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Report: 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Cost $363M
ABC NEWS ^ | 2-13-2006 | LIZ SIDOTI

Posted on 02/14/2006 6:52:38 AM PST by Cagey

WASHINGTON Feb 13, 2006 (AP)— Discharging troops under the Pentagon's policy on gays cost $363.8 million over 10 years, almost double what the government concluded a year ago, a private report says.

The report, to be released Tuesday by a University of California Blue Ribbon Commission, questioned the methodology the Government Accountability Office used when it estimated that the financial impact of the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy was at least $190.5 million.

"It builds on the previous findings and paints a more complete picture of the costs," said Rep. Marty Meehan, D-Mass., who has proposed legislation that would repeal the policy.

Congress approved the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy in 1993 during the Clinton administration. It allows gays and lesbians to serve in the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marine Corps as long as they abstain from homosexual activity and do not disclose their sexual orientation.

The Servicemembers Legal Defense Network, which has represented service members who left the military under the policy, estimates the Pentagon has discharged more than 10,000 service members for homosexuality since "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" went into effect in 1994. The number of discharges has gone down in recent years.

In February 2005, the GAO said the financial impact could not be completely estimated because the government does not collect financial information specific to each individual's case.

Cautioning that the figures may be too low, the GAO said the federal government spent at least $95.4 million to recruit and $95.1 million to train replacements from 1994 through 2003 for the 9,488 troops discharged during that period because of the policy.

The university study said the GAO erred by emphasizing the expense of replacing those who were discharged because of the policy without taking into account the value the military lost from the departures.

So, the commission focused on the estimated value the military lost from each person discharged. The report detailed costs of $79.3 million for recruiting enlisted service members, $252.4 million for training them, $17.8 million for training officers and $14.3 million for "separation travel" once a service member is discharged.

Commission members include former Defense Secretary William Perry, a member of the Clinton administration, and Lawrence Korb, a former assistant defense secretary during the Reagan administration, as well as professors from the U.S. Military Academy at West Point.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: askthem; dod; dontaskdonttell; getthemout; homosexualagenda; militaryreadiness; nogaysinmilitary; outthedoor
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1 posted on 02/14/2006 6:52:39 AM PST by Cagey
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Congress approved the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy in 1993 during the Clinton administration.

How the heck did that slip in? Somebody might be about to lose their job.

2 posted on 02/14/2006 6:54:57 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (E)
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I wonder how much it cost when the original ban on homosexuals in the military cost? Was it more or less? If less, I doubt we will hear about it. This report seems to suggest that kicking them out under "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" cost so much so we should just allow them to practice their perversion openly, I guess.


3 posted on 02/14/2006 6:57:19 AM PST by Sister_T (Kenneth Blackwell for Governor of Ohio!)
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To: Cagey

Worth every penney... A brokeback military would not be as effective.


4 posted on 02/14/2006 6:59:01 AM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: Cagey

Gee. Finally the MSM does a story about something besides the discrepency between the 1965 projections of the costs of Medicare and the actual costs of that program.


5 posted on 02/14/2006 7:01:21 AM PST by Steely Tom (Your taboos are not my taboos.)
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That's if you place any value on these fruities - the real cost is how many don't join over concerns about these fairies being in the military.

I agree the policy should be withdrawn and the flower sniffing daisy picking GI Joe's and Jane's need to get back in the closet where they belong - we do need laws that protect the sheep from those candy ass sheep humping hollywood herders however.
6 posted on 02/14/2006 7:01:49 AM PST by kentj
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To: ClearCase_guy
Discharging troops under the Pentagon's policy on gays cost $363.8 million over 10 years, almost double what the government concluded a year ago, a private report says.

Sooo a private report conflicts with the government report, eh? Well, whichever report makes Bush look the WORST, that is the one the press will believe and hype.

7 posted on 02/14/2006 7:03:51 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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"estimates the Pentagon has discharged more than 10,000 service members for homosexuality since "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" went into effect in 1994"

And we were discharging them prior to that date for the very same reasons. I know because I handled several of these discharges durin my time in the Navy.

Discharging homosexuals may cost the military money but "Don't ask, don't tell" hasn't jack to do with it. Prior to "DADT" they just lied to get in. Cost of DADT? Probably close to $0.


8 posted on 02/14/2006 7:04:08 AM PST by L98Fiero
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To: Cagey

Totally meaningless without an explanation of how the number was derived; and totally meaningless without a comparison to some alternative (which does not exist). So, we are reduced to the one true important question here: how much did this "cost estimate" cost?


9 posted on 02/14/2006 7:05:42 AM PST by captain_dave
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Brokeback Military Alert!


10 posted on 02/14/2006 7:05:59 AM PST by stocksthatgoup (http://www.busateripens.com)
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To: Cagey

How does discharging a gay person, cost any different, than discharging anyone else?


11 posted on 02/14/2006 7:06:13 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: advance_copy

"Worth every penney... A brokeback military would not be as effective."

Larger fines in sentencing may help defray the cost, also suing any poofster organizations that have promoted enlisting, while concealing homoness.



12 posted on 02/14/2006 7:13:23 AM PST by ansel12
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How does discharging a gay person, cost any different, than discharging anyone else?

Because if you don't give them flowers and a manicure coupon they'll scratch your eyes out.

13 posted on 02/14/2006 7:14:00 AM PST by VRWCmember (You are STILL safer hunting with Dick Cheney than riding in a car with Ted Kennedy!)
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To: L98Fiero

This makes little sense to me. Before Don't Ask Don't Tell my illustrious Navy JAG career consisted largely of homosexual discharge boards. (Including the great Manama Lesbian Mutiny in 1991). I can't believe there are more now than there were then. Mind you, I thought it was mostly silly then, and I think it is mostly silly now.


14 posted on 02/14/2006 7:16:21 AM PST by SalukiLawyer
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"Brokeback Military Alert!"

You'd be surprized how many effiminate acting guys get pressured into the military by their parents, trying to make a "man" out of their little daisy. Lots of times they get weeded out in boot camp (my company lost 2) by admitting to being gay in order to get back home. Other times they break the news before a big deployment or whatever.

They would get discharged so I don't see where DADT changed anything.


15 posted on 02/14/2006 7:17:22 AM PST by L98Fiero
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...suing any poofster organizations that have promoted enlisting, while concealing homoness

Outstanding and excellent use of language. Brilliant!
16 posted on 02/14/2006 7:20:09 AM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: Cagey

Isn't this a Pink Ribbon panel. How was this funded?. Hopefully not California taxpayers. No wonder they're in the can financially. But maybe the University of California got a grant from the "Brokeback Family Foundation."


17 posted on 02/14/2006 7:37:57 AM PST by Nextrush (The Chris Matthews Band: "I get high..I get high...I get high..McCain.")
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To: SalukiLawyer
Please elaborate on the great Manama Lesbian Mutiny. Stampeding bull dykes?
18 posted on 02/14/2006 7:41:04 AM PST by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions)
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"The report, to be released Tuesday by a University of California Blue Ribbon Commission"

And I bet they look just absolutely SUPER SPECIAL in their blue ribbons.

19 posted on 02/14/2006 7:43:08 AM PST by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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Left unsaid is the unrealized savings of not treating their much higher rate of sexually transmitted diseases, HIV.


20 posted on 02/14/2006 7:43:22 AM PST by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions)
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