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10,000 would die' in A-plant attack on Iran
telegraph ^ | 2/13/06 | Thomas Harding

Posted on 02/12/2006 5:01:28 PM PST by Flavius

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To: Alter Kaker

61 posted on 02/12/2006 5:41:14 PM PST by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Bubbatuck

"The problem is that the Iranian people could well be out best allies in the area. Most Iranians are NOT anti-American."

I believe that that statement is a myth ... where is the proof of this? I have heard this mentioned many times without ANYTHING to back it up.


62 posted on 02/12/2006 5:42:07 PM PST by MaDeuce (Do it to them, before they do it to you!)
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To: Bubbatuck

re: We need to take out the leaders

I would like to believe that just such plans are underway. Removal of ten to twenty of their top people would do more good than killing 10,000 Iranians as a result of collateral damage.


63 posted on 02/12/2006 5:43:09 PM PST by jwpjr
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To: Viking2002
More peace pukery from snaggle-toothed pointyheads who would love nothing more than to see Western Civilization bend over and grab it's collective ankles. Be a real shame if one of our bombers 'accidentally' lost it's payload over Oxford, wouldn't it?

You don't see any irony between decrying the death of Western Civilization and calling for the nuking of the oldest university in the English-speaking world?

Oxford counts among its alumni 12 kings, 47 Nobel laureates, 25 British Prime Ministers, eighteen cardinals, seven saints and a Pope. I'm trying hard (and failing) to think of another institution more central to the Western Civ you're ostensibly trying to protect.

And yet you call for nuking it. You're an idiot.

64 posted on 02/12/2006 5:45:51 PM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: MaDuce

Iranians who have already fled Iran and brought their $ billion personal fortunes with them are definitely with us. Of those left in Iran, aside from a few students and the private citizens who are always present and amazed by their gov't, a great many will go along with the gov't and the mullahs. They see Iran as their home country and will defend it no matter what. The best deal is to overwhelm the defences and take out the nukular capability quickly and then stop without setting boot inside their territory. If the aforementioned radical students and amazed private citizens can then seize power so much the better, but they won't.


65 posted on 02/12/2006 5:48:01 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: MaDuce
Excuse meeeee! That has already been trademarked by the French ... only the French can have glass bottom boats

Never let it be said that the Iranians are above copying an idea, even if it is French....

66 posted on 02/12/2006 5:48:32 PM PST by dirtbiker (I've tried to see the liberal point of view, but I couldn't get my head that far up my a$$....)
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To: Tree of Liberty

And thus it becomes a religous war, a rout of all those that worship a deity that praises terrorism in all forms to any means.

If there was an islamabomb detonated in a civilized country ALL the worlds nations will unite, Islam will form no partnership to a non Islamic country, there will be no Islam/China or USSR or N. Korea alliances, Islam will only accept the complete destruction of non muslim faiths. They will not accept Jehovahs Witnesses, Mormons, Scientology or even Buhdda.

But if we strike first we play the game as tyrants, we must call the bluff, prepare, enforce our borders, maintain vigilance at home by whatever means. If a nuke were to be detonated anywhere in the US it would be small much less than people think. Yes many would die but then it opens the door for a complete excuse to rout the infestation from within our borders and eradicate every symbolic vestige of Islam like turning Mecca to glass.

We are a sleeping giant. And we have a giants strength. Our leaders may appear weak and incompetent but its the silent resolve of millions of freedom borne individuals that will fight to the death to preserve their chosen way of life.


67 posted on 02/12/2006 5:51:59 PM PST by Daniel Ramsey
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To: Flavius
"kill up to 10,000 people and lead to war in the Middle East, a report says today. "

Is 10,000 the best we can do with our weaponry? How about striving for 100 times that for a start?

68 posted on 02/12/2006 5:53:51 PM PST by isrul
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To: Flavius

And one or more nuclear devices in cargo containers in a New York, San Fransicso, San Diego, or any other US port would kill how many? In the millions?

Frankly, I agree with Patton's views on us dying or them dying: I vote for THEM!

Mark


69 posted on 02/12/2006 5:55:32 PM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: mkjessup

Wise up indeed! We are at war and it is more than a
"war on terror". A religion of hate, fueled by oil money, is looking to the world. The outcome of this war is based on how long we dither.


70 posted on 02/12/2006 5:56:08 PM PST by welfareisslavery
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To: MaDuce
"The problem is that the Iranian people could well be out best allies in the area. Most Iranians are NOT anti-American."

I believe that that statement is a myth ... where is the proof of this? I have heard this mentioned many times without ANYTHING to back it up.


The proof is in the memories of old Iran hands who remember the days of the Shah (prior to the Shah being sold out by Jimmy Carter), when Iranian society emulated the best of the West, while retaining many of the customs of their Persian past. It was a good mix, and the Shah, for all of his faults, had been generally successful in bringing his country into the 20th Century.

But post-1979 Iran, all sympathizers to the Shah's former rule, not to mention any favorable views regarding America, have been all but exterminated by the mad mullahs, who have had 27 years to eradicate any and all opposition to their insane drive to bring on the "mahdi" (who is nothing but a good old fashioned demon), and to keep Iran firmly planted in the 9th century, like any radical-Islamic state.

While many Iranians may not be anti-American, they are not in a position to do anything about it, because guess what folks?

The mullahs have all the weapons, and all of the firearms.

Hello Sarah Brady?

Your burqa fitting appointment is for 10:00 am tomorrow morning.
71 posted on 02/12/2006 5:56:51 PM PST by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
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To: Daniel Ramsey
If a nuke were to be detonated anywhere in the US it would be small

The actual damage from such a device would be fairly well known and limited, but with all the bureaucrats in the country leveraging their position descriptions for funding demands afterwards the economy would take a huge hit and for a long time. Just tracking the fallout plume would generate a budget greater than the Katrina fiasco.

72 posted on 02/12/2006 5:58:03 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: Flavius
A major American attack on Iran's nuclear sites would kill up to 10,000 people and lead to war in the Middle East, a report says today.

Large even numbers.....yeah that's believable.[/sarcasm]
73 posted on 02/12/2006 5:59:15 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: Flavius
A major American attack on Iran's nuclear sites would kill up to 10,000 people and lead to war in the Middle East, a report says today

Sounds like a nuclear quagmire...QUAGMIRE II, the sequel. Coming to a news media outlet near you.

74 posted on 02/12/2006 5:59:16 PM PST by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: Flavius
Before this issue is settled it is going to make the Bay Of Pigs and Cuban Missile Crisis look like a cake walk.

If the Iranians won't over throw this nut then they must suffer the consequences of being around when the big one goes off.

One thing the Middle Eastern nut jobs have learned is that Bush isn't afraid to give extra work to the military.
75 posted on 02/12/2006 6:04:04 PM PST by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: Flavius

Only 10k, more and bigger bombs are in order!


76 posted on 02/12/2006 6:06:22 PM PST by dalereed
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To: Daniel Ramsey
If a nuke were to be detonated anywhere in the US....

....the damned bureaucrats would be too busy pointing fingers and blaming anybody who would listen, while not doing a damned thing about retaliation....

77 posted on 02/12/2006 6:08:51 PM PST by dirtbiker (I've tried to see the liberal point of view, but I couldn't get my head that far up my a$$....)
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To: dirtbiker

yes but we would get those cool fact finding debates on c-spam 2


78 posted on 02/12/2006 6:15:17 PM PST by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Flavius

OMG bump


79 posted on 02/12/2006 6:17:32 PM PST by GOPJ (If Dems had courage, they could have "the courage of their convictions", if they had convictions.)
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To: Andy from Beaverton

That's exactly the point isn't it.


80 posted on 02/12/2006 6:20:11 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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