Libertarian ping.To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message hereFor the life of me I can't think of any reason to tell the kid to stand up other than to shoot him.
I mean what sort of police procedure has you telling a suspect to get up off the ground where he is prone?
I smell a massive lawsuit.
It's exactly why he ordered the kid to get up - so he could shoot him. That's one "police officer" deserving to get the living $h1t beat out of him. I hope the airman's buddies find the ba$tard and lay him up for a good long time.
FBI involved now:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1569445/posts
The irony of this is that the kid probably had designs on becoming a cop - that is what any of my former MP friends did.
Wonder if he still wants to - maybe even more. At least he won't have to work overtime.
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Went to see the video, I have all of the above, but don't want to ever open the software. Silly me. :-)
ping for later...
Where "multicultural gun control" becomes ni&&er control, courtesy of California democrats.
Prosecutors encourage such thuggishness. Our legal system promotes murder by lawyers and cops. THEY CAN DO ANYTHING THEY WANT AND COVER IT UP, UNLESS LUCKY TO HAVE A VIDEO OF YOU LIKE IN THIS CASE
Libertarian ping.To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here"As he rises, at least four shots are fired..."
I counted three.
The only reason to have him stand would be to search.....If there is a high risk threat, and probable cause, you wait for backup (depending on the location and situation), then command the suspect to lie prone for a high risk search. If it's a low risk situation, and you decide to search, then he has to stand for a cursory search or for a field interview.
I can't figure for the life of me unless he intended on shooting the person why ask him to stand then shoot.
If the officer responded to a 911 call from a third party, then the officer's adrenalin will be pumping.....I had that happen to me....:). I was parked across from a hotel in another parking lot. I was with a "friend", we were fogging the windows..:) and the asshole at the hotel (I figure), called a 911. I didn't know that at the time. The big big policeman ordered me out of the car, step away, blah blah blah.....with his pistol (15 rounds) drawn. His search technique was the worse I've seen...I actually called the office the next day and complained that his technique was hazardous. I taught searching techniques to cops and security personnel....With a 911, he should of had me prone or against the car....he just reached over and patted my pockets within 1 foot.....
Anyway, if the cop in the video approached with his weapon drawn, then he must have felt threatened...then you tell the suspect to go prone until backup arrives. If the weapon was not drawn, then something of a threat must trigger the officer to exit the zone while drawing his weapon.......giving commands for the suspect not to move or go prone....not just shoot.....
This is a strange case.......a study of the training system is also in order....
I watched the video.....cops are pumped after a high speed chase and some may get wacked out....I think he fired in anger because of the chase......He asked him to move, giving some justification for "I thought he was going for a weapon"......one does have to be there, as we are sideline quarterbacks.......but it doesn't look good for the cop....bad shoot.
Jose Ruiz, the Chino man who videotaped the incident, said he is also disturbed by what he saw Sunday night. He ran outside his home with a video camera with the intent of filming the aftermath of a car crash late Sunday. What unfolded instead is something he says has kept him awake and uneasy.
"I've never seen that in my life. I haven't slept in more than two days. My daughter hasn't gone to school in two days. I haven't gone to work in two days," he said. Ruiz played a copy of the video tape to reporters at his Chino home Tuesday.
The tape, which is dark and only shows a silhouette of the deputy and Carrion on the ground, does capture some dialogue between Carrion and the deputy. "He said, 'I'm in the military. Believe me, I don't have a gun,' " Ruiz recalled him saying. The deputy, with his gun drawn, said, "All right, get up, get up."
As the man began to rise with his back facing the deputy, the deputy fired three shots. The man fell back to the ground and began screaming in pain. The deputy then called on his radio, "Shots fired, shots fired."
Ruiz said he immediately turned a tape over to the Sheriff's Department after the incident, but he has retained an attorney because of incidents that have happened since then. Luis Carrillo, a South Pasadena attorney, said he's helping Ruiz to make sure his rights are not violated. Carrillo said over a 12-hour period after the video tape was handed over to deputies, Ruiz was pulled over three times by officers. "His whole vehicle gets searched. It was totally unnecessary," Carrillo said. Staff writer Wendy Leung contributed to this story.
Where is the video link?
Uh yeah, and all the other witnesses hearing the officer yelling get on the ground...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1569475/posts?page=44#44
It's possible the cop thought the airman was about to pull a gun.
Not if you listen to the deputy's words. This was simply
Adrenalin pumped aggression. He told the Sr. Airman
to get up and then shot him and said "you don't get up"
as if it had been a taunt.
As if in his Adrenalin pumped mind he was playing a TV Cop
taunt saying, "GET UP! - GET UP! - but neglected to say,
"I dare you" as he was more than likely thinking.
Warrior Cops - The Ominous Growth of Paramilitarism in American Police Departments One of the most alarming side effects of the federal government’s war on drugs is
the militarization of law enforcement in America. There are two aspects to the
militarization phenomenon. First, the American tradition of civil-military separation
is breaking down as Congress assigns more and more law enforcement responsibilities
to the armed forces. Second, state and local police officers are increasingly emulating
the war-fighting tactics of soldiers. Most Americans are unaware of the militarization
phenomenon simply because it has been creeping along imperceptibly for many years.
The problem is that the mindset of the soldier is simply not appropriate for the civilian
police officer. Police officers confront not an “enemy” but individuals who are protected
by the Bill of Rights. Confusing the police function with the military function can lead to
dangerous and unintended consequences—such as unnecessary shootings and killings.
There is also a witness, a neighbor who had come out of the house and heard the deputy tell the soldier to get up. This is terrible.
I can promise you there will be some of the boot-int-the-face crowd that will defend this and dispute any accusation of wrongdoing.
With no video, the soldier would have little legal recourse.