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Nice to see SOMEBODY is covering Able Danger.

Also, this site is sending out emails from people urging the media to cover Able Danger. You can sedn the email here:

http://www.democracyinaction.org/mediachannel/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=2631

1 posted on 02/18/2006 6:33:29 AM PST by americaprd
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To: americaprd

Why isn't this getting more press. Someone change David Gregory's diaper, wash his mouth out with soap, spank his silly *ss and tell him to do something worthwhile, investigate this story. (Under the threat, of course, that if he distorts the truth, he will have to wear his dirty diaper until he gets it right)!


2 posted on 02/18/2006 6:48:37 AM PST by RAY
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To: americaprd

"Nice to see someone is covering Able Danger."I agree.The msm won't touch this with a ten foot pole.Why not?I believe the Clinton admin was involved in the supression of AD.Of course if the Bush admin were implicated in this fiasco,this would be frontpage news,24/7.


3 posted on 02/18/2006 6:53:08 AM PST by Thombo2
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To: americaprd

bump


5 posted on 02/18/2006 6:56:13 AM PST by VOA
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To: Dog; AdmSmith; DevSix; Cap Huff; Straight Vermonter
Ping......I find it interesting that a Toledo paper covers this, that an article appears now and that this whole story (when it actually broke) appears to have been swept under the rug.

Thoughts?

7 posted on 02/18/2006 6:58:02 AM PST by irish guard
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To: americaprd

So it will take the bought and paid for "media" to expose the truth?

The gop controls the entire government, top to bottom.

The fact that the administration is covering up this intellegence, is disturbing to the point of fear.


8 posted on 02/18/2006 6:59:17 AM PST by WhiteGuy (Care)
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To: americaprd
Able danger has been buried by the dems and liberal pubs and is a dead issue at this point.
I am more concerned about the Presidents latest folly of handing over 5 of America's seaports to the United Arab Immigrants corporation; Arabs will control and even maintain security of these 5 seaports. Perhaps the President really believes the bogus "Islam is a religion of peace" blarney he spouts regularly. He hugs and kisses to many Arab Islamics who support America's and Israels death methinks.
Are their really any conservatives left or have they all been railroaded out of politics at this point.
9 posted on 02/18/2006 7:01:21 AM PST by ohhhh ( I pray the public school system collapses for the good of the children.)
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To: americaprd

Even most of the 'conservative' talk shows spent more time on the Cheney accident than on Able Danger after Weldon's hearings.

AD just has no legs -- the media, including 'conservative' talk shows -- are more interested in mind-mush than in real news, and most government/politicians don't want it aired.

AD will get buried in the dustbin of history. Maybe a century from now, some historian will dig it out and give it a full investigation. Until then, too many living persons (from both political parties) are too directly involved for AD to get a full airing.


10 posted on 02/18/2006 7:04:19 AM PST by TomGuy
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.....""It's unclear why the Bush Administration is covering up, since the suppression of Able Danger occurred on President Clinton's watch. But it is clear there is a cover-up. One would think a Washington press corps obsessing about a hunting accident in Texas would be more curious about it.""

Jack Kelly is a member of The Blade’s national bureau. » E-mail him at jkelly@post-gazette.com

11 posted on 02/18/2006 7:07:15 AM PST by prognostigaator
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To: americaprd

15 posted on 02/18/2006 7:43:25 AM PST by mirkwood (Adversity doesn't build character, it reveals it.)
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DOMESTIC TERRORISM ALERT. Please let me know by freepmail if you want to be put on or taken off this list. Thanks.


16 posted on 02/18/2006 7:44:54 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Join the FR folding team!! http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=36120)
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To: All
What happened with Pearl Harbor is documented in a number of places.

But there was a war warning that went out at the time Japan dispatched the fleet to attack Pearl Harbor two weeks before. There is even an edition of the Saturday Evening Post with an ad supposedly put in by a German spy (who was later killed by a British spy) before the bombing of Pearl Harbor.

The ad had a set of dice with that had 12 6 or 12 7 (which was the date of the attack clearly on the dice). The Germans were upset that Japan was bringing the US into the war.

The ad was all about a war game and it was an edition that was issued in late November 1941.

Also, of note, on Pearl Harbor, the American military expected an attack on the Philipines and not on Pearl Harbor.

The thing about the war warning going out 2 weeks before put the military of being on a war alert for two weeks. So towards the end of that period - especially on a Sunday morning - the military was not as alert as it should have been.

In terms of Ops like Able Danger, there should always be intelligence gathering operations. The point of these Ops are to gather information so that if something happens, there is fresh INTEL on possible terrorist cells.

Such INTEL ops are not trying to predict terrorist events but rather track POSSIBLE terrorist cells and gather information about the members and organizations.

Looking in retrospect at such Ops is always dangerous.

In World War II, as part of the Enigma secret, the Germans were going to bomb the village where a number of members of the families of the people decoding the secret lived. Though the INTEL team knew that their village was going to bombed and maybe lose children and wives (or husbands), they could not alert their families. That might tip the Germans that the Allies were decoding their secrets and prevented the Allies from using such INTEL for important events such as D-Day the 6th of June 1944 and how the Germans were re-acting to that.

To understand what some INTEL's went through in World War II might put a perspective on the Able Danger.

And we have to stop giving away information on how the US INTEL community does business - it endangers the lives of Americans around the world.

In my opinion, some revelations about Able Danger are good, always are detrimental to the war on terrorism...

22 posted on 02/18/2006 8:16:08 AM PST by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: americaprd

bttt


23 posted on 02/18/2006 8:17:18 AM PST by shield (The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instructions.Pr 1:7)
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To: americaprd

Bump!


29 posted on 02/18/2006 8:33:57 AM PST by Paul Ross (Hitting bullets with bullets successfully for 35 years!)
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To: americaprd

The "wall" Gorelick put in place at the behest of x42, probably had something to do with the intellegence agencies not sharing information they had. It still sounds like we have some "moles" in our intellegence agencies what with the leaks we've been experiencing.


31 posted on 02/18/2006 8:40:14 AM PST by tillacum (i)
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To: americaprd
Why would the Bush Administration cover this up?

Why indeed.


33 posted on 02/18/2006 8:50:34 AM PST by montag813
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To: americaprd

Fox News reporting on this now. 12:28pm EST


35 posted on 02/18/2006 9:27:47 AM PST by I'mAllRightJack
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To: americaprd; All

There are two main questions here:

1. Why won't the mainstream liberal press report on this, and
2. Why won't Republicans open investigations.

I believe that the answer to the first is to protect Clinton from just criticism of his lack of action against terrorism. Normally the press would jump on this, but they can't without exposing bill and hill.

The answer to the second problem is a bit more complicated. Data mining is touchy issue and gets into 4th amendment issues. A close examination of the program could result in another scandal like the NSA wiretaps flap. It could also result in revelations that could give terrorists clues to what we are currently doing to catch them. Those are the only logical reasons I can see for Pentagon/Administration stonewalling in this issue.


40 posted on 02/18/2006 9:59:13 AM PST by PsyOp (The commonwealth is theirs who hold the arms.... - Aristotle.)
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To: americaprd
It's sad to think that US citizens have to die in order for the rest of the world to feel that was/is necessary for the US and its allies to go after terrorists and regimes like Saddam's.

You can bet that Saddam's henchmen were much closer to getting a nuke and delivery system than we are told; not that Iraq was building a nuke, but working hard to buy one. Also, Iran's radical political leaders (not the head man though he is seriously f'n nuts) are pursuing the means to acquire such capabilities also.

With Hamas winning the elections for the Palestinians, the recent disclosure by a former top Iraqi general as to the location of where the WMD components were taken (Syria), very little coming out of Syria in as far as criticism of the West, go figure now as to why we have a significant military presence in the Middle East.

It is tragic as to what governments are willing to sacrifice in the name of intel and moves in the world's chess game.

Most Americans could not sleep if the truths were revealed....it would terrify so many our economy would collapse and paranoia would run rampant.

The article and many on this site are correct in that Able Danger did a damn good job, but, if 9/11 had not happened with other attacks prior to that, then there would have been no reason or support from other countries for the US to have invaded Afghanistan and Iraq. The majority of the modern world would have condemned the US.

In the minds of those 'in charge', it is much better to have let a few thousand die (be murdered), then get public support, then to go after those radical haters of the West hell bent on attaining and deploying chemical' biological, nuclear WMD's where hundreds of thousands, if not millions, are going to be killed.

As always in politics, it's always about image, don't offend anyone, maintain the status quo, get the funding, irregardless of really doing the right thing.

46 posted on 02/20/2006 10:25:08 AM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: americaprd
"Daddy likes me better than you!"
"Go have drink while me & daddy go play golf"


48 posted on 07/31/2006 12:57:35 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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