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Probe of domestic eavesdropping leak expands-Times
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Posted on 02/11/2006 5:02:08 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance
"Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither"
Grey_whiskers' corollary:
Those who would sacrifice security for "liberty" deserve neither :-)
Cheers!
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posted on
02/11/2006 5:07:17 PM PST
by
grey_whiskers
(The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
To: Indy Pendance
Th administration would do far, far better to let this sleeping dog lie.
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posted on
02/11/2006 5:18:03 PM PST
by
M. Dodge Thomas
(More of the same, only with more zeros at the end.)
To: grey_whiskers
How 'bout "Those who would quote John Conyers deserve derision"?
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posted on
02/11/2006 5:18:21 PM PST
by
Dionysius
(ACLU is the enemy)
To: Indy Pendance
I would hope that those who leaked this highly classified information to the NY Slimes will be prosecuted and incarcerated.
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posted on
02/11/2006 5:20:00 PM PST
by
Signalman
To: Dionysius
how about - hang 'em after the fair trial
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posted on
02/11/2006 5:20:39 PM PST
by
wildcatf4f3
(I'm becoming a performance artist so i can crap on the koran in public)
To: Bobkk47
Yeah, but here's the problem . . . I have yet to see any report on this story that offers any evidence that any of the information "leaked" to the New York Times was classified.
In fact, it is the exact opposite. All of the "classified" information I've come across in the NY Times stories is far from classified.
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posted on
02/11/2006 5:27:19 PM PST
by
Alberta's Child
(Leave a message with the rain . . . you can find me where the wind blows.)
To: Indy Pendance
The Times characterized the case as one that pits the government, for which "the investigation represents an effort to punish those responsible for a serious security breach" and news outlets, for which the inquiry threatens confidentiality of sources "and the ability to report on controversial national security issues free of government interference."Seems giving up sources was okay when they felt they had someone to go after for Valerie Plame. Only one I can think of stood her ground and her reasons for that remain questionable.
"The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." -- Albert Einstein
"In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends." -- Martin Luther King, Jr.
"No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in its preservation." -- General Douglas MacArthur
And one of the best I think;
In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." -- Mark Twain The change being standing up to the Liberal elite that have drawn our great nation deep into the bowels of Socilasim.
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posted on
02/11/2006 5:32:05 PM PST
by
DakotaRed
To: Indy Pendance
Once they seat a Grand Jury they will subpoena Risen and the other traitor to testify, they will refuse to give up their sources and off to jail. 1 month tops for the first jailing.
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posted on
02/11/2006 5:33:19 PM PST
by
Wasanother
(Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
To: M. Dodge Thomas
Wasn't that what the Clinton administration said after the Kenya and Tanzania embassies were bombed? Wasn't that what the Clinton administration said after the bombing of the USS Cole? Isn't that what Democrats have been saying since 9/11? If we don't find a way to stop the leaks, they'll continue until we have NO security left.
To: Alberta's Child
Just the disclosure of the existence of the program is classified and the Slimes was told a year ago that the program was classified and not just their distorted details.
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posted on
02/11/2006 5:37:32 PM PST
by
Wasanother
(Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
To: grey_whiskers
Not to mention those who sacrifice OUR security, for THEIR political purposes.
I hope they find each leaker, both in the intel agencies, NYTimes AND Congress and throw the book at them.
To: Wasanother
How could the existence of the program be considered classified when it was mentioned in the press briefings by the U.S. Justice Department about the case of al-Qaeda conspirator Iyman Faris in the last couple of years? And how could it be classified if it has been the focus of several U.S. Supreme Court cases over the last 30+ years?
The proceedings of these cases are matters of public record, so they'd hardly be "classified" in any sense of the word.
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posted on
02/11/2006 7:17:10 PM PST
by
Alberta's Child
(Leave a message with the rain . . . you can find me where the wind blows.)
To: Indy Pendance
To: Alberta's Child
In fact, it is the exact opposite. All of the "classified" information I've come across in the NY Times stories is far from classified. The thing I really like about the FreeRepublic.com is that there are experts on everything posting their insight every day! A Canadian's insight into US National Security Information matters is particularly helpful to the discussion. About as helpful as an Alberta Clipper.
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posted on
02/11/2006 8:31:14 PM PST
by
SubMareener
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To: Bobkk47
Here is a really good part:
"Before running the story we gave long and sober consideration to the administration's contention that disclosing the program would damage the country's counterterrorism efforts," Mr. Keller said. "We were not convinced then, and have not been convinced since, that our reporting compromised national security. So it the "long and sober consideration" results in the conclusion that "disclosing the program would damage the country's counter-terrorism efforts." The New York Times solution is .... What? They have set themselves up as the dictator of the outcome. Is that free press or sedition?
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posted on
02/11/2006 8:34:59 PM PST
by
SubMareener
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To: Indy Pendance
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posted on
02/11/2006 8:37:41 PM PST
by
Cboldt
To: Cboldt
Switched the title as well. I hate that they do that. Thanks for the link.
To: Indy Pendance
Hope they nail the leakers. The left thinks they can release classified material with impunity and use it for political purposes.
If nothing else, this practice needs to stop.
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posted on
02/11/2006 8:46:44 PM PST
by
TheLion
To: Indy Pendance
If this was 1947 or so, the guilty parties involved would be executed. No question. Then again, so would have Sandy Berger, for theft, destruction and forgery of Federal documents relating to an enemy attack on America. That he got a slap on the wrist and then worst the perps here will do is lose their jobs and get a book deal, is a testament to how low this nation has sunk.
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