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Scientists moot gravity-busting hyperdrive Mars in three hours - theoretically
The Register ^ | Friday 6th January 2006 15:03 GMT | Lester Haines

Posted on 02/01/2006 7:35:54 PM PST by ckilmer

Edited on 02/01/2006 7:38:00 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Scientists moot gravity-busting hyperdrive Mars in three hours - theoretically By Lester Haines Published Friday 6th January 2006 15:03 GMT Get breaking Reg news straight to your desktop - click here to find out how

The US military is considering testing the principle behind a type of space drive which holds the promise of reaching Mars in just three hours. The problem is, as New Scientist explains, it's entirely theoretical and many physicists admit they don't understand the science behind it.

Nonetheless, the so-called "hyperdrive" concept won last year's American Institute of Aeronautics & Astronautics award for the best nuclear and future flight paper. Among its defenders is aerospace engineer Pavlos Mikellides, from the Arizona State University in Tempe. Mikellides, who reviewed the winning paper, said: "Even though such features have been explored before, this particular approach is quite unique."

The basic concept is this: according to the paper's authors - Jochem Häuser, a physicist and professor of computer science at the University of Applied Sciences in Salzgitter and Walter Dröscher, a retired Austrian patent officer - if you put a huge rotating ring above a superconducting coil and pump enough current through the coil, the resulting large magnetic field will "reduce the gravitational pull on the ring to the point where it floats free".

The origins of this "repulsive anti-gravity force" and the hyperdrive it might power lie in the work of German scientist Burkhard Heim, who - as part of his attempts to reconcile quantum mechanics and Einstein's general theory of relativity - formulated a theoretical six-dimensioned universe by bolting on two new sub-dimensions to Einstein's generally-accepted four (three space, one time).

As New Scientist explains, Heim's two extra dimensions allowed him to couple together gravity and electromagnetism, and permits conversion of electromagnetic energy into gravitational and vice-versa - something not possible according to Einstein's four dimensions, because "you cannot change the strength of gravity simply by cranking up the electromagnetic field".

Heim, then, proposed that "a rotating magnetic field could reduce the influence of gravity on a spacecraft enough for it to take off" - an idea which caught the eye of Wernher von Braun when it was first proposed in 1959 and the rocket scientist was working on the US's Saturn launch vehicle.

After the initial excitement died down, however, Heim moved on to other projects and his hyperdrive theory slowly gathered dust until the arrival of Walter Dröscher in 1980. Dröscher expanded on Heim's work, in the process reactivating two further dimensions the latter had originally discarded. Thus "Heim-Dröscher space" was born - an eight-dimensional concept of which Dröscher says: "If Heim's picture is to make sense, we are forced to postulate two more fundamental forces."

The said extra forces are: "A repulsive anti-gravity similar to the dark energy that appears to be causing the universe's expansion to accelerate"; and a second resulting from the "interaction of Heim's fifth and sixth dimensions and the extra dimensions that Dröscher introduced". Crucially, it "produces pairs of 'gravitophotons' - particles that mediate the interconversion of electromagnetic and gravitational energy".

The groundwork done, Dröscher then teamed up with Häuser to produce the award-winning "Guidelines For a Space Propulsion Device Based on Heim's Quantum Theory."

So far so good - in theory. However, as NS notes: "The majority of physicists have never heard of Heim theory, and most of those contacted by New Scientist said they couldn't make sense of Dröscher and Häuser's description of the theory behind their proposed experiment."

Furthermore, Dröscher and Häuser's proposed practical experiment to prove their theory requires "a magnetic coil several metres in diameter capable of sustaining an enormous current density" - something which the majority of engineers say is "not feasible with existing materials and technology".*

So, Mars in three hours? As NS puts it: "Dröscher is hazy about the details", but "suggests that a spacecraft fitted with a coil and ring could be propelled into a multidimensional hyperspace" where "the constants of nature could be different, and even the speed of light could be several times faster than we experience". Then, he says, a quick three-hour jaunt to Mars would indeed be on the cards. ® Bootnote

*Roger Lenard, a space propulsion researcher at Sandia National Laboratories in New Mexico does think it might be possible, though, using an X-ray generator called the Z machine which "could probably generate the necessary field intensities and gradients".


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: aliens; aliensiseenem; antigravity; artbell; gravity; hyperdrive; mars; zmachine
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To: ckilmer

does this mean we stop blaming Bush for our addiction to oil.....and blame our addiction on gravity......

we can always blame Bush for gravity......


41 posted on 02/01/2006 8:14:59 PM PST by eeevil conservative
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To: JustDoItAlways

one hell of a right turn getting past the asteroid belt


42 posted on 02/01/2006 8:16:21 PM PST by Michigan Bowhunter (What quantifies this as an assault rifle?)
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To: FreedomNeocon
it would make sense that two separate yet equal magnetic fields in close proximity to one another would possibly fold time and space. maybe?!?
43 posted on 02/01/2006 8:18:52 PM PST by no-to-illegals
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To: ckilmer; All

The grays already gave us this technology 40 years ago....


44 posted on 02/01/2006 8:21:03 PM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: ckilmer
ALTERNATE DRIVE:

http://www.butteredcat.co.uk/theory.php

http://www.butteredcat.co.uk/images/cat1.jpg

THE THEORY:

Basically: Cats always land on their feet, toast always falls butter side down. What happens when you attach a piece of buttered toast to the back of a cat and then drop it?

The most common conclusion is that the cat/toast amalgam will fall to within a few inches of the floor, and then the speed of decent will decrease, as the two forces try to out-strain each other. This will (theoretically) cause hovering. In addition, as the cat struggles to get its feet to the floor, spinning may occur.
45 posted on 02/01/2006 8:23:07 PM PST by Keli Kilohana (Editor, ZARR CHASM CHRONICAL [sic], Sore, WV)
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To: taxed2death
and I've been wracking my brain attempting to figure out this problem...all my life

what was that Dean yelled again....? AHHHAAHHHARRRHJAKC
46 posted on 02/01/2006 8:24:48 PM PST by no-to-illegals
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To: ckilmer

bump


47 posted on 02/01/2006 8:39:14 PM PST by lesser_satan
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To: no-to-illegals
it would make sense that two separate yet equal magnetic fields

The Supreme Court rejected the notion of separate but equal in Brown vs the Board of Education of Topeka.

48 posted on 02/01/2006 8:42:37 PM PST by JohnnyZ (Happy New Year! Breed like dogs!)
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To: taxed2death
The grays already gave us this technology 40 years ago....

I resemble that remark!

(except that you spelled it wrong...)

49 posted on 02/01/2006 8:56:03 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: billorites

The matter and anti matter engines can't take it anymore. You must switch over to impulse power, captain!!!


50 posted on 02/01/2006 9:02:33 PM PST by Fee (`+Great powers never let minor allies dictate who, where and when they must fight.)
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To: ckilmer
The problem is, as New Scientist explains, it's entirely theoretical and many physicists admit they don't understand the science behind it.

Just like anything else, you never know until you try it.

51 posted on 02/01/2006 9:05:08 PM PST by Paul_Denton (Every single troll is now an enemy of the Republic!)
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To: no-to-illegals

Would the maximum speed be relatively small so that acceleation would not be great?


52 posted on 02/01/2006 9:05:23 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: FreedomNeocon

53 posted on 02/01/2006 9:12:30 PM PST by kAcknor (Don't flatter yourself.... It is a gun in my pocket.)
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To: ckilmer
Mars in three hours

This one can go to Neptune in 6 minutes :)

54 posted on 02/01/2006 9:12:33 PM PST by demlosers (Kerry: "Impeach Bush, filibuster Alito, withdraw from Iraq, send U235 to Iran, elect me President!")
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To: demlosers
This one can go to Neptune in 6 minutes :)

And back.

55 posted on 02/01/2006 9:16:25 PM PST by demlosers (Kerry: "Impeach Bush, filibuster Alito, withdraw from Iraq, send U235 to Iran, elect me President!")
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To: Paul_Denton; KevinDavis

Space ping!


56 posted on 02/01/2006 9:17:31 PM PST by demlosers (Kerry: "Impeach Bush, filibuster Alito, withdraw from Iraq, send U235 to Iran, elect me President!")
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To: ckilmer

Right direction?, feasible?, possible? Who can be sure, but one thing that it has going for it is that every detailed description of "documented" UFO flight observations have described flight characteristics that appear to defy gravity. And, if there is any actual merit to those documented observations, then a science that posits gravity defying propulsion may be on the right track.


57 posted on 02/01/2006 9:43:56 PM PST by Wuli
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To: Steveone

Actually at the speed of light you would travel to Mars in 4 min and 28 sec. This device would travel at .019 times the speed of light. I'd take it.


58 posted on 02/01/2006 9:50:53 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: ckilmer

hmmmm... "Ludicrous Speed" ..... who woulda thunk it.


59 posted on 02/01/2006 9:52:56 PM PST by OkiMusashi (Beware the fury of a patient man. --- John Dryden)
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To: ckilmer
Imagine the aliens we would meet....


60 posted on 02/01/2006 10:55:15 PM PST by Dallas59 ((“You love life, while we love death"( Al-Qaeda & Democratic Party))
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