"Man, you're hella-stupid!"
Posted on 02/06/2006 7:52:43 PM PST by ClassConscious
Edited on 02/07/2006 3:38:17 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
Earlier thread by this poster under another name before he was banned, linked above also:
Bye-bye Delay! So long crooks! Goodbye world, I'm gone by ZOT!
Posted on 01/08/2006 8:43:32 PM CST by SoLongCrooks
Yaa, you repukes are not doing so well, huh? Imagine, you repukes control the presidency, both houses of Congress, and appointed 7 of the 9 Supreme Court justices. Yet the Supreme Court thre out sodomy laws in all 50 states and recognized the right of government to seize land for any reason. And you couldn't pass your Social Security changes could you? Sorry, that was your last shot. Come November, we're going to start seeing more Democratic faces in the House. It's the end for you guys. You guys are celebrating when Bush's numbers go *up* to 45%. Then Faux News trumpets this like it's some kind of victory.
I should add I am not a Democrat, I am a communist. And I know one day the workers will control the means of production, and all the capitalist idle class parasites you guys love will be eliminated as a class. But I also recognize, like the CPUSA, sometimes you must enter a front with the liberals for tactical reasons. We had fun sticking it to the liberals with Nader and the Greens in 2000, 2002 and 2004, but this year we're switching gears. Evo Morales in Bolivia, Hugo Chavez in Venezuela, plus all are other Latin American comrades, and the Left Party in Germany, the Socialist Party in Spain pulling the troops out of Iraq. It's a come back for the workers of the world, BIG TIME. Sorry to all you capitalists and sycophants, or Jesus-believing loonies.
Oh yaa - Bye bye Tom Delay. We control nothing in the government, yet we still control so much! Gramsci was right to make a long march through the institutions. Too bad your shot at power amounted to so little! At least you got your estate tax cut...for a few years anyhow.
*******Beginning of new thread by the same Troll**************
The first thing I will say up front - I am a progressive, not a conservative. This message is about the freedom of Free Republic, versus the party line of Democratic Underground.
If you look at Democratic Underground's rules ( http://www.democraticunderground.com/forums/rules_detailed.html ), one is "Democratic Underground may not be used for political, partisan, or advocacy activity by supporters of any political party or candidate other than the Democratic Party or Democratic candidates." Note, this doesn't say Republicans, this doesn't say "progressive candidates", it says Democratic candidates, period. Now let's compare this to Free Republic's posting guidelines ( http://www.freerepublic.com/help.htm ) - "Broadly stated, the goals of this site are to further conservatism, expose political corruption, and recover a truly constitutional form of government." No mention of the Republican Party. No jihad against you if you make up your mind to vote for Pertouka. No "party line" from the Republican leadership. Significantly, even though DU and FR are compared often, that is a (unofficial) Democratic Party site, you are a conservative site.
I just made two posts saying positive things about the Green party, talking about how people like Clinton and Kerry do not represent working class people and so forth. This was after 200+ posts there by me on other topics. Both of my threads were locked and I was directed to the above mentioned rules, which say those who don't follow the Democratic Party line are not welcome. I then posted a thread saying Free Republic had more freedom of expression than Democratic Underground, and that that was a shame. That was erased.
While my discussion of this was banned on DU, I don't think it will be banned here. I can't believe I am more free to discuss my support of the Greens, or talk about freedom of political discussion on Free Republic than Democratic Underground. And as I said before, the fact that you are a conservative site, not a official or unofficial Republican Party site is probably due to this. The party that runs the White House, Congress and 7 of 9 Supreme Court seats allows people to support Pertouka over Bush on its main political board. The main discussion board for people of the progressive movement declares all must follow the Democratic Party line, and any other discussion is locked and erased. I've even seen people banned before.
This is not going to make me a conservative or Republican. I am a working class person and hate capitalists. Note, I hate capitalists, not conservatives. I know plenty of conservatives, but am not a regular at the mansions of wealthy heirs. Anyhow, my point is this will not make me like capitalism any more, but I am very fed up with the Democrats and places like DU. They restrict freedom, make people follow a party line - and lose. You allow discussion, allow people to choose between Pertouka, Bush and whatnot - and win. Very sad.
I should close this by saying I agree with nothing the Republicans or conservatives are for - except one thing. I am a complete supporter of the Second Amendment. I have been on the left for a long time and the scariest people around are the gun control people. Not the soccer moms who the leaders of gun control people try to appeal to, but the leaders themselves, the people who want more and more gun control. I have heard people like this talk about how they are scared that people up in Appalachia and in the South have so many guns. I am always puzzled like this. For myself, I feel pretty SAFE knowing people in Appalachia, the South and so forth have guns. Why would someone be scared that the working people in rural areas have rifles, shotguns and so forth? The people who say this usually aren't working class people, they are usually liberal yuppie types. So all you second amendment supporters - you're more right than you know, if you heard how these people talk, you'd be more freaked out by all this gun control stuff than you probably already are. The gun control people are the creepiest, scariest people on the left and in the Democratic party. Meaning not the soccer moms and so forth they try to appeal to, but the people masterminding the fight on that. In fact, if you look at DU polls - many many DUers are more pro-2nd amendment than pro-gun control. So who are these gun control people? So keep fighting on this, at least one party supports the 2nd Amendment. Other than this, I don't agree with conservatives or Republicans on anything, especially in terms of the working class. Hopefully this post will shame some DU admin into allowing more freedom of expression for progressives there. You guys can discuss problems in the conservative movement while we can't - we're only allowed to praise the Democratic party, otherwise, hit the road. I hope I shame some DU admin into making changes with this, but I doubt I will.
If you hate capitalists, who has given you a job?
I'll grant you, as America's superior model is only as good as the people in it are moral, Capitalism only works when men operating it are moral. The lack of morality and the worship of $$$ is not properly punished by the laws of Capitalism when people in both management and the working class engage in relativism out of purely selfish interests.
tek, tsk, tsk...is that the best you can do? LOL
Sorry, the image made the joke. I didn't know it would get nuked.
What about Commies that could be awakening to a little truth? Jesus didn't die for the righteous, ya know. I say trust but verify. And you know how much you're loved darling. ;)
I've fought stinking Commies a long time and hate them; truly hate them.
" I don't think it had sinked in nationwide though"
"Man, you're hella-stupid!"
Not to mention their potty mouths :)
That's true -- FR is pretty much G-rated. Not so at DU.
PS :)
What you've posted about "progressives" squelching freedom is not an accident: you need to read The Road to Serfdom by F.A. Hayek, in which he explains why this is inevitably so. Your class consciousness--a resentment fostered by modern "liberlism"--has blinded you to the fact that no freedom is actually possible without private property, and systems where economic decisions are made in places other than free markets always lead to totalitarianism. It is inescapable because the nature of directing economic decisions by government forces the dictation of political, and ultimately personal decisions. Read Hayek. He is the foundation of both modern conservatism and a most of modern libertarian thought as well.
As a former shop steward, business agent, and labor organizer who came over from the Dark Side thirty years ago, I can confidently tell you that nearly everything you now believe is wrong, and the truth will set you free. The fact that you understand the Second Amendment recognizes an important liberty--the right absolutely to defend yourself-- is a start.
Now READ HAYEK. You have nothing to lose but your chains.
Ping
Now, now, ClassConscious is the first and only left-off-center type I've ever seen on FR with good manners and something nice to say about FR. It doesn't do to pick on his grammar.
His original post explained why he didn't feel comfortable at DU.
They're getting better. Instead of posting and running, this one throws out a comment every hundred posts or so.
bump
I've noticed this "reverse snobbery" many times. The people who view themselves as "oppressed" by rich people have much more irrational hatred for those rich people than the rich hate the poor.
You sound like a reasonable guy. I don't have all that much money, but please look at yourself in the mirror and remind yourself that you have a great deal of ability to change your economic station in life. If you really want to be rich, then you can be, if you have even modest abilities.
Unless you are genuinely of "less ability", a true minority, then you can be as rich, or as poor, as you choose. And since you have a choice in the manner, there's no reason for hatred of the rich. They didn't inflict you to your state, you put yourself there.
If you disagree, then make your case here. That's what FR is for.
Thanks for posting on FR. Come back again.
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