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Rumsfeld slams war statements by Murtha
Washington Times ^ | Feb. 17, 2006 | Rowan Scarborough

Posted on 02/17/2006 7:46:06 PM PST by FairOpinion

Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, in his first public faceoff with Rep. John P. Murtha since the Pennsylvania Democrat called for a quick U.S. troop withdrawal from Iraq, rejected yesterday the congressman's charge that the U.S. cannot win the war. At a hearing on the Pentagon budget before the House Appropriations Committee's subcommittee on defense, Mr. Murtha, the panel's top Democrat, renewed his November call for a pullout.

"Where I disagree is fighting terrorism in Iraq," Mr. Murtha said. "I think that we're inciting terrorism, and that's my personal opinion. ... When you go in ... with the tactics we have to use to protect American lives, you're going to create enemies. And that's what we've done."

Mr. Rumsfeld listened as Mr. Murtha leveled his pessimistic assessment and then heard a second round of attacks from Rep. David R. Obey, Wisconsin Democrat.

The defense secretary then suspended his rehearsed opening statement and responded.

"The idea that you should paint a picture and hang crepe over it, that everything's horrible in Iraq, is not true," Mr. Rumsfeld said, citing three elections last year that created an Iraqi constitution and parliament.

"Now, is it a pretty picture? Has it been done instantaneously? No. Is there a lot of tugging and hauling and politicking? You bet there is over there," he said. "And are we gong to end up with something that we stand back and look at it and say, 'Gee, that's a pretty picture?' No. It's going to be an Iraqi picture. It's not going to be an American picture. But it's going to get done."

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania; US: Wisconsin; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 109th; antiwar; cutandrun; iraq; murtha; obey; rumsfeld
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Now THAT's funny.


21 posted on 02/17/2006 8:37:25 PM PST by wingman1 (University of Vietnam 1970. Forget? Hell.)
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To: FairOpinion

I agree.


22 posted on 02/17/2006 8:37:49 PM PST by map
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To: FairOpinion

Who is paying Murtha, either financially or via some political path, to talk like this? He cannot really be this stupid can he?


23 posted on 02/17/2006 8:47:27 PM PST by Rummyfan
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To: IrishRainy

"Now, is it a pretty picture? Has it been done instantaneously? No. Is there a lot of tugging and hauling and politicking? You bet there is over there," he said. "And are we gong to end up with something that we stand back and look at it and say, 'Gee, that's a pretty picture?' No. It's going to be an Iraqi picture. It's not going to be an American picture. But it's going to get done."

Please run for President Mr Secretary.

24 posted on 02/17/2006 8:50:36 PM PST by Rummyfan
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To: FairOpinion
Murtha has lost his mind and should just retire in the glorious tax riddled state of penslavanaastan since he cares more about making a ass of himself than working for his home state. That would provide a opportunity for maybe someone that cares about issues instead of babbling communist agenda.
25 posted on 02/17/2006 9:06:05 PM PST by Steveone (Paradise is a World free of Liberals.)
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To: FairOpinion
Aren't these traitorous rats in violation of their oath of office we are at war!
26 posted on 02/17/2006 9:21:49 PM PST by Steveone (Paradise is a World free of Liberals.)
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To: FairOpinion
nobody else has either...its a bit of parody draped in symbolism...
27 posted on 02/17/2006 9:31:22 PM PST by M-cubed (Why is "Greshams Law" a law?)
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To: SandRat

The "Pentagon Channel" .. WHAT ..??

I didn't know there was such a thing. My cable outlet is Time Warner - I wonder why they don't carry it. Guess they will be getting a phone call.


28 posted on 02/17/2006 9:47:06 PM PST by CyberAnt (Democrat Leadership = No program - no ideas - no clue.)
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To: river rat

"Half the Democrats on the Hill should be walking around as if a knife was in their back or a corn cob up their rectal orifice from the verbal lashings they SHOULD be getting."

Don't wake me - I'm dreaming. What pleasant thoughts.

The Dems are thoroughly evil. Unfortunately their political opponents are too often thoroughly stupid and cowardly.


29 posted on 02/17/2006 10:02:00 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: FairOpinion
Did we worry about inciting the Japanese or the Germans wherever and whenever we hit them?
30 posted on 02/17/2006 11:01:44 PM PST by luvbach1 (Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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To: FairOpinion; PhilDragoo; Travis McGee; Jeff Head; Grampa Dave; Interesting Times; Chieftain; ...

HILLARY-HAIR?




31 posted on 02/17/2006 11:30:44 PM PST by devolve (<-- (-in a manner reminiscent of Senator Gasbag F. Kohnman-)
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To: danamco

Are you serious? Did this exchange actually happen, IN PUBLIC? And it was recorded? If true, could you cite a source? And THANK YOU VERY MUCH for posting this!


32 posted on 02/17/2006 11:37:05 PM PST by de Buillion (Give us your perverts, pedophiles, and sodomites. San Francisco wants YOU!)
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To: luvbach1
"Did we worry about inciting the Japanese or the Germans wherever and whenever we hit them?"

Yes, we did. We attempted to do so at every opportunity.

33 posted on 02/17/2006 11:46:32 PM PST by de Buillion (Give us your perverts, pedophiles, and sodomites. San Francisco wants YOU!)
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To: FairOpinion; devolve

Murtha, stand still, that's an order.

Now leave this room, we don't allow cut and runners in here.

34 posted on 02/17/2006 11:54:49 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: devolve; potlatch; ntnychik; Grampa Dave; BOBTHENAILER; FairOpinion; Jeff Head

35 posted on 02/18/2006 1:11:56 AM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: CyberAnt; SandRat
I didn't know there was such a thing. My cable outlet is Time Warner - I wonder why they don't carry it. Guess they will be getting a phone call.

Wouldn't cost them a thing to add it to their system. Taxpayers are paying for it whether they get it or not, through their taxes. In fact, DISH Network satellite was the first provider to provide this channel when it first come on the air over a year ago. If TW does carry it, it will most likely be on the basic digital package.

36 posted on 02/18/2006 3:09:50 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Proud to be a cotton-pickin' Republican on the GOP Plantation)
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To: FairOpinion
No, it is still not safe to vote rat.

There's a small part of my brain that wants President Bush to give the President Lincoln treatment to the traitorous and seditious members of Congress and the Press. Cold winter cells in upstate NY would be too good for the likes of Murtha, Obey, McDermott, Dowd, Pinch . . .
37 posted on 02/18/2006 3:57:38 AM PST by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions)
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To: de Buillion

Urban ledgend see post 13


38 posted on 02/18/2006 4:36:46 AM PST by listenhillary ("Mainstream media" is creating it's own reality~everything sucks)
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To: CyberAnt

On the PC go here http://pentagonchannel.feedroom.com/iframeset.jsp?ord=41778 and for additional information http://www.pentagonchannel.mil/ when in this one click the How to get the Pentagon Channel button.

Be sure to tell all your friends to call to as the more requests from different subscribers they get the better chance you have. Oh, it also helps to have the City Mayor, all of the City Council members, and the County Commissioners be among those requesting.


39 posted on 02/18/2006 5:48:12 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: FairOpinion
Murtha's a dem sell-out. Maybe he can get together with Gore, go to the Saudis and trash the country for cash... or is that what this has always been about?
40 posted on 02/18/2006 5:51:25 AM PST by GOPJ (If Dems had courage, they could have the courage of their convictions, if they had convictions.)
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