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African immigrants face bias from blacks Tension climbs highest in poor communities
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | February 13, 2006 | Ervin Dyer

Posted on 02/13/2006 1:11:11 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen

In 1989, Zedueh Doerue, a proud and traditional-minded father of eight, smuggled his family out of civil-war ravaged Liberia into Guinea, a more stable West African nation to the south.

Zedueh Doerue:
"I don't understand it."

Before long, Guinea, a former French colony, began to slide into political unrest as well, and Mr. Doerue was jailed and harassed as an insurgent because he spoke English.

Four years ago, a Catholic refugee resettlement program brought him to Pittsburgh, where two of his children were born. Now, working as a nursing assistant and living in a two-story Bon Air home, Mr. Doerue and his family would seem to have left danger and chaos behind.

But Mr. Doerue, 44, said that for the last year he's been continually harassed, his children have been bullied by neighborhood thugs, his car damaged and the windows on his home have been repeatedly broken.

Mr. Doerue has called police because he feels "hunted" by the perpetrators, who he claims are mostly black youths.

Police are unclear on the motives for the attacks, and Mr. Doerue said, "I don't understand it."

He's not alone. Many sociologists and researchers are trying to understand the relationships between black Americans and a recent boom of immigrants who have come to America from Africa and the Caribbean.

It is not always an easy transition and black Americans and the immigrants find they are being forced to confront complex issues of identity, ethnicity and community.

(Excerpt) Read more at post-gazette.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: african; africanamericans; americanafricans; black
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1 posted on 02/13/2006 1:11:15 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Stand Watch Listen

No Kwanza in Pittsburgh?


2 posted on 02/13/2006 1:13:44 AM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: DTogo

i personally know a professor at a large university. he is a black immigrant from uganda. he and his family are the nicest people. he tells me the hatred other blacks feel for him at the university is palpable. take this tale as you wish. i dont think he would lie to me about this.


3 posted on 02/13/2006 1:18:19 AM PST by son of caesar
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To: Stand Watch Listen
One popular black comedian (Cosby or Pryor IIRC) talked about the ridiculousness of (paraphrasing) "modern white slavery" compared to youth black thuggery of today.

Old black men are just as scared in the ghetto as suburban white bread!
4 posted on 02/13/2006 1:20:31 AM PST by endthematrix (None dare call it ISLAMOFACISM!)
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To: Stand Watch Listen

my experience has been that recent immigrants from sub-saharan africa have good work ethics and generally are a good class of people to bring into the US. Obviously if you start filling planes full of abritrarily selected people matters will change, but the folks who go through our immigration procedures seem for the most part to be good additions to society.


5 posted on 02/13/2006 1:21:16 AM PST by WoofDog123
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To: Stand Watch Listen

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6 posted on 02/13/2006 1:22:42 AM PST by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: son of caesar

"he tells me the hatred other blacks feel for him at the university is palpable"

I have heard something basicly identical.


7 posted on 02/13/2006 1:22:42 AM PST by WoofDog123
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To: WoofDog123
If anything their resentment is against the black urban welfare state. Picking up oneself by their bootstraps is common among African immigrants.
8 posted on 02/13/2006 1:24:49 AM PST by endthematrix (None dare call it ISLAMOFACISM!)
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To: Stand Watch Listen
American Blacks hating African Blacks is nothing new. I recall quite a ruckus, mostly kept quite, back in 1968, where black US GI's in Ethiopia were raising hell with the locals to the extent that emperor Haile Selassie want them the out. I worked in the US Army personnel office there, doing studies on the subject for the brass, but was reassigned to RVN before action on the subject (if any) was taken.
9 posted on 02/13/2006 1:44:50 AM PST by redfreedom (Just a simpleton enjoying the freedoms a fly-over/red state has to offer.)
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To: Stand Watch Listen

Let's face it. The mere existence of voluntary, successful immigrants from Africa undermines much of the mythology popular among many black Americans. If you blame the failures in your community on America racism, oppression, inequality, etc., why would Africans possibly want to come here voluntarily? And once here, how could they possibly accomplish anything? The fact that they're doing the things they're doing (i.e., getting jobs, working, going to school, etc.) is incompatible with the mentality of victimhood.


10 posted on 02/13/2006 1:53:16 AM PST by irishjuggler
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To: Stand Watch Listen

This elucidates the whole pack of lies concerning "racism". What we are talking about here is culturalism. Ghetto culture is garbage. Take a bunch of people, whine and cry over all the injustices to their ancestors - encourage separatism, expect little from them and hold them accountable for absolutely nothing, and then subsidize dependency - and you're going to get garbage for culture - I don't care what color or ethnicity you start with. Liberal pampering - failed everywhere it's tried.

When this immigrant family comes and faces harassment in the middle of ghetto culture - the "police are unclear on the motives for the attacks". Maybe they're thinking "Gee, they're black, so are the long-time residents. Duhhh...what's the problem?"

And all these earnest pinheaded sociologists carefully ponder the unfathomable puzzle of how people of the same skin color can act and be treated differently. What a bunch of infuriatingly hypocritical and obtuse schmucks.


11 posted on 02/13/2006 1:55:06 AM PST by guitfiddlist (When the 'Rats break out switchblades, it's no time to invoke Robert's Rules.)
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To: guitfiddlist
You make excellent points but your post is too long for me to repeat. So, I will just add my little bit to what you have said, as that is what I was going to say anyway.

Those analyzing the situation make the mistake you point out - they focus on color and income, calling it racism and poverty, but not on the real problem, a lack of strong moral and social values.

Being poor has no connection with being bad. Being black has no connection to being bad. Again, as you said, they have had years of others telling them that poverty and racism are their problems so they accept that crutch.

Those pushing the ideas are wanting to socialize America and they need these folks to remain victim-props for them.
12 posted on 02/13/2006 2:09:09 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Likewise, black Americans who have survived in this country can help immigrants sustain identities in schools and help build political coalitions.

Uh oh! I smell democrat victimology indoctrination all over that sentences.

13 posted on 02/13/2006 2:18:20 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: endthematrix
If anything their resentment is against the black urban welfare state. Picking up oneself by their bootstraps is common among African immigrants.

I saw this with my Eritrean next door neighbor. A young widow with two very small kids (she was just a couple of months pregnant with the youngest when her husband unexpectedly died), she managed to pull herself together, continue the small business her husband worked, and is now living in a very expensive home. She pickeda neighborhood where she wouldn't have to live around too many Mexicans or "African" Americans--her words.

14 posted on 02/13/2006 2:25:51 AM PST by beaversmom
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I've never seen hardship and work ethic embodied in wonderful Christan single mom from Uganda IIRC. She was a live-in caregiver for my father in his last days. She had the "privilege of opportunity" to come to America and care for the dying, but had to leave her kids behind. She works all the time and sends back the cash. To be raised in the armpit of Africa, be apart from you children while constantly surrounded by death...and be PROUD and THANKFUL? God has blessed her for sure!
15 posted on 02/13/2006 2:49:34 AM PST by endthematrix (None dare call it ISLAMOFACISM!)
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To: Stand Watch Listen

A close friend of mine had two African roomates in DC, two of the nicest guys I've ever met. They were really adamant about not having anything to do with American blacks. Curious but true.


16 posted on 02/13/2006 2:54:15 AM PST by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Count Petofi will not be denied!)
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To: irishjuggler

" "undermines much of the mythology"

BBINGO!


17 posted on 02/13/2006 3:02:43 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: GodBlessRonaldReagan; beaversmom; endthematrix; irishjuggler
There is a dear man at my church. He and his family are from Liberia. He's a godly man and periodically goes back to his country, at great danger, to do missionary work.

He's a detective in one of the cities here. He often experiences the African American culture. He is disgusted with the victimization that is so ingrown, so prevalent in the culture. The 'man' is always talked about...this boogeyman' that presents so many hurdles, so many detours in the African American's striving to succeed.

He said his greatest struggle at the present time is to protect his sons from the 'influence', the mind set of the African American peers. His sons want to fit in so there is pressure not to do well in school, in society in general. He is successfully winning the battle so far.

18 posted on 02/13/2006 3:18:10 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: WoofDog123

The black underclass doesnt seem to be able to get along with anyone, including themselves.


19 posted on 02/13/2006 3:59:31 AM PST by armydawg1 (" America must win this war..." PVT Martin Treptow, KIA, WW1)
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To: Stand Watch Listen
A few weeks ago I went to an ATM machine in a suburb of Cleveland, and was the only white person amongst a group of around six black people.

As usual in the big city, everybody was pretty much keeping to themselves, not talking, just waiting for their turn at the machine.

Then one fellow started up a conversation with me, and I recognized that he had an accent of some sort, and I asked him if he was from the West Indies; he told me no, he was from Camaroon.

From that point on until we got our turns at the machine, we had a pleasant conversation.

In light of this story, I have look back at that and wonder why he chose me, the only white person there, to make small talk with.

20 posted on 02/13/2006 5:36:56 AM PST by Kenton
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