Cheney and shooting victim were hunting illegally, officials say

I didn't know you could get a stamp for Lawyer in Texas

I thought if they are looking you get extra points

I hear Bush will pardon him. ;)

But will he pardon the quail the way he pardoned the turkeys on Thanksgiving Day?

If you want to hear about a real shooting in Kenedy County, Texas, here's some of it, the rest is at the website. Kenedy, Texas in Kenedy County was the original "Sixshooter Junction." The "Gunfight at the O.K. Corral" was small potatos, by comparison.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ammons/daileyville-menu.html

THE FRACAS AT DAILEYVILLE, 1886, five died.

The story presented here is based on the sworn testimony given in the Justice of the Peace Inquest.

The statements were taken under oath in the first few days after the episode.
Some of the common points among the witnesses are:
"There was a lot of gunsmoke. I couldn't see anything."
"I couldn't see whether it was a pistol or a rifle."
The ranch hands seemed to give some rehearsed and self-serving testimony:
"We all left our firearms on the ground at the ranch. I didn't see anything or do anything."

It was a local option Election Day. Firearms were not allowed in any town on Election Day. Seven Butlers and ten Butler cowhands gathered around a "hack" or hackney buggy which had three empty feed sacks on the floorboards, and two blankets on the seat. The hack was owned and driven that morning by Andrew M. Nichols, a son-in-law of WGB. The horse was tied to a tree south of the store and voting place.(8)

Two pistolero cowboys rode up, tied their horses, pulled their long rifles from the scabbards, and walked to the hack with guns in hand. Juan Coy and Epitacio Garza were said to be bodyguards for WGB, and were very proficient with their extra-long Winchesters. Pulling these rifles was illegal.

Deputy Jack Bailey walked immediately out to the hack, and began talking with his friend and schoolmate Newton Butler. Newton was married to the Sheriff's sister Mary Elder. Bailey was unaware of the seriousness of the situation.

Sheriff Elder, with his red hair and long red beard, was seated at the front of the store, whittling on wood. Seeing these two with rifles, Fate Elder strode briskly from the front of the Dailey store toward the hack, just behind Bailey, putting up his whittling knife as he walked. (8) He pulled his pistol and held it out in his right hand, and his attention was on the Mexicans with the long rifles. Juan said "Stop," and then he said "Stop" again. Elder said nothing. In about one minute, in a fierce outbreak of gunfire, Sheriff Fate Elder, Deputy Bud Elder, and Henry Pullin lay dead. Hiram Pullin died a few hours later, and Deputy Jack Bailey died the next day.(7)

Several men testified that the Mexicans started the shooting. Juan Coy fired on Fate Elder, and advanced while firing again. According to testimony, Fate Elder then backed around the hack, toward two mesquite trees, to avoid Juan Coy and his Winchester. Fate snapped his pistol twice, but the bullets misfired. Then another man "advanced to the rear and a little to the right of Elder, and placed his pistol within about four inches of the right side of the back part of Sheriff Elder's head, and fired."(17) Elder's hat blew up into the air, and Elder fell forward dead.(8) At the inquest, this man was said to be 18-year-old Sykes Butler. He was wearing a new broad-brim white hat.
Deputy Bud Elder was inside the voting place when he heard the first shots. He bounded quickly out the front door with his pistol in his hand. Four men immediately began firing at him with Winchesters from a distance. Garza and Coy had just wounded Sheriff Fate Elder with their Winchesters, and at a timely moment Garza and Coy, with two others, were able to direct their long-range rifle fire at Deputy Bud Elder. They succeeded in wounding him seriously.

"There were four men with Winchesters. As soon as Fate Elder fell, they all commenced shooting at Bud Elder, who was just coming out of the door of the election room."(8)

From The San Antonio Daily Express: "The Mexicans and others then began firing rapidly towards the door of the store where J. J. Elder, deputy sheriff, is said to have come out. When J. J. Elder came to the door he saw Wm. G. Butler coming out of a gate towards the front of the store very near him, when he (Elder) opened fire on Butler, shooting at him twice before Butler got in any shots; after which Elder and Butler advanced close upon each other and exchanged several shots between them. Elder was killed and Butler was shot in one ear. Both had their faces powder burnt. Butler fired four or five shots and Elder emptied his pistol. Elder had six or eight balls to penetrate his person, and two, which glanced his body, made deep furrows. It is the general supposition that Elder received a fatal wound from the rifle volley fired on him from near the hack before he encountered Butler, as he was known to be a good shot with his pistol and in good practice; hence his bad shooting. J. J. Elder fought to his death. After he was shot to his knees, he still tried to work his pistol, although all the loads were gone, and he died with his pistol cocked and his finger on the trigger."

Throughout this writing, "WGB" means William Green Butler, Bill Butler.
Some have speculated that WGB was deliberately waiting in the front yard of the Dailey home to engage Deputy Bud Elder should he come out of the store. We do know that WGB was in that yard for a long time, behind the front door of the store, and he carried an unauthorized pistol. When the first shots were fired out near the hack, Butler went directly to the gate and rounded the corner of the store.

WGB and the already-wounded Bud Elder were then in a man-to-man gunfight, shooting at each other's heads. Elder got in two shots before Butler was able to fire his first one.
Elder was shot down to his knees by both the rifle fire and the pistol fire. He fired all his bullets, but was not shooting well because he was in a dire condition.
After Elder's "loads were gone," from the phrase above, someone then walked up to Bud Elder and shot him in the head at close range with a pistol.
Elder was later found to be shot with more bullets than WGB's revolver would hold, showing that some of his wounds were from the rifle fire.
WGB was wounded in the right ear. Some people thought that WGB wore an iron breastplate under his shirt, but this has not been verified.
Some had reported that young Bud Elder had said, some days earlier, that if ever there were trouble, "he was going to go for the old man," 52-year-old William Green Butler.

Both Fate Elder and Bud Elder were administered the coup de grace by pistol bullet to the head. This final and fatal shot to the head was performed more often in the Southwest in that century than we today want to hear about or think about.

When he realized how serious the situation was, Deputy Jack Bailey hastened away from the hack with pistol in hand, and fled to the "safety" of the yard beside the store. "Poor Jack Bailey took no part in the shooting, for he at once saw that the officers were overpowered and had no earthly chance, as it is said at least 15 or 20 were shooting. He therefore retired to the yard, where some unknown person, willfully and most cruelly shot him down, and although he called out after being shot down, 'Don't shoot me again, I don't want to hurt anyone,' the murderer cruelly shot him again, from the effects of which wounds he died the next day."

There was no evidence or testimony that Bailey had fired his pistol.

Bailey fell wounded to the ground in the yard, which was on the east side of the store. While he was flat on his back on the ground, his head to the east and his feet toward the store, he called out pleadings to the shooter. Bailey was then deliberately shot twice more. The fabric of his pants leg moved, the weeds moved, and dust flew up as these bullets struck his knee.

Jack Bailey called out loudly to those who fired the last two shots at him. The following testimony was given at the inquest:
From P. B. Butler: "Don't shoot me. I don't want to hurt anybody."
From Tom Pullin: "Don't shoot me, I had not done anything to be shot for."
From Charles Coleman: "Don't shoot me, don't shoot me."
From Tom Oliphant: "Don't shoot me. I never done nothing."
From Tom Oliphant: "O Lordy, O Lordy. Don't shoot me. I never done nothing."
From Tom Oliphant: "O Lordy, O Lordy. Don't shoot me. I never done anything."

'I heard Jack Bailey holler "Oh Lordie" and I looked and he was lying down in the yard. I then heard another shot out near the hack and Jack said: "Don't shoot me. I never done nothing." About the time I heard that shot, I thought I saw the dust fly out of Jack's right pants leg. Jack was then lying with his feet toward the house, his head from the house.'

'He was down on his back. He seemed to have just falled. I saw then the weeds and the dust fly from his pants leg and his leg jumped as if he were shot. I at the same time heard the report of a large gun in front of the store. I heard Jack repeating "O Lordy, O Lordy, don't shoot me. I never done anything." About the time I heard that shot, I thought I saw the dust fly out of Jack's right pants leg.'

Bailey was wounded in the right leg, and his left knee was shattered. His left leg was amputated by Dr. S. G. Dailey and Dr. Amos Graves on Tuesday. Bailey died shortly after the operation.(8)

Dr. Amos Graves had been summoned from San Antonio by a telegram, to attend to Bailey and Pullin. He arrived on a special SAAP train at about 1:00 am Tuesday, and amputated Bailey's leg about 9:00 am.

As Jack Bailey lay dying Tuesday, several persons asked him who shot him, and he would not say. His wife then asked him. He asked her to bring her ear down close to his mouth, and he did whisper something to her. She never revealed what he said.

Jack Bailey did not fire a shot, but was nevertheless gunned down deliberately. He was shot three or four times by unidentified persons.

Was Jack Bailey shot by the four men with Winchesters?

In regard to the direction in which Bud Elder was firing, "There is the most unimpeachable evidence that neither Jack Bailey nor Hiram Pullin were in range of Bud Elder's pistol."

Alfonso (Ildefonso) Coy's testimony at the inquest reported that Deputy Jack Bailey had harassed members of the Coy family, when Bailey went out on the ranches to conduct investigations. This may possibly have irritated the Butler family. And it may have sealed Bailey's fate.

The Pullin brothers had been talking together while sitting on boxes at the gate to the Dailey yard, adjacent to the store where the voting took place.(8)
Henry Pullin died instantly, and Hiram Pullin some hours later.
Were Henry and Hiram Pullin hit by stray shots from the four men with Winchesters, who were shooting at Bud Elder?
Or were they deliberately killed because they had witnessed too much?

It is desperate measures to make any story big get rating and more advertising money.

It's a business and they would gladly screw anyone to make money, but they would love it if they can screw a conservative politician for sure IMO.

Fear not, this whole thing will quickly die down when the Public ignores the MSM as well as the Rats.

There are already signs of this happening. The public sees this for what it really is and the Liberals are looking from bad to worse.

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Gee, what did Dan doi wrong that he needs pardoning for?

I long for the good ole 1950s again.

So do we, and shop at www.BulletBras.net

The Corpus Christi Caller times has one of the finest Outdoor pages around. It's one of the newspapers in "my favorites" because of that. What better Paper to report on this? LOL

10% is it that high

Remember, Edward Moore Kennedy was driving with an expired license back on July 18, 1969. His ass was saved because we put a man on the moon that same weekend.

Dick Cheney is absolutely right, the fumbling media are a bunch of "clymers".

Whether it is reported at the exact second of instance, or three weeks later, does it change the facts of the story?

Allow me to put this into perspective:

Bill Clinton raped several women and the press said nothing.

Thank you. We return you to the nannering nabobs of negativity now.

here in California we don't need a Snipe stamp, we just use the old stick and burlap bag on em.

KC Star is another liberal newspaper not worth the time. I refuse to read it.

Anybody know the pedigree of this paper?Yep. It's definitely a mut. :-)

Actually, the article is posted in the Kansas City Star, but written for the Dallas Morning News.

This whole story is silly.I'm still laughing at the White House Press corps.Their righteous indignation was hilarious.

David Gregory of NBC had his panties so twisted and stuffed so far up his butt he was squeeking when he spoke! What a pansy.

:)

That's what I'd call lucky.

That's what I'd call lucky and a forgetful media.

That's how we do it in IN too. Glad to hear from someone who knows how to snipe hunt.
You would not believe the number of people on the net that have begged me or offered to pay me to take them snipe hunting. lol