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Return Falklands to Argentina - Chavez
The Scotsman ^ | 2/11/06 | JEREMY MCDERMOTT

Posted on 02/10/2006 9:00:31 PM PST by Thunder90

VENEZUELA'S president has called on Tony Blair to return the Falkland Islands to Argentina, accusing the Prime Minister of being a "pawn" of Washington.

"We have to remember the Malvinas [the Argentine name for the islands]; how they were taken away from the Argentines. Mr Blair, return the Malvinas to Argentina," said president Hugo Chavez.

The socialist leader has long been the most vocal critic of US president George Bush, but Mr Blair was added to his list of "imperialists" after the Prime Minister said in parliament on Wednesday that if Mr Chavez wanted to be respected, he "should abide by the rules of the international community".

He responded: "Mr Tony Blair, you have no moral right to tell anyone to respect international laws, as you have shown no respect for them, aligning yourself with 'Mr Danger' [president Bush] and trampling on the people of Iraq. Do you think we still live in the times of the British Empire or colonialism?"

The Argentine president, Nestor Kirchner, has vowed that the islands will one day be part of Argentina, but has not aggressively pursued the issue since taking power in 2003.

A statement released by the Venezuelan presidential palace was more formal but equally critical of Britain, which it now lumped together with the US.

"Venezuela respects the rules of the international community: that is why it does not invade countries, it does not blockade countries, it does not sponsor torture, it does not protect international terrorists and it repudiates the existence of clandestine CIA jails in various European countries. Venezuela is not a genocidal country," it said.


TOPICS: Extended News; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: argentina; blair; britian; brokenclock2aday; chavez; colonialism; communism; falklands; fckthebrits; hugocastro; hugochavez; liberal; malvinas; socialism; tonyblair; unitedkingdom; uptheempire; venezuela
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To: SALChamps03

interesting thought. now would be the correct time for argentina to try again, as britain is preoccupied elsewhere. dont misunderstand my position, im merely commenting on the strategy that could be employed, im not endorsing it.


81 posted on 02/11/2006 2:56:54 AM PST by son of caesar
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To: Thunder90

Russia and China are behind this guy

Those whores of babylon would be behind hitler if Germany was sitting on huge oil fields. Wait a second, russia WAS behind hitler, until they got their a** attacked.
Stalin: "Hmmm, comrade. That little corporal deed something not goot. Tell americans we sorry."


82 posted on 02/11/2006 6:35:59 AM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when")
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To: Clemenza
Nah, General Galtieri was just a good Paisan who knew how to both break communist cells (and skulls) and stand up to the Brits for Argentine sovereignty.
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Oh, yeah, got his army's butt kicked, got a lot of "Paisan" boys killed for no good purpose, oh yeah that's standing up to the Brits.
He was a dictator, which means he was a pig, and his fate was entirely too good for him.
As for the Falklands, the people who actually live there want nothing to do with Argentina.
When that changes, then Argentina might have a prayer of getting the Falklands.
83 posted on 02/11/2006 7:38:01 AM PST by Cheburashka
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To: Dick Vomer

Great stories. Thanks!


84 posted on 02/11/2006 7:45:28 AM PST by vox_freedom (Fear no evils)
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To: bybybill

Hope our fingerprints are not on it.


85 posted on 02/11/2006 8:26:31 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: son of caesar

Well, you have a point.


86 posted on 02/11/2006 8:46:59 AM PST by SALChamps03
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To: Clemenza

"LAS MALVINAS SON ARGENTINAS!"



Bullfeathers. The UK owns the Falklands lock, stock, and barrel, and has since 1833. But if you want to argue that ancient titles to property should not be binding in 2006, then let's let the residents of the Falklands vote on it; I would bet you that the percentage of Falklanders who would vote to have the islands become part of Argentina would be less than 5%.

BTW, Venezuela has long claimed the western half of Guyana (formerly British Guiana) as its own, and the theory under which British 19th century claims to the Falklands were "illegitimate" would also hold that British claims over the western part of British Guiana (also claimed by Venezuela) were similarly "illegitimate," so Chavez knows that getting an international tribunal to rule in favor of the Argentines (if the Brits were dumb enough to agree to arbitration) would give him all the excuse he needs to take half of Guyana.


87 posted on 02/11/2006 10:28:42 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: Clemenza

Er... We kicked the living crap out of the Mau Mau in Kenya (though you're right about Rhodesia)


88 posted on 02/11/2006 10:40:19 AM PST by propertius
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To: Clemenza

trifle hysterical aren't we, old fruit?


89 posted on 02/11/2006 10:42:40 AM PST by propertius
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To: propertius

And yet another example from the "just give us a reason" department...


90 posted on 02/11/2006 10:43:56 AM PST by gman992
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To: gman992

I'm sorry -- I don't understand?


91 posted on 02/11/2006 10:48:36 AM PST by propertius
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To: Clemenza; Thunder90; Cacique

<< I hate Chavez, but even a broken clock is right twice a day. >>

Hate away, you're on a right track, there. But on this subject Chavez ain't no stopped clock and is as wrong around the clock as he is on every other topic.

Britain has effectively owned its Faulklands since the mid 1500s, more than 250 years before there was an Argentine. And, not that there's any effective doubt about that, Britain has absolutely owned them since 1690, 126 years before the Spanish lost control to its colonialists of the place they then and now call the Argentine.

The johnny-come-lately Argentines have no more claim to Britain's Faulkland Islands than they have to its Isle of Wight.

Or to New York's Coney Island. Or California's Catalina.


92 posted on 02/11/2006 11:39:41 AM PST by Brian Allen (How arrogant are we to believe our career political-power-lusting lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
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To: AmeriBrit

<< The UK and USA have the closest, strongest relationship of any two nations on this planet. >>

Nope.

Australia and the United States are much closer and Israel is a way better and more reliable ally than Britain.

And, insofar as anti-terrorism is concerned our government has an even closer relationship with that of France than with terrorist-appeasing and harboring Britain.


93 posted on 02/11/2006 11:45:45 AM PST by Brian Allen (How arrogant are we to believe our career political-power-lusting lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
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To: Thunder90

The indigenous people of the Falklands are those of British descent who colonized them in the 19th century. They were the first people there. The Argentines got their butts whipped in 1982 and it would happen again if there was another war today. Fighting people whose tradition is liberty and individual freedom are very, very hard to defeat. My own response to Chavez is to tell him to turn over large parts of his own country to the original inhabitants, sort of a STFU.


94 posted on 02/11/2006 11:56:38 AM PST by redpoll (redpoll)
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To: Brett66

Um, I don't think Venezuala can "take back" the Falklands.


95 posted on 02/11/2006 4:22:17 PM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K Virus -Only without the inconvenient deadline.)
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To: Brian Allen

Nope. Even Australian aircrew don't get to do exchange tours in the stealth world. UK aircrew have had pilots in the F-117 since the late 80's. The first RAF B-2 Spirit pilot is now flying them out of Whiteman AFB. Even the Israeli's don't get to do this!


96 posted on 02/12/2006 3:06:25 AM PST by Tommyjo
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To: Tommyjo

A little training in equipment your Europeon Neo-Soviet's socialistic offshore satellite state couldn't buy the paint for won't do your tallyhoing girlyboys any harm and you are, with a little help [And transport] from your friends and since we liberated it, garrisoning essentially-friendly Basra -- but:

Where were all y'all during Vietnam?

And where were the Australians?

Through your Euro-peon Neo-Soviet masters and coutesy of the effectively anti-American for-a-time European foreign relations Commissioner, Christopher "Hong Kong" Patten you fund and/or subsidise the mid-east's almost every enemy of America, Israel and freedom while, at home, your state abjectly appeases and harbors terrorists of every persuasion. And has for decades.

AND your slaveringly Arabist foreign office and foreign service and state propaganda organ [BBC] are both anti-American in the extreme.


97 posted on 02/12/2006 4:32:09 AM PST by Brian Allen (How arrogant are we to believe our career political-power-lusting lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
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To: Brian Allen

Bit of a hissy fit there Brian? LOL! Not just training, but combat capable. RAF pilot flew and led F-117s missions during Allied Force.


98 posted on 02/12/2006 5:27:54 AM PST by Tommyjo
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To: Tommyjo

<< Bit of a hissy fit there Brian? >>

<};^)~<


99 posted on 02/12/2006 5:32:07 AM PST by Brian Allen (How arrogant are we to believe our career political-power-lusting lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
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To: Brian Allen

Brian, Basra was liberated by UK forces. Were you under the impression that other Coaltion forces liberated it and handed it over to UK forces?


100 posted on 02/12/2006 5:43:57 AM PST by Tommyjo
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