Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Ohio Poll: 3 to 1 Margin Supports Teaching Evolution Controversy
DISCOVERY INSITITUTE NEWS ^ | 02/13/2006

Posted on 02/15/2006 10:25:06 AM PST by SirLinksalot

  Discovery Institute News

1511 3rd Ave Suite 808 - Seattle, WA 98101 - (206) 292-0401 x107


Ohio 2006 Poll Results Executive Summary

By: Staff
Discovery Institute

February 13, 2006


This was a telephone survey of Ohio likely voters conducted by Zogby International 2/2/06 thru 2/3/06. The target sample is [601] interviews. The margin of error is +/- 4.1 percentage points.

Click here to see the complete poll results.

Which of the following two statements come closest to your own opinion?
A) Biology teachers should teach only Darwin’s theory of evolution and the scientific evidence that supports it.
B) Biology teachers should teach Darwin’s theory of evolution, but also the scientific evidence against it.
C) Neither/Not Sure


In 2006 in Ohio:
A = 19%
B = 68.8%
C = 12%

In 2002 in Ohio:
A = 19%
B = 65%
C = 16


Do you strongly agree, somewhat agree, somewhat disagree, or strongly disagree with the following statement: “When Darwin’s theory of evolution is taught in school, students should also be able to learn about scientific evidence that points to an intelligent design of life.”
1. Strongly agree 2. Somewhat agree 3. Somewhat disagree 4. Strongly disagree 5. Not sure

In 2006 in Ohio:
1. Strongly agree 56.4%
2. Somewhat agree 19.3% Agree 75.7%
3. Somewhat disagree 5.0%
4. Strongly disagree 13.0% Disagree 18%
5. Not sure 5.9%

In 2002 in Ohio:
Strongly agree 55%
Somewhat agree 23% Agree 78%
Somewhat disagree 3.0%
Strongly disagree 10% Disagree 13%
Not sure 9.0%


Some other interesting findings:

Of those that agreed: Biology teachers should teach Darwin’s theory of evolution, but also the scientific evidence against it.
  • 78.6% of Republicans agreed, 58.6% of Democrats agreed, and 67% of Independents agreed.
  • 70% of men agreed, and 67.8% of women.
  • 51% had some high school, 69% graduated high school, 67.8% had some college, 70% had college degrees.

Of those that agreed: When Darwin’s theory of evolution is taught in school, students should also be able to learn about scientific evidence that points to an intelligent design of life.
  • 84.3% of Republicans agreed, 66.2% of Democrats and 75.2% of Independents agreed.
  • 73.1 of men agreed, and 78.1% of women.
  • 67.2% had some high school, 81% graduated high school, 82.5% had some college, 69.6% had college degrees.



Click here to see the complete poll results.





Discovery Institute is a non-profit, non-partisan, public policy think tank headquartered in Seattle and dealing with national and international affairs. For more information, browse Discovery's Web site at:
http://www.discovery.org
.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: controversy; crevolist; evolution; id; ohiopoll; scienceeducation
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-69 next last
To: TonyRo76
the Darwinian dogma of macro-evolution has sufficient falsehood and absurdity to completely unravel on its own

Way to Go TonyRo76
I have said the same thing in different ways many many times.

Wolf
21 posted on 02/15/2006 8:59:40 PM PST by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: fizziwig
Very misleading.

Yeah, I too would support teaching scientific evidence against evolution if such evidence existed. The problem is, it doesn't exist. All the so-called "evidence" against evolution is nothing but a bunch of logical fallacies, misrepresentations, and outright lies concocted by people who can't accept evolution for religious reasons.

22 posted on 02/15/2006 9:00:35 PM PST by curiosity
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: curiosity

"All the so-called "evidence" against evolution is nothing but a bunch of logical fallacies"
_________________________________

The fossil record does not support Darwinism....i.e. gradualism as Darwin proposed. That is why Steven J. Gould developed the theory of punctuated equilibrium....to explain the sudden appearnces of species in the fossil record.

The fossil record shows the flaws in Darwinism and Gould tried to compensate for it. Its not a logical fallacy, its just....science.



So how is Gould's theory a logical fallacy?


23 posted on 02/15/2006 9:10:13 PM PST by fizziwig (Democrats: so far off the path, so incredibly vicious, so sadly pathetic.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: fizziwig
First of all, punctuated equilibrium is taught in schools.

Second of all, it doesn't conflict with Darwinism. Darwin himself hypothesized that evolution might not proceed at a constant rate, but might proceed at a faster rate at some times, and proceed at a slow rate at others. Eldridge and Gould merely showed that the fossil record confirms this hypothesis.

To answer your question, punctuated equilibrium is not a logical fallacy. Using it to argue against evolution is.

24 posted on 02/15/2006 9:26:08 PM PST by curiosity
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: curiosity
Darwin himself hypothesized that evolution might not proceed at a constant rate, but might proceed at a faster rate at some times, and proceed at a slow rate at others. Eldridge and Gould merely showed that the fossil record confirms this hypothesis.

Of course the fossil record confirms the hypothesis, because the hypothesis is based upon the fossil record.

Or would you deny that Darwin formulated these opinions absent knowledge of the current state of the static record?

25 posted on 02/15/2006 9:49:57 PM PST by csense
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: SirLinksalot
Those poll numbers don't seem to translate into political clout:

_________________________________

Dover CARES swept the race for school board Tuesday defeating board members who supported the curriculum change being challenged in federal court.

Pro-ID school board members in Dover, PA swept from office

______________________________

Presidential politics: Dover is in York County, which supported George W. Bush in the last two presidential elections. According to unofficial vote totals for 2004, Bush received 114,621 votes and John Kerry received 63,628 votes. [my note: that's about 64% for Bush!]

http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/politicalInfo.php?locIndex=275620

________________________________

Here are three GOP office holders who are distancing themselves from ID:

Santorum: Don't put intelligent design in classroom

Jeb Bush on science standards and teaching ID:

He wants those standards to become more rigorous -- and raising the standards should take priority over discussing whether intelligent design has a place in the public schools' curriculum, he said.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1547174/posts

And here is Governor Taft backing away from ID:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1572692/posts

26 posted on 02/15/2006 9:59:29 PM PST by Ken H
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: curiosity
First of all, punctuated equilibrium is taught in schools.

Second of all, it doesn't conflict with Darwinism. Darwin himself hypothesized that evolution might not proceed at a constant rate, but might proceed at a faster rate at some times, and proceed at a slow rate at others. Eldridge and Gould merely showed that the fossil record confirms this hypothesis.

Punctuated equilibrium is a creation by evolutionists because there is/was no fossil record supporting evolution. It is intellectually dishonest to then turn around and claim that punctuated equilibrium is supported by the fossil record.

The lack of a record is no record; at all!

27 posted on 02/15/2006 10:05:21 PM PST by connectthedots
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: curiosity

There are two places to look for verification of Darwin's theory: the fossil record and breeding experiments with animals. If Darwin's theory is correct, the fossil record should show innumerable slight gradations between earlier species and later ones. Darwin was aware, however, that the fossil record of his day showed nothing of the sort. There were enormous discontinuities between major animal and plant groups. He accordingly entitled his chapter on the subject, "On the Imperfection of the Geological Record." He hoped that future digging would fill in the gaps, which he admitted to be "the gravest objection to my theory." Enormous quantities of fossils have been dug up since, and, if anything, they make more glaring the gaps which troubled Darwin. Stephen Jay Gould, the Harvard biologist, calls this lack of gradual change in the fossil record the "trade secret" of modem paleontology.

The fossil record shows exactly what it showed in Darwin's day-that species appear suddenly in a fully developed state and change little or not at all before disappearing (99 out of 100 species are extinct). About 550 million years ago at the beginning of the Cambrian era there was an explosion of complex life forms--mollusks, jellyfish, trilobites--for which not a single ancestral form can be found in earlier rocks. A man from Mars looking at the subsequent fossil record would say that species are replaced by other species, rather than evolve into them. Paleontologist Stephen Stanley writes that "the fossil record does not convincingly demonstrate a single transition from one species to another."


28 posted on 02/15/2006 10:05:54 PM PST by fizziwig (Democrats: so far off the path, so incredibly vicious, so sadly pathetic.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: cogitator
I hope you like heat.

;-/

29 posted on 02/15/2006 10:06:24 PM PST by Gargantua (For those who believe in God, no explanation is needed; for those who do not, no explanation exists.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

Comment #30 Removed by Moderator

To: The Ghost of FReepers Past; ohioWfan; Tribune7; Tolkien; GrandEagle; Right in Wisconsin; Dataman; ..
ping


Revelation 4:11Intelligent Design
See my profile for info

31 posted on 02/16/2006 10:16:24 AM PST by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SirLinksalot
B) Biology teachers should teach Darwin’s theory of evolution, but also the scientific evidence against it. 68.6%

Clearly, the people are insane. < /s>

32 posted on 02/16/2006 10:34:06 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SirLinksalot; wallcrawlr
Thanks for the ping,

I will give it a 'reality rejects evo bump'

Maybe a reject evo on its own merits=NOT ping list is needed
33 posted on 02/16/2006 10:37:45 AM PST by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SirLinksalot; wallcrawlr
B) Biology teachers should teach Darwin’s theory of evolution, but also the scientific evidence against it.

In 2006 in Ohio:

B = 68.8%

Good for us! I knew we Ohioans were a smart bunch. :)

Let's hear it for ACADEMIC FREEDOM against leftist control of our schools.

34 posted on 02/16/2006 10:51:18 AM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RunningWolf

Good morning, Wolf!

Freepmail later, much later.


35 posted on 02/16/2006 11:01:28 AM PST by little jeremiah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: SirLinksalot
Of those that agreed: Biology teachers should teach Darwin’s theory of evolution, but also the scientific evidence against it.

78.6% of Republicans agreed, 58.6% of Democrats agreed, and 67% of Independents agreed.

70% of men agreed, and 67.8% of women.

51% had some high school, 69% graduated high school, 67.8% had some college, 70% had college degrees.

****************

Impossible. Everyone knows that anyone who disputes the theory of evolution looks like this:


36 posted on 02/16/2006 12:25:32 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Coyoteman
There are many evidences.
Of COURSE there are the numerous lies and fakes that some scientists have done. This is what I'm mostly interested in people teaching. They just quietly take something out when it's proven wrong and very few know of it. And also...

The "living fossils" have ALL remained unchanged since the fossil times.

The fact that Evolution has never been seen, observed, or tested makes it not science along with creation (The observation , identification, description, experimental investigation , and theoretical explanation of phenomena.)

The fact that we have no proof of "missing links". The human missing links could very well be what?-humans!

The law that complex systems, if left to their own devices, will degrade not upgrade.

The raw mathematics is nearly impossible. The chance in 1 in a ton. Way above the 10 to the 130th or something that rules impossibility.

These are just a few of them. There are many more and I'm a amateur. Also another thought. I've seen a good deal of people with the thick upper-brow of the Neanderthals. Is that just chance or some blending of the old Neanderthal genes?
37 posted on 02/16/2006 3:45:58 PM PST by onja ("The government of England is a limited mockery." (France is a complete mockery.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: onja
From your post you must be new to these threads.

I would strongly recommend you consult PatrickHenry's List-O-Links.

This will provide you with sufficient background so that you won't repeat all of the same old creationist arguments that have been shown to be inaccurate long ago.

38 posted on 02/16/2006 4:31:50 PM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: SirLinksalot
Ohio State School Board ==>> Ohio State Indoctrination Board.

Academic Freedom and Critical Thinking apparently are no longer legal in Ohio

39 posted on 02/16/2006 6:19:20 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Comment #40 Removed by Moderator


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-69 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson