Posted on 02/01/2006 8:26:30 AM PST by Smogger
CHINO, Calif. - A videotape released Tuesday shows a sheriff’s deputy shooting an unarmed Air Force policeman who recently returned from Iraq as he appeared to obey an order to get up off the ground.
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'Get up' Carrion is heard telling the officer he is unarmed and is in the military.
At one point, a voice is heard saying several times: “Get up.”
Carrion says: “I’m gonna get up.” As he rises, at least four shots are fired and Carrion collapses, crying out in pain.
“Shots fired! Shots fired!” someone shouts.
In a telephone interview conducted in Spanish, Valdez said after the shooting, Carrion asks the deputy, “Why did you shoot me if you told me to stand up?” That alleged exchange cannot be heard on the video.
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It looks like the dept knows this was a bad shoot.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1569475/posts?page=44#44
It's possible the cop thought the airman was about to pull a gun.
Not if you listen to the deputy's words. This was simply
Adrenalin pumped aggression. He told the Sr. Airman
to get up and then shot him and said "you don't get up"
as if it had been a taunt.
As if in his Adrenalin pumped mind he was playing a TV Cop
taunt saying, "GET UP! - GET UP! - but neglected to say,
"I dare you" as he was more than likely thinking.
Warrior Cops - The Ominous Growth of Paramilitarism in American Police Departments One of the most alarming side effects of the federal government’s war on drugs is
the militarization of law enforcement in America. There are two aspects to the
militarization phenomenon. First, the American tradition of civil-military separation
is breaking down as Congress assigns more and more law enforcement responsibilities
to the armed forces. Second, state and local police officers are increasingly emulating
the war-fighting tactics of soldiers. Most Americans are unaware of the militarization
phenomenon simply because it has been creeping along imperceptibly for many years.
The problem is that the mindset of the soldier is simply not appropriate for the civilian
police officer. Police officers confront not an “enemy” but individuals who are protected
by the Bill of Rights. Confusing the police function with the military function can lead to
dangerous and unintended consequences—such as unnecessary shootings and killings.
I had another one tell me that my drivers' license wasn't legal because I'd gotten married, gone on my honeymoon for a week, been home 2 days and still hadn't had a chance to go down to the SS office or the DPS to change my name and get a new driver's license. Without my bringing up anything about me being married or not, he looked at my license asked me, "Is this your married name?" When I replied "No...I haven't changed it legally yet." He said, "Well, if you're married, then this license isn't accurate." I repeated to him that the name on the license was still my legal name because I hadn't had a chance to change it legally yet. He repeated, "Your license isn't accurate if it's still got your maiden name."
At that point, I just shut-up.
As I posted on another thread, this cop in Chino is going to make the job harder for GOOD cops everywhere.
The cop deserves a fair trial and a fast hanging.
"I taught my daughters never pull over for blue lights at night until you are in a safe enviroment near others. Use the flashers."
Having them turn on the inside dome light is a good idea if they aren't going to stop immediately.
Yea that works also. I do remember one rather odd chase. A woman was handcuffed and had escaped a cop on a DUI arrest. She got back in her Mercedes and drove around for about 30-45 minutes hand cuffed. Her maximum speed was about 50 MPH on a long straight away. Worse one I heard of recently was a lady drove through 3 counties in excess of 100 MPH on the wrong side of the interstate. Not a easy task in East Tennessee even driving in the right direction.
I won't argue law points with an officer but I will demand respect and sane behavior. You would be surprised what mentioning that you are willing to file a written complaint does to their attitude. They know that those sargents stripes or LT bars have just gone bye bye.
I've only done it once and had my attorney with me. The Chief came down to see if he could talk me out of it. I made a deal with him that I would withdraw it in one year if there wasn't any other reports filed on the officer.
One year and one day later I went in and wrote out the form to officially withdraw it after verifying that his record had stayed clean.
I don't see any basis for that unless you can find some kind of trend beyond what's on this tape.
Warrior Cops - The Ominous Growth of Paramilitarism in American Police Departments
One of the most alarming side effects of the federal government’s war on drugs is
the militarization of law enforcement in America. There are two aspects to the
militarization phenomenon. First, the American tradition of civil-military separation
is breaking down as Congress assigns more and more law enforcement responsibilities
to the armed forces. Second, state and local police officers are increasingly emulating
the war-fighting tactics of soldiers. Most Americans are unaware of the militarization
phenomenon simply because it has been creeping along imperceptibly for many years.
The problem is that the mindset of the soldier is simply not appropriate for the civilian
police officer. Police officers confront not an “enemy” but individuals who are protected
by the Bill of Rights. Confusing the police function with the military function can lead to
dangerous and unintended consequences—such as unnecessary shootings and killings.
About 13 years ago I was on a busy road and got in a wrong turn lane that would have put me on an interstate. I looked at the traffic and it was clear so I signaled and pulled back out to the next block. A city cop pulled me over and asked what I was doing and I told him.
Technically I had not broken any laws but it was risky move had traffic been coming. Had traffic been coming I wouldn't have tried it I told him. He said well you know what you did was dangerous so I'll tell you what I'm gonna do. All of the sudden in a Gomer Pyle voice he said fer shame fer shame fer shame laughing and said now get out of here. A cop who got his point across and we both had a good laugh.
He sounds like most of the officers I know. Easy going but knows when to be tough.
I've seen the tape about five times today and it gets worse every time I see it. Almost wish about 5 of the guys from Fort Lewis would go down there and have a conversation with his rookie ass.
I wonder how this could affect law enforcement in general? For every time one of these loony tune dudes lights a fire, what does that mean for another fellow on his squad who IS a good cop and pulls somebody over? Is he more likely to get blown away simply because the civilian now is scared of the cops?
Is the civilian rightly scared of the cops?
Is it time to shoot back?
The most ironic part is that the fellow who got shot is Armed Forces Airman, who had survived Iraq, only to get dusted when he gets home.
We, as a nation, cannot tolerate this at all. We, as a people, cannot live with this seige mentality.
We, as adults, must expect, no, DEMAND, responsible behavior from those who work for us.
Oh, and btw, they said on the news tonight the cop is on "paid administrative leave" now.
He oughta be getting his paid leave earning .15 an hour making plates in San Quentin, as far as I'm concerned.
Airman with an LE or SP badge. Therefore he also knows procedure.
There is also a witness, a neighbor who had come out of the house and heard the deputy tell the soldier to get up. This is terrible.
The cop needs to be in jail. I am very pro cop but what he did was attempted murder and i'm disgusted that anyone on here is trying to justify it. The sadistic bastard deserves a cell, not a badge.
I have viewed many threads where the police were unjustly criticized, which shocks me, given that this is a conservative web site. However, even without seeing the video, if it is as described, this particular officer was dead wrong, and should not only be fired, but prosecuted.
Four shots fired? At close range?
Ridiculous..........
Take a look for yourself.
http://www.two--four.net/weblog.php?id=P2116
He should rot in jail.
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