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Saudis Bemoan Poor Image in U.S.
Las Vegas Sun ^ | 22 Feb 06 | Jim Krane

Posted on 02/22/2006 6:14:51 AM PST by xzins

Saudis Bemoan Poor Image in U.S. By JIM KRANE ASSOCIATED PRESS

JIDDAH, Saudi Arabia (AP) -

On Sept. 11, 2001, Sonia Puopolo, an American Airlines flight attendant, lost her life when terrorists, four of them Saudis, hijacked her plane and slammed it into the World Trade Center in New York.

Last week, Puopolo's daughter Tita Puopolo spoke to a conference packed with Saudi business leaders and asked them to try and repair something else that died in the attacks: the U.S.-Saudi friendship.

"Many people ask me, 'Why would you visit Saudi Arabia after what happened to your mother?'" said Puopolo, speaking at the Jiddah Economic Forum in a black abaya and headscarf that slipped from her blond hair.

But Puopolo said her mother, a former ballet dancer who was 58 when she died, told her to "leave the world a better place" than she found it.

Puopolo's gesture of reconciliation was a rare occurrence for Saudis, who have watched with growing alarm as the kingdom's image in America has plummeted.

Although the two governments remain allies, the kingdom's elites say the country has been unfairly and relentlessly bashed by U.S. lawmakers, ordinary people and some media, who call the country a haven for religious extremists where oil revenues bankroll terrorists.

President Bush was seen by Saudis to be piling on last month, when he called in his State of the Union speech for an end to the United States' dependence on Mideast oil.

At the conference last week, many Saudis asked how it was possible that a country that, in their view, has adopted so much of the American way of life - especially American fast food, cars and education - could find itself so reviled.

"People here are a bit perplexed by what they're seeing in the United States. We know what it's like over there. We lived in the U.S.," said Omar Ziyad, chief operating officer of Gulf One Investment Bank. "The way we're being portrayed in the media over there - it's not the reality."

Many Americans, of course, see wide divisions between their society and Saudi Arabia's, which forbids the practice of any religion except Islam and demands strict segregation of the sexes, including barring women from driving, many jobs or even traveling without a male relative's permission.

Ziyad, speaking flawless English in his white dishdasha robe, also said there was "no factual basis" for allegations that Saudi oil money was funding terrorists.

U.S. Treasury Department investigators have in the past accused Saudi charities of funding al-Qaida. But they have said recently that the kingdom's efforts to crack down on such funding is succeeding.

Americans had good reason to be angry with Saudi Arabia, said Rachel Bronson of the U.S. Council on Foreign Relations.

Saudis' confrontation with terrorism in the country wasn't spurred by the Sept. 11 attacks that targeted the United States, but rather by the al-Qaida attacks inside the kingdom that started 18 months later, said Bronson.

Until the kingdom itself came under attack, the Saudi government was in denial about its role permitting the growth of extremism in the country, she said.

Now, she said, Saudi leaders accept some responsibility.

Ziyad and others argue that Saudi Arabia has spent much of its oil wealth to fight al-Qaida-linked extremists who have killed Westerners and Saudis in several attacks since 2003.

Saudis say they, too, are victims of al-Qaida, and believe they still get little credit for their crackdown.

"We are suffering from terrorism," said Sager Nadershah, 38, a manager at the National Commercial Bank in Jiddah. "A member of my family was killed in Saudi Arabia by a bomb. Why should we support terrorism?"

Speakers at the conference here say the Saudi image has withered, in part, because no one dares speak up on the kingdom's behalf. Some pointed a finger at what they called pro-Israel bias by Jewish writers or politicians in the United States.

Americans at the conference, like New Yorker magazine writer Larry Wright, said Saudis are particularly vulnerable to attack because they don't export their culture. Academic freedom is circumscribed in Saudi society, resulting in few books being written, and the country has no film industry because of a government ban.

"You can't control the story if you don't tell your story," Wright said. "As long as this is true, others will define who you are."

The Saudi image gets little help from Riyadh's behind-the-scenes approach to diplomacy, Ziyad acknowledged. "Our culture doesn't put a value on speaking out and being loud," Ziyad said.

The Saudi government did recently, however, embark on a public relations campaign in the United States and send its ambassador and others to spread the Saudi point of view among American civic groups.

The Saudis have a few unlikely allies: One is Gregory Payne, a communications professor at Yale and Tufts universities, who arranges student tours of Saudi Arabia. Student exchanges used to be a hallmark of the relationship between the two countries, but most were canceled after the Sept. 11 attacks.

Payne said his tours now have become oversubscribed by curious American students.

He screened a film documenting a visit by Harvard and Yale students who described their initial fears of visiting the kingdom, and the difference they felt after experiencing Saudi hospitality.

One desperate audience member at the conference asked Peter Robertson, vice chairman of Chevron Corp., why American oil executives weren't defending the kingdom.

"I'm not sure what Saudi Arabia needs in the United States is the oil companies standing up for it," Robertson said. "I'm not sure we'd help you that much."

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On the Net:

Jiddah Economic Forum: http://www.jef.org.sa

http://www.soniapuopolo.com

http://www.saudiamericanexchange.org


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: islamofascist; jooz; religionoftolerance; saudi; terrorism; trop; whiningwahabbists
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To: xzins
"...many Saudis asked how it was possible that a country that, in their view, has adopted so much of the American way of life..."


21 posted on 02/22/2006 6:41:31 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: TonyRo76
adopted so much...American...

And we should feel good if the 9/11 terrrorists ate a McMuffin before they boarded that morning???

22 posted on 02/22/2006 6:42:59 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins

Sonia baby has that thankfully-rare affliction in which victims feel a sick urge to "forgive" their attackers, perhaps some variation on the Stockholm Syndrome.

I think I personally would be looking for someone to shoot.


23 posted on 02/22/2006 6:45:00 AM PST by Redbob (I'd rather go hunting with Dick Cheney than ride in a car with Teddy Kennedy!)
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To: xzins
My poor heart bleeds for them.... NOT!
They can go straight to hell for all I care. I used to have some respect for the Saudis and some for the other Arabs.... The one I met were good folks.... but after everything that has happened since 9-11? They better be coughing up some real proof that they are cracking down. The head of bin-laden would be a real good start!
24 posted on 02/22/2006 6:45:50 AM PST by SouthernBoyupNorth ("For my wings are made of Tungsten, my flesh of glass and steel..........")
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To: dfwgator

I never said this would be quick.

We can defeat Islamofascism everywhere else, then the Saudi bastion actually reforms itself. Estimated time: 50 years.

AQ can take over Saudi, and we crush them and rebuild. Estimated time: 20 years.

Either way, the whole nature of what Saudi Arabia is has to change. They are (with Iran on the Shia side) the Font of Terror. Until both regimes are replaced and their populations change their mind about Islamofascism, we'll be fighting them or their surrogates somewhere.


25 posted on 02/22/2006 6:47:07 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (The Prophet Muhammed, Piss Be Upon Him)
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To: xzins

26 posted on 02/22/2006 6:47:10 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11. Restore Hagia Sophia! Ultra-Catholic)
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To: xzins

U.S. image and approval ratings:
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Used-car salesmen
Lawyers
Dimocratic politicians (I know, shouldn't be listed twice...)
Pond scum
Saudis


27 posted on 02/22/2006 6:47:27 AM PST by Redbob (I'd rather go hunting with Dick Cheney than ride in a car with Teddy Kennedy!)
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To: xzins

The a-rabs, when it comes to being friendly can't even resist killing and pillaging their own. Why in God's name would any sane person want Saudi a-rabs as friends.

Those guys would be happy to cut your head off with a dull saber.


28 posted on 02/22/2006 6:48:30 AM PST by hgro
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To: xzins
Americans at the conference, like New Yorker magazine writer Larry Wright, said Saudis are particularly vulnerable to attack because they don't export their culture.

Oh, come on now... How can you say that with a straight face Mr. Wright? Clearly the Saudis have been actively exporting their culture: Ever heard of Wahabism? Jihad? Hatred of Jews? Intolerance? All of them are Saudi exports...

29 posted on 02/22/2006 6:49:33 AM PST by The Electrician ("Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.")
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To: xzins

30 posted on 02/22/2006 6:49:39 AM PST by sono (Note to Rep. Weldon: Subpoena Spitzer!)
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To: xzins
Ziyad, speaking flawless English in his white dishdasha robe, also said there was "no factual basis" for allegations that Saudi oil money was funding terrorists.

This is a complete LIE. EVERYONE knows what Saudia Arabia's main export is, and it's not f-ing oil.
31 posted on 02/22/2006 6:50:43 AM PST by steel_resolve
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To: xzins

My understanding is that the House of Saud constantly has a "Sword of Damacles" hanging over it, it's called the Ulema. Privately, they could care less about Israel, but if word got out, the Ulema would disavow the House of Saud and it's all over for them.


32 posted on 02/22/2006 6:51:12 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Brad Cloven
And not just al qaida. The paid for poisonous literature for mosques in the U.S. They fund university studies in islam. And most importantly of all, they export Wahhabism.

And then they insult us by wanting to "buy" a positive image.

33 posted on 02/22/2006 6:51:19 AM PST by Dark Skies ("Free speech is THE weapon of choice against islam.")
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To: hgro
"The a-rabs, when it comes to being friendly can't even resist killing and pillaging their own."

There's an Aesop fable about this:

A scorpion and a frog meet on the bank of a stream and the scorpion asks the frog to carry him across on its back. The frog asks, "How do I know you won't sting me?" The scorpion says, "Because if I do, I will die too."

The frog is satisfied, and they set out, but in midstream, the scorpion stings the frog. The frog feels the onset of paralysis and starts to sink, knowing they both will drown, but has just enough time to gasp "Why?"

Replies the scorpion: "It's my nature..."

34 posted on 02/22/2006 6:59:12 AM PST by Redbob (I'd rather go hunting with Dick Cheney than ride in a car with Teddy Kennedy!)
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To: dfwgator

Forgive my ignorance, but what precisely is the "Ulema"?


36 posted on 02/22/2006 7:13:44 AM PST by Niuhuru
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To: xzins
So are we to understand that the same country and culture that incubates, gives birth to and funds some of the worst terrorists in the World is now suddenly fighting against them?

I can imagine how many Saudis are laughing behind the backs of the Westerners who are buying into this crap.
37 posted on 02/22/2006 7:14:29 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Darwinism is a belief in the meaninglessness of existence - R. Kirk)
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To: Niuhuru
Here is a good article explaining the role of the Ulema in Saudi Arabia. The Power of Saudi Arabia's Islamic Leaders
38 posted on 02/22/2006 7:21:38 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: xzins

The number one thing they can do: RENOUNCE SHARIA !!!


39 posted on 02/22/2006 7:37:25 AM PST by BunnySlippers
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To: xzins

Oh poor Rich Saudi's, for you are the only ones bemoaning; such a shame we don't understand your fuedal, backwards, sharia law, burka wearing, Whabbi, BS. Such a shame I actually understand it, and know it to truly be a bunch of crap and an offense to God and the rest of the world.


40 posted on 02/22/2006 7:42:12 AM PST by vpintheak (Liberal = The antithesis of Freedom and Patriotism)
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