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First smokes, now Cokes
LA Times ^ | 2/3/6 | Walter Olson

Posted on 02/03/2006 7:03:12 AM PST by ZGuy

GET READY for the next mass-tort crusade: protecting our kids from the ravages of Big Cola. According to reports, a group of lawyers is gearing up to file lawsuits that will seek to blame Coke, Pepsi and others for obesity, tooth decay and other childhood health ailments. An article in the Boston Globe Magazine has called it part of a "national legal movement to make soft drinks the next tobacco." Instead of tar and nicotine, we'll be hearing about corn sweeteners and caffeine; maybe Dr. Pepper can stand in as the new Joe Camel.

Ridiculous? More like inevitable. For some time, a noisy campaign has been underway to portray the food and beverage industry as the villain in the nation's ongoing battle with the waistline. Without the snack hucksters' machinations, it seems, we'd all eat raw bell peppers and be reed thin.

Backed by "progressive" foundations, nutrition advocates are demanding a national obesity policy aimed at changing our collective diet, by force of law if necessary — or quite possibly by force of litigation. As one advocate, Michael Jacobson of the Center for Science in the Public Interest, put it: "If someone is saying that a 64-ounce soda at 7-Eleven contributed to obesity, that person should have his day in court."

That brings us to Northeastern University law professor and associate dean Richard Daynard, point man in the forthcoming courtroom onslaught against fizzy drinks. Long quoted in the media as a cheerleader for tobacco lawsuits, Daynard has now set out to assemble a legal strike force to file obesity actions. He wants to duplicate the success of the tobacco campaign, whose strategies included invoking "the children" and launching scores of suits on novel legal theories in hopes that one would stick.

WALTER OLSON is senior fellow of the Manhattan Institute.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: layoffmycoke; libertarians; nannystate; pufflist; tortreformnow
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To: sittnick
Drink it unsweetened with lemon instead of soda. Burger King iced tea is rancid

So is unsweetened tea of any source, LOL! Blackbird.

141 posted on 02/03/2006 1:44:03 PM PST by BlackbirdSST (Diapers, like Politicians, need regular changing for the same reason!)
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To: Windsong
Do you allow your kids around automobiles?

Much more dangerous than tobacco smoke, and PROVEN to be so (unlike tobacco smoke).

142 posted on 02/03/2006 1:45:44 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: Windsong

Keep your kids off of property where the owner of the premisis allows smoking and they won't be exposed to it. Is that so hard? Now, quit giving them all that sugar so I don't have to supplement your income with my tax dollars.

See how easy it is to come up with excuses to justify meddling in other people's lives?


143 posted on 02/03/2006 2:03:32 PM PST by CSM (Lick a finger, politicize the wind, and place the finger into the wind. - EGPWS, 1/26/2006)
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To: ZGuy

I'm hoping all of these crap lawsuits will be stopped. How pathtic to sue someone else for your choices and what you put into your mouth.

I'm drinking a Cherry Coke and eating venison tacos right now mmm.. My Cherry Coke is a treat, I love em.


144 posted on 02/03/2006 2:05:49 PM PST by Trillian
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To: TAdams8591

And thanks for adding so much to the discourse.

Simple statement: We make choices. We should be held responsible for those choices.

And if it's children who are making bad decisions, then their parents and guardians that should be held responsible. Otherwise once all the companies that can be sued, have been sued, children will begin to sue their parents.

Mark


145 posted on 02/03/2006 2:06:07 PM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: SheLion

Thanks for the ping!


146 posted on 02/03/2006 2:35:35 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: MarkL
I'm more concerned about things like the kind of people children are involved with, whether or not they behave, lie, steal, do drugs, have sex, drink alcohol, do well in school, believe in God, and whether they are being raised to be good people.

Comparatively, this is a NON-issue. Most good parents permit sweets in moderation.

147 posted on 02/03/2006 2:43:20 PM PST by TAdams8591 (The first amendment does NOT protect vulgar and obscene speech.)
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To: HungarianGypsy

I had an interesting discussion with the head of the peanut marketing board in Georgia once. I had asked him about peanut allergies and what impact this issue had on the peanut business. He told me that they are putting a pile of money into developing a 'safe' allergy free peanut and hoped to have it out in a few years (it was a year or two ago when I met him). Anyway, it occurs to me that they will have it out by about the same time that places like our school board have declared that all nuts should be banned.


148 posted on 02/03/2006 2:59:26 PM PST by Asfarastheeastisfromthewest...
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

If kids went out and ran and played like they did before video games, it would also help.




BINGO!! THAT'S the problem. We've turned into a nation of paper-pushers and computers. Hell, I remember when they bitched about TV when it first started to become popular..little did they know.


149 posted on 02/03/2006 3:38:06 PM PST by The Foolkiller (It is not enough today for the deviant to be normalized. The normal must be found to be deviant.)
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To: sittnick

The Mexican Coca-Cola with real cane sugar is also much better than the corn syrup version.




I remember back in the 80's when I went to Mexico (for the last time)with a friend I worked with on vacation. we were having a coke when he commented-"You know...it's sad, Dave...we invented this stuff, and now you have to go to a foreign country to get a bottle of it that still tastes like it used to when we were kids."


150 posted on 02/03/2006 3:46:24 PM PST by The Foolkiller (It is not enough today for the deviant to be normalized. The normal must be found to be deviant.)
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To: ZGuy

So I can get $$$$$$ because of my addition to Coke? I'm also addicted to breathing...


151 posted on 02/03/2006 3:51:56 PM PST by EverOnward (help support our hero soldiers at anysoldier.com)
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To: nuke rocketeer

Especially when you pour home made black powder, gasoline, fertilizer and diesel down ground squirrel holes and light it! Great fun for 12 yr olds with more brains than common sense. Sometimes I wonder how I survived early adolescence.




I was lazy-I just used M-80's. In a buried jar filled with dirt & rocks.


152 posted on 02/03/2006 3:56:24 PM PST by The Foolkiller (It is not enough today for the deviant to be normalized. The normal must be found to be deviant.)
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To: Windsong

You can't die from drinking Coke.




Oh?


153 posted on 02/03/2006 3:59:17 PM PST by The Foolkiller (It is not enough today for the deviant to be normalized. The normal must be found to be deviant.)
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To: DakotaRed

Correct-but it WON'T take 30 years. Try 5-6. Now that they've learned the ropes with smokers, it'll all move much faster now.


154 posted on 02/03/2006 4:04:18 PM PST by The Foolkiller (It is not enough today for the deviant to be normalized. The normal must be found to be deviant.)
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To: Asfarastheeastisfromthewest...
places like our school board have declared that all nuts should be banned.

School boards dismantling themselves. Cool!

155 posted on 02/03/2006 4:33:41 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: SheLion; Just another Joe; freepatriot32

Good gravy these imbeciles are probably salivating over us today........we've done everything they are trying to get people to stop doing through their litigation and laws.

Drove my husband's pickup instead of my more gas efficient compact into 3 different states today, had burgers and fries and sodas from McDonald's (we were in Delaware and we DO NOT eat in restaurants there in the winter), we then purchased alcoholic beverages and put more gas in the truck, allowed someone else to pick our child up from school and keep her for several hours so that we were able to partake in some adult beverages with friends while smoking cigars and cigarettes in a private business, ate salty pretzels dipped in mustard, fried chicken livers, and fried tortillas........

I'm sure I did some other things that will drive the nannies bonkers, but I want a beer and I left my cigarettes out in the truck...........


156 posted on 02/03/2006 5:21:56 PM PST by Gabz
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To: The Foolkiller; Windsong
Is Coke really bad for you, if so what are the ingredients that make it?

Coca-Cola is a cola drink, similar to others in this category. Cola drinks have 3 ingredients that possibly be harmful to health: 1. Sweeteners. Sugar in soft drinks (including non-cola drinks) increases the possibility of dental caries ("cavities").

Non-nutritive sweeteners such as saccharin and aspartame also have undesirable side-effects in specific population segments. Nutritive sweeteners are a significant source of calories in the diet (about 250 per serving of a soft drink). 2. Caffein.

This "upper" is added specifically to cola drinks as a class. It is a diuretic and can elevate blood pressure. It has been suggested as connected to development of rheumatoid arthritis. 3. Phosphoric acid.

This acid is typically only used in cola drinks, which are very acidic (low pH) compared to other soft drinks. This can increase the rate of enamel loss from teeth. Phosphates in general are a nutritional problem when ingested in volume without corresponding calcium.

 This results in decalcification of bone tissue, accelerating osteoporosis in the aged. The example of Coke removing tarnish from a penny is irrelevant to health issues. Water and salt will cause iron to rust away, but they're both essential to life. Your stomach acid is much stronger than that in Coke.

By the way, I've heard a microbiologist say he used to drink a Coke quickly after accidentally sucking up diluent through a pipet. He claimed the Coke was protective against the bacteria. I don't think I accept this argument, but it shows the "flip-side" of the penny example.

Here are my recommendations based on a rational assessment of the above: 1. Soft drinks and coffee should be ingested in moderation. Avoid more than 4 servings a day. 2. If you are at risk for osteoporosis, avoid soft drinks with phosphoric acid (e.g., colas). 3. Drinking the diet form of soft drinks can eliminate 1000 calories or more per day from the diet and will reduce the incidence of sugar-related dental caries.

157 posted on 02/03/2006 5:49:29 PM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: ZGuy

And you'll have home-brew basement cola makers a la marijuana grow ops.


158 posted on 02/03/2006 6:51:01 PM PST by rasblue (Everyone has their price)
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To: Gabz
Dang!

I'll pop for gas if I get to go along on the next road trip.

159 posted on 02/03/2006 7:16:42 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: Gabz

Why would having a beer and leaving your cigarettes in the truck leave the nannies bonkers? I dont understand?


160 posted on 02/03/2006 7:27:21 PM PST by celestine phophesy
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