my question. When do you plan to move next to one of the ports in question?"

I would feel perfectly safe living next to one of those ports.

114 posted on 02/24/2006 11:02:14 PM PST by Hound of the Baskervilles (Liberals are unfit for citizenship in a country that values freedom and courage.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

You need to take your own advice before it is too late. "Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)"


115 posted on 02/24/2006 11:04:04 PM PST by Hound of the Baskervilles (Liberals are unfit for citizenship in a country that values freedom and courage.)
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To: mad_as_he$$
"Jimmy Carter is on your side! Stick that on your wall. "

Helen Thomas is on your side. Nya!!

116 posted on 02/24/2006 11:12:37 PM PST by Hound of the Baskervilles (Liberals are unfit for citizenship in a country that values freedom and courage.)
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To: Hound of the Baskervilles

OOOHHH I'm scared.


117 posted on 02/25/2006 7:32:58 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: Hound of the Baskervilles

Put your life where you fingers are. Move close to Baltimore or one of the other ports. Typical leftist. Talk, Talk, Talk - no action.


118 posted on 02/25/2006 7:40:26 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: Hound of the Baskervilles
You're wasting you time on this one....

Never argue with a FOOL.

People overhearing it can't tell which is which.

119 posted on 02/25/2006 7:44:53 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If I'm a "BUSHBOT" then that makes you an "ARABAPHOBE")
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To: Michael.SF.
Only to those who are making a knee jerk reaction based on their impressions of the 'facts' rather then a knowledge of what is really going on regarding the operations of port terminals, the facts of how this decision was arrived and and what actual security procedures are in place.

You know, you might be right. At the beginning, we were dealing with a bit of a "black box". As things are coming more into focus and we see who is lining up on which side of this issues, I am beginning to have hope that the deal is on the up and up. But, I 'll say that the the White House sure did a crumby job of presenting its case. And, with Bush threatening the first veto of his two terms in office for the sake of foreign interests... The whole thing was starting to stink.

"Knee jerk reactions", AKA, public outrage has had one good affect. It's caused the there to be a thorough review of this whole issue.

Even if this matter clears the review process in every way, I'll never feel comfortable with it.

120 posted on 02/25/2006 8:59:46 AM PST by Barnacle (Harriet ’08... She’s fabulous!)
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